House of Lords an anachronism?

[Rincewind]

I read today that one of theTory MP's made into a peer claimed several thousands of taxpayers money for a moat. I wonder if there are any fish in it.

[davieG]

I had to look up anachronism.

Couldn't you just have said "past it"

I could have but I thought it fitted better with the subject matter.

 

FoxesTalk you learn something every day.

[Mike Oxlong]

I could have but I thought it fitted better with the subject matter.

 

FoxesTalk you learn something every day.

Always a pretty rotten institution.

Previously about "breeding"

Now about cronyism.

[Carl the Llama]

Always a pretty rotten institution.

Previously about "breeding"

Now about cronyism.

FT or the HoL? 

[Darkon84]

I read today that one of theTory MP's made into a peer claimed several thousands of taxpayers money for a moat. I wonder if there are any fish in it.

 

It was for cleaning the moat, not actually for the moat. He stood down and paid the money, though he still maintains it was never actually claimed.

[Guest MattP]

It's a Tory MP and expenses, just make it up and claim you read it somewhere.

I heard he borrowed 5 people from IDS at the job centre to clean it as well, 4 of them then died due to being sanctioned.

A guy in the pub heard it on the radio.

[Buce]

It's a Tory MP and expenses, just make it up and claim you read it somewhere.

I heard he borrowed 5 people from IDS at the job centre to clean it as well, 4 of them then died due to being sanctioned.

A guy in the pub heard it on the radio.

Typically, that never appeared in the Tory press..

[Mike Oxlong]

FT or the HoL?

Breeding not inbreeding

[Rincewind]

I do not appreciate being called a liar.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-mp-who-claimed-moat-cleaning-on-his-expenses-will-return-to-parliament-through-lords-10474701.html

 

You can actually get an official  list of who claim

ed what online. I believe Corbyn claimed less the least But I expect that will not be believed either and because he is Labour the figure will be in the millions. Of course Tory's are never the bad boys in some peoples' eyes.

 

This is from the Torygraph.  ^{http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/conservative-mps-expenses/}

 

 

 

^{The lists are compiled by IPSA.}

[Guest MattP]

The tell the truth Ken rather than making up things.

Back to the thread Peter Hain said this last year, find it strange he accepts a peerage now.

“The Lords are an archaic anomaly which fuels disillusionment with British politics. It exists purely on a democratic deficit which has been allowed to evolve unchecked for centuries… the fact is that people are fed up with an out-of-touch political class and the growing sense that Westminster is failing us all.”

[Rincewind]

Thought they were your words at first Matt then saw you had quoted. For a moment I thought you had turned.

 

Quote from the Telegraph

 

Douglas Hogg, the former Tory MP who claimed for cleaning out his moat on expenses, among former special advisers and Tory donors to be given peerages and honours

 

Am I still a liar?

[Guest MattP]

Turned?

I think my thoughts on the HOL are quite clear, it's injurious unelected persons can overule elected ones (and I'd say the same about the royals if they ever did). It's needs serious reform at the very least.

[Rincewind]

We are in agreement then.

[Guest MattP]

Yes we are.

I don't think you deliberately lied but as Darkon said, he claimed money for cleaning, not thousands of pounds for an actual moat.

Also as has been mentioned, he still denies this but paid it anyway.