Nationwider Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 I think Levein will pick: Douglas - just! Maybury - back in the fold now Johansson - going to be apermanent fixture at LB for a while, I guess McCarthy - form Dublin - form Gudjonsson Kisnorbo Sylla - by default Hamill - likely to be replaced by RS. Hammond - just! De Vries - form Subs: Henderson, Gerrbrand, Smith, Tiatto, Hume I think Hamill, Hammond and the Dublin/Paddy combo will survive on the basis of recent wins or their good form. I think Gerrbrand, Smith and Hume will be very unlucky to miss out, but will all be knocking at the door. The word "solid" springs to mind. With the likes of Wesolowski, Stearman, Hughes, Sheehan, Williams, Gilbert and Wilcox all missing out, we have impressive depth at the moment. Really looking forward to a good game tomorrow!
lush Posted 28 October 2005 Author Posted 28 October 2005 we have impressive depth at the moment. We do, and with recent results, it could be the spring to something great. At the moment, promotion with this and next season seems very probable.
Thracian Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 Not all fit, not all available, and not all in decent form. You wasnt at cardiff, and maybury hasnt been upto stearmans standards, not having played much 1st team games recently. If johanson played at CB, we wouldnt need dublin. No striker on the bench Thrach. b&c: "Let's hope the real Pele De Vries turns up" more like belle Ben: "What's so funny about that? Most people do" Just because most people do...most people in religion think theres a god. If smith has a blinder, how about god-smith Thrachian? We could easily have 2 teams Thrach. douglas stearman macarthy johanson sheehan smith kisnorbo hughes hamill hammond hume hendo maybury gerrbrand dublin gilbert --------williams joey tiatto sylla------------------------wilcox -------------de lump Plus weso and morris to come, things are bright, things are LCFC!! Love the optimism about Morris I felt Stearman was below his best in the last two home games and chose Maybury cos of his contribution to a clean sheet in the tough environment of Cardiff. But both are good and either would suit. Still reckon Maybury will get the nod though, I almost felt Levein indicated so in one of his comments. Re Nils and Dublin I consider Dublin has been outstanding (generally) in defence this season and has a presence in attack which (despite his goal) Nils does not normally show. There's no striker on the bench because I've picked them to play. With Hammill around as sub there would be no problem reverting to 4-4-2 in the event of an injury or even staying at 4-3-3 using Hammill, Sylla or Gold-Smith. As for Smithy's nickname, perhaps we should have a vote. But if he plays anything like Ric Flair's glowing reference suggests I shall be cheering far too much to care!!!
Steven Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 Douglas Maybury, McCarthy, Gerrbrand, Johansson, Sylla, Tiatto, Hughes, Smith, de Vries Hume Subs: Henderson, Kisnorbo, Hammil, Dublin, Hammond
Nationwider Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 We do, and with recent results, it could be the spring to something great. At the moment, promotion with this and next season seems very probable. I'd say very possible, but then I'm a born pessimist! The difference in quality between say, 6th position and 20th is not that great in this league. We have the personnel to make the play-offs - we just need the extra 5% consistency/quality in our performances. I hope Cardiff will have given them a lot of belief. We ARE headed in the right direction.
davieG Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 I think it will be Douglas Maybury, McCarthy, Dublin/Gerrbrand, Nissa Sylla, Kisnorbo, Joey, Hamill/Smith MDV, Hume. Gerrbrand to play if Dubs not up to it. I'm not sure if he'll start with Smith.
Ric Flair Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 I think Levein will pick: Douglas - just! Maybury - back in the fold now Johansson - going to be apermanent fixture at LB for a while, I guess McCarthy - form Dublin - form Gudjonsson Kisnorbo Sylla - by default Hamill - likely to be replaced by RS. Hammond - just! De Vries - form Subs: Henderson, Gerrbrand, Smith, Tiatto, Hume I think Hamill, Hammond and the Dublin/Paddy combo will survive on the basis of recent wins or their good form. I think Gerrbrand, Smith and Hume will be very unlucky to miss out, but will all be knocking at the door. The word "solid" springs to mind. With the likes of Wesolowski, Stearman, Hughes, Sheehan, Williams, Gilbert and Wilcox all missing out, we have impressive depth at the moment. Really looking forward to a good game tomorrow! Elvis won't start I wouldn't have thought. Levein explained he dropped him against Cov because he wasn't scoring and that Hume played excellently against Cov. Obviously Elvis played on wednesday but again he didn't even look like scoring so I doubt he'll start.
Nationwider Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 Elvis won't start I wouldn't have thought. Levein explained he dropped him against Cov because he wasn't scoring and that Hume played excellently against Cov. Obviously Elvis played on wednesday but again he didn't even look like scoring so I doubt he'll start. I wish we had a fourth main striker in the squad. It seems the norm for most Prem/decent CCC sides these days. A couple of injuries and we're really struggling up front. As much as I like Dion, I don't want to see him clattering about up front more than is necessary.
lush Posted 28 October 2005 Author Posted 28 October 2005 Love the optimism about Morris Re Nils and Dublin I consider Dublin has been outstanding (generally) in defence this season and has a presence in attack which (despite his goal) Nils does not normally show. There's no striker on the bench because I've picked them to play. With Hammill around as sub there would be no problem reverting to 4-4-2 in the event of an injury or even staying at 4-3-3 using Hammill, Sylla or Gold-Smith. As for Smithy's nickname, perhaps we should have a vote. But if he plays anything like Ric Flair's glowing reference suggests I shall be cheering far too much to care!!! Morris was quality in the 2 and 3/4 games hes played I read some headache stuff all the time now dublin has been very average. he shy`s away from dangerous tackles, ok he can head the ball, but does he know where hes heading it??? Hes slow, and even in this league you need some of that. At the moment, its macarthy and johanson guiding him through games. He is a liability. Wish he played for preston. Do you not think that you put a player on the bench to replace his position, not to change the formation? Do a poll Thrach, and put god-smith in there.
BenFilbert Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 Morris was quality in the 2 and 3/4 games hes played I read some headache stuff all the time now dublin has been very average. he shy`s away from dangerous tackles, ok he can head the ball, but does he know where hes heading it??? Hes slow, and even in this league you need some of that. At the moment, its macarthy and johanson guiding him through games. He is a liability. Wish he played for preston. Do you not think that you put a player on the bench to replace his position, not to change the formation? Do a poll Thrach, and put god-smith in there. Dion is the one leading McCarthy through games. Dion is amazing! He's the best defender we've got. We wouldn't be were we are without him in the team. He is very important!
lush Posted 28 October 2005 Author Posted 28 October 2005 Dion is the one leading McCarthy through games. Dion is amazing! He's the best defender we've got. We wouldn't be were we are without him in the team. He is very important! Ok, explain in footballing terms how dublin is the best defender weve got?
BenFilbert Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 Ok, explain in footballing terms how dublin is the best defender weve got? He keeps the players contolled. He talks to them. You can see him. He's positive. He never misses a header. His experience more than makes up for his lack of pace which never lets him down. He's making McCarthy a better player. It's well known that McCarthy is getting better. It's because of Dion. He is a massive part of the team and we would be worse without him.
Thracian Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 Morris was quality in the 2 and 3/4 games hes played I read some headache stuff all the time now dublin has been very average. he shy`s away from dangerous tackles, ok he can head the ball, but does he know where hes heading it??? Hes slow, and even in this league you need some of that. At the moment, its macarthy and johanson guiding him through games. He is a liability. Wish he played for preston. Do you not think that you put a player on the bench to replace his position, not to change the formation? Do a poll Thrach, and put god-smith in there. Let's wait for the poll til after the Preston match. It'll give people a chance to have seen/heard how he plays. You are not serious about having someone describe Dublin's footballing capabilities are you? We don't have too many ex-England internationals in our squad and, while he may be older, you don't ever get to that level without having ability. He's shown it in abundance this season - as our defensive record indicates.
Foxes_Wizard_Striker Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 so many optiions, Hughes is injured, I read it in Leicester Mercury my line up is Douglas Johansson Dublin McCarthy Maybury Smith Williams Guds Tiatto De Vries Hume subs Syalla,Hammond,Gerrbrand,Henderson,Hamill Douglas-he is doing his job really but Henderson deserves a chance soon,I would like to see defence against Preston who played against Cardiff but if our dear old Dublin are too tired Johansson can replaced him and Stearman or Sheenan can fill the void at right back.Smith, he is on loan so we might well make most of it so he should start every game if fit and on form.Williams for passes to Smith, Guds and Tiatto for bruising and roughing up Preston midfield also helping out defence but Tiatto are not allowed in pentaly area I don't trust him to make a tackle there.DeVries have to play he is our top scorer and only man to keeping banging them in and Hume for creativity and flair also needed to grab a goal for condifence.Henderson must to be on the bench,Hammond to replaced injured striker,injured centre defender should be replaced by Gerrbrand if full backs are injured Tiatto can move back and Syalla or Hamill filled in for him enuff said
dynamite foxes Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 Lush you are very deluded. Dion must play not only is he a fantastic leader his heading ability is phenomenal and you cannot play 4 inexperienced defenders together. IMO Johansson has been poor and I would much rather see Sheehan. Its a shame Williams will not fill in for Hughes because I think we will lack creativity.
lush Posted 28 October 2005 Author Posted 28 October 2005 He never misses a header. His experience more than makes up for his lack of pace which never lets him down. Never? are you sure?? His experience is of playing premiership football. He has little exprerience of division 2 football, and his pace lets him down. I deleted the rest of what you wrote, because its the norm, everyone does it. Poor evaluation of "our" best player. Thrach, our defensive record is poor, thats why were 13th. Who picked him for England? Turnip head by any chance? Not everyone has picked dubs you know. dynamite, johanson is a fantastic leader, and can do anything dubs can do in defence, plus he has more pace.. macarthy is a rotweiller. Who needs dubs...
TAFKA Castroneves Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 DOUGLAS JOHANSSON - DUBLIN - GERRBRAND - MAYBURYSMITH - HUGHES - GUDJOHNSSON - SYLLADE VRIES - HUMEBench:HENDERSONSTEARMANKISNORBOHAMILLHAMMOND
Ric Flair Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 Never? are you sure?? His experience is of playing premiership football. He has little exprerience of division 2 football, and his pace lets him down. I deleted the rest of what you wrote, because its the norm, everyone does it. Poor evaluation of "our" best player. Thrach, our defensive record is poor, thats why were 13th. Who picked him for England? Turnip head by any chance? Not everyone has picked dubs you know. dynamite, johanson is a fantastic leader, and can do anything dubs can do in defence, plus he has more pace.. macarthy is a rotweiller. Who needs dubs... Is it ok if I enter this debate Lush? You dismiss some of the players such as Gudjonsson, de Vries and Dublin and ask us to describe their qualities, etc. Which is fair enough but you only see things in black and white that you don;t agree with, what makes it even funnier is you argue with people about Gudjonsson and Dublin and then have the cheek to claim Lee Morris was class in the games he played. So in retrospect to the response you always make, tell us all exactly how Morris was class for us in the games played. Did he score? No, did he set any goals up? No, so what exactly has he done that makes him class? I haven't always been Dublin's biggest fan, just like I haven't been Gudjonsson's biggest fan. But in my eyes Dublin has been excellent in the past 4 or 5 games and I think not only the way he has played but the influence he has on others has also made us a better team and improved our results. McCarthy has been in fine form this month and i'd say that is partly down to the understanding him and Dublin have together. Paddy wasn't playing that well alongside Nissa earlier in the season and that's when we were leaking alot of goals. Recently whilst Dublin and Paddy have been playing together our defence has been alot tighter and we haven't been shipping as mnay goals. Gone are the goals conceded from set pieces, gone are the other sloppy errors that were being made in abundance. In the last 6 games we have conceded 4 goals, which is an improvement on earlier in the season when Dublin wasn't playing as much at the back. Coincidence? I don't think so. At present Dion is in form for us and so is McCarthy and i'd say alot of it is down to Dublin and the way he marshals the defence. PS I think Dublin got his caps under Glenn Hoddle and Kevin Keegan
Thracian Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 Never? are you sure?? His experience is of playing premiership football. He has little exprerience of division 2 football, and his pace lets him down. I deleted the rest of what you wrote, because its the norm, everyone does it. Poor evaluation of "our" best player. Thrach, our defensive record is poor, thats why were 13th. Who picked him for England? Turnip head by any chance? Not everyone has picked dubs you know. dynamite, johanson is a fantastic leader, and can do anything dubs can do in defence, plus he has more pace.. macarthy is a rotweiller. Who needs dubs... Come-on Lush. We must have as steady a defence as there is in the land for the last few weeks. Basically a goal a game conceded and that is excellent for Championship players who have been getting used to each other in an often-changing line-up. I said in the summer this was the best we could hope for and that we needed to score at least two/three goals a game. Dublin's great strengths are his reading of the game, his superior aerial ability alongside his fellow central defenders and his ability to command organisational respect from colleagues around him. McCarthy's doing fine, Gerrbrand too sounds promising but I remain concerned about Nils' vulnerability when fast players run at and turn him. Certainly that makes him safer in central defence but, as others have said, we can't afford two slowish players in that role so Dublin with McCarthy/Gerrbrand probably makes most sense (for now). I don't think our debate will matter much because Levein will play Nils at full-back again against Preston - presumably because its diplomatically easier than playing Sheehan. With the winning goal and a clean sheet at Cardiff, Levein can certainly argue his case.
Ric Flair Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 Make of this what you will Lush but out of the 18 goals we have conceded in the league this season, we have only conceded 7 when Dublin has played at the back. If I have worked this out right, he has played 9 games at the back and in one of those we were down to 10 men after only 20 mins and it could be said that with 11 men on the field we might not have conceded 2 goals. So in the 6 games Dublin hasn't played at the back we have conceded 11 goals. You do the math sunshine on that.
lush Posted 28 October 2005 Author Posted 28 October 2005 Is it ok if I enter this debate Lush? You dismiss some of the players such as Gudjonsson, de Vries and Dublin and ask us to describe their qualities, etc. Which is fair enough but you only see things in black and white that you don;t agree with, what makes it even funnier is you argue with people about Gudjonsson and Dublin and then have the cheek to claim Lee Morris was class in the games he played. So in retrospect to the response you always make, tell us all exactly how Morris was class for us in the games played. Did he score? No, did he set any goals up? No, so what exactly has he done that makes him class? I haven't always been Dublin's biggest fan, just like I haven't been Gudjonsson's biggest fan. But in my eyes Dublin has been excellent in the past 4 or 5 games and I think not only the way he has played but the influence he has on others has also made us a better team and improved our results. McCarthy has been in fine form this month and i'd say that is partly down to the understanding him and Dublin have together. Paddy wasn't playing that well alongside Nissa earlier in the season and that's when we were leaking alot of goals. Recently whilst Dublin and Paddy have been playing together our defence has been alot tighter and we haven't been shipping as mnay goals. Gone are the goals conceded from set pieces, gone are the other sloppy errors that were being made in abundance. In the last 6 games we have conceded 4 goals, which is an improvement on earlier in the season when Dublin wasn't playing as much at the back. Coincidence? I don't think so. At present Dion is in form for us and so is McCarthy and i'd say alot of it is down to Dublin and the way he marshals the defence. PS I think Dublin got his caps under Glenn Hoddle and Kevin Keegan In the few games morris played in, he did more than any other player. he got the crowd going with his trickery, and we looked like we could score then win. he put the opposition under pressure, thats his game. In that respect, he did a better job per play than de lump dubs and joey does, and williams. Ask yourself this, with all his injury nightmare, why hasnt the club and morris ended his contract mutually, must have ability then. You flaming lier, you said joey was brilliant. Dubs started against crewe, luton cardiff (league) qpr and others, goals against with him starting in his first nine starts is 10 goals. Coming on as sub 3 times, we conceeded 3 goals. This is all games upto cov. Johanson has started every game, if your going to provide evidence as to why our defence is getting better, you might wana start with the most played defender? But Thrach, we all know sheehan should play LB, and johanson has been the most consistant defender, and the one whos held us together, so johanson or dubs?
Ric Flair Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 In the few games morris played in, he did more than any other player. he got the crowd going with his trickery, and we looked like we could score then win. he put the opposition under pressure, thats his game. In that respect, he did a better job per play than de lump dubs and joey does, and williams. Ask yourself this, with all his injury nightmare, why hasnt the club and morris ended his contract mutually, must have ability then. You flaming lier, you said joey was brilliant. Dubs started against crewe, luton cardiff (league) qpr and others, goals against with him starting in his first nine starts is 10 goals. Coming on as sub 3 times, we conceeded 3 goals. This is all games upto cov. Johanson has started every game, if your going to provide evidence as to why our defence is getting better, you might wana start with the most played defender? But Thrach, we all know sheehan should play LB, and johanson has been the most consistant defender, and the one whos held us together, so johanson or dubs? He was upfront in both of those games squire. PS I said that Gudjonsson had been brilliant this season, last season you could often find me slagging him off to high heaven.
Thracian Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 In the few games morris played in, he did more than any other player. he got the crowd going with his trickery, and we looked like we could score then win. he put the opposition under pressure, thats his game. In that respect, he did a better job per play than de lump dubs and joey does, and williams. Ask yourself this, with all his injury nightmare, why hasnt the club and morris ended his contract mutually, must have ability then. You flaming lier, you said joey was brilliant. Dubs started against crewe, luton cardiff (league) qpr and others, goals against with him starting in his first nine starts is 10 goals. Coming on as sub 3 times, we conceeded 3 goals. This is all games upto cov. Johanson has started every game, if your going to provide evidence as to why our defence is getting better, you might wana start with the most played defender? But Thrach, we all know sheehan should play LB, and johanson has been the most consistant defender, and the one whos held us together, so johanson or dubs? Dublin - for exactly the reasons explained by Ric Flair in an earlier thread. Plus his threat at set pieces in a team that carries little aerial threat. Our defence looked decidedly creaky earlier on with McCarthy and Nils in the centre. At first I thought it was down to McCarthy's uncertainty and slight lack of height for a centre-back but he certainly looks okay now with Dublin. I don't want to sound as if I'm rubbishing Nils cos that's not what I intend but McCarthy's pace and combativeness have also impressed me, especially now he's cut out the silly fouls. Nils will make a versatile substitute.
TrickyTrev Posted 28 October 2005 Posted 28 October 2005 ...............Henderson Maybury..Dublin..Gerrband..Sheehan ...Williams.Kisnorbo...Hughes.. ...Hume....................Smith ..............De Vries A 4-5-1/4-3-3 option. I'd like to see Gerrband given a Championsjip start. I have got with Sheehan and Maybury as the full backs as I don't think you can have two 18 year olds on each side so I have gone with one expereienced and oen youngster. I think Sheehan offers us quality delivery from set pieces which are finally becoming an important part fo our game.
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