Head Honcho Posted 15 September 2005 Posted 15 September 2005 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...6/nplinth16.xml WTF is that all about. I'm sure we can find something more deserving to put on show.
Babylon Posted 15 September 2005 Posted 15 September 2005 I think the choice sums this country up at the moment to be honest.
Northants Fox Posted 15 September 2005 Posted 15 September 2005 I think the choice sums this country up at the moment to be honest. they like wasting taxpayers money
Nationwider Posted 15 September 2005 Posted 15 September 2005 Any of you had the brains to find out who Alison Lapper is? Probably not, I'm guessing. Get back to your Daily Mails.
Northants Fox Posted 15 September 2005 Posted 15 September 2005 Any of you had the brains to find out who Alison Lapper is? Probably not, I'm guessing. Get back to your Daily Mails. don't read that paper mate
Head Honcho Posted 15 September 2005 Author Posted 15 September 2005 Any of you had the brains to find out who Alison Lapper is? Probably not, I'm guessing. Get back to your Daily Mails. I have actually,which goes back to the original point methinks.
Nationwider Posted 15 September 2005 Posted 15 September 2005 In which case, everyone's entitled to their own opinion. So I apologise for jumping down your throats.
Head Honcho Posted 15 September 2005 Author Posted 15 September 2005 In which case, everyone's entitled to their own opinion. So I apologise for jumping down your throats. Its not as if she's the first disabled person to be displayed in Trafalgar Square. Nelson has been there for over 160 years!
Nationwider Posted 15 September 2005 Posted 15 September 2005 Its not as if she's the first disabled person to be displayed in Trafalgar Square. Nelson has been there for over 160 years! Absolutely. And the statue is part of a rolling exhibition, I believe, so it won't be there as long as Nelson. Being provocative is part of an artist's remit - hence the debate it has caused.
Northants Fox Posted 15 September 2005 Posted 15 September 2005 Its not as if she's the first disabled person to be displayed in Trafalgar Square. Nelson has been there for over 160 years!
Babylon Posted 15 September 2005 Posted 15 September 2005 Any of you had the brains to find out who Alison Lapper is? Probably not, I'm guessing. Get back to your Daily Mails. I know exactly who she is thankyou very much. The fact is once again the powers that be choose something that makes them look PC. Next no doubt it will be someone black. Then someone gay. There are 100's / 1000's of people who in my opinion deserve to be put in stone before her. This country has produced great artists, poets, scientists, inventors, war heros etc etc.... but no we go for a disabled women?
Rincewind Posted 15 September 2005 Posted 15 September 2005 The thing is the arty-farty people look on art in a different way to Joe Public. By admiring controversal art it puts them above everybody else and makes them look intelectual (well they think so) 'Oh Jeremy, isn't that devine?' 'Yes, Charles, it's got a certain sensual quality about it.' 'You have such a way with words Jeremy' 'I know, that's why you love me darling.'
Head Honcho Posted 15 September 2005 Author Posted 15 September 2005 I know exactly who she is thankyou very much. The fact is once again the powers that be choose something that makes them look PC. Next no doubt it will be someone black. Then someone gay. There are 100's / 1000's of people who in my opinion deserve to be put in stone before her. This country has produced great artists, poets, scientists, inventors, war heros etc etc.... but no we go for a disabled women? Not powers that be but power that be namely Ken Livingston
Babylon Posted 15 September 2005 Posted 15 September 2005 The thing is the arty-farty people look on art in a different way to Joe Public. By admiring controversal art it puts them above everybody else and makes them look intelectual (well they think so) 'Oh Jeremy, isn't that devine?' 'Yes, Charles, it's got a certain sensual quality about it.' 'You have such a way with words Jeremy' 'I know, that's why you love me darling.' Exactly the same reason Anthony and the Johnsons won the Mercury Music Prize. Sad.
Nationwider Posted 15 September 2005 Posted 15 September 2005 I know exactly who she is thankyou very much. Ok, that was condescending. Fair enough. The fact is once again the powers that be choose something that makes them look PC. Next no doubt it will be someone black. Then someone gay. ...and the problem with black people and gay people is? There again, you could just go for Nelson Mandela and Oscar Wilde. There are 100's / 1000's of people who in my opinion deserve to be put in stone before her. This country has produced great artists, poets, scientists, inventors, war heros etc etc.... but no we go for a disabled women? Disabled women don't really make a contribution, do they? Perhaps we should just sink them into concrete whilst they're still breathing before sticking them on to plinths, save some disability benefit into the process. Seriously though, I think there are more important things to shit a brick about than a statue and a music prize.
Hitesh Posted 15 September 2005 Posted 15 September 2005 I know who she is and i saw that on Rich And Judy the other day. A brave woman and she deserves it!
Thracian Posted 16 September 2005 Posted 16 September 2005 On balance I think it's a brave and thought-provoking statement. You really could write a book on the reactions it will inspire which is as good a reason to have as statue as any. I am forever astounded by what disabled people achieve in all walks of life, not just in a career sense (Olympians, physicists, business builders, researchers, explorers, the list is endless) but also how so many manage to be positive in their personal lives and form excellent inter-personal relations. If the statue serves as a beacon which encourages others to make the very best of an apparently rough deal then it will do some good - and I certainly can't see that it will do any harm.
Hullfox Posted 16 September 2005 Posted 16 September 2005 As a statue it is a fantastic peice of work. However, for my money, Trafalgar Square is there to celebrate our Naval History. Right Statue, Wrong Place.
Hitesh Posted 16 September 2005 Posted 16 September 2005 As a statue it is a fantastic peice of work.However, for my money, Trafalgar Square is there to celebrate our Naval History. Right Statue, Wrong Place. I thought that when i first heard about it.
Cat Burger Posted 16 September 2005 Posted 16 September 2005 A tribute to femininity and disability? :sleeping:
Gamesmaster Posted 16 September 2005 Posted 16 September 2005 sorry about the other thread, i didnt see it.am i right in saying the statue is because shes disabled?
Hitesh Posted 16 September 2005 Posted 16 September 2005 sorry about the other thread, i didnt see it.am i right in saying the statue is because shes disabled? basically, yes. The guy who did it said: "disabled people were under-represented in art" and thats why it was made. And she said: "She has called it a "modern tribute to femininity, disability and motherhood".
Gamesmaster Posted 16 September 2005 Posted 16 September 2005 thanks hitesh. so can all disabled people have a statue there. what about disabled sports men and women? why is she more speacial than them.
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