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Silva Fox

Silva Fox

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23 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

and sub £3m for Ben Nelson is gonna offer about as much satisfaction to PSR as Rudkin going out for a walk in the city centre and picking up every coin he sees. If you're not getting over 10m at a minimum for an academy prospect, then in our situation it's not worth selling.

Don't think he'd get very far! :ph34r:

Miquel The Work Geordie

Miquel The Work Geordie

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1 minute ago, FoxinNotts said:

The value of selling him is worth more than the profit of selling anyone else

 

I'm aware — I just don't think flogging him now benefits us in any meaningful way. He's going far, couple of seasons more with us and his value will skyrocket. Would sooner try and turn a profit on Faes for now.

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Ryy

Ryy

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25 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

The value of selling him is worth more than the profit of selling anyone else

Let’s sell Alves and Braybrooke aswell then

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FoxinNotts

FoxinNotts

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Let’s sell Alves and Braybrooke aswell then

No. We're really short on numbers  in those midfield departments, I'd rather sell:

Iversen

Thomas

Nelson

Brunt

Choudhury

McAteer

What we'd get for these combined, plus the circa £10m we get for Maresca and staff, would surely be enough 'pure profit' from the sales side, to appease PSR so that we didn't have to sell KDH, Alves or Braybrooke?

I suspect PSR is the reason we didn't want to part with £4m for Corberan

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The Doctor

The Doctor

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4 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

Great. Sell him for whatever we can get then.

"let's sell off our best youngsters for nothing" is in fact a terrible plan

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FoxinNotts

FoxinNotts

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1 minute ago, The Doctor said:

"let's sell off our best youngsters for nothing" is in fact a terrible plan

No, not 'nothing', but as much as we can get. And, it's not 'youngsters' but those players which have come through the academy, as it's pure profit.

 

I do wonder sometimes if people read about the PSR difficulties we are in, and understand why, and also how clubs can comply.

 

These are not my own personal choices, but they are the options imposed upon us to comply with FFP

Miquel The Work Geordie

Miquel The Work Geordie

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12 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

No, not 'nothing', but as much as we can get. And, it's not 'youngsters' but those players which have come through the academy, as it's pure profit.

 

I do wonder sometimes if people read about the PSR difficulties we are in, and understand why, and also how clubs can comply.

 

These are not my own personal choices, but they are the options imposed upon us to comply with FFP

 

You thought £3 million for Ben Nelson was tidy man, "pure profit" or not that would be a new low even for us

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FoxinNotts

FoxinNotts

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1 hour ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

I'm aware — I just don't think flogging him now benefits us in any meaningful way. He's going far, couple of seasons more with us and his value will skyrocket. Would sooner try and turn a profit on Faes for now.

There are no profits to be had on Faes, or Soumare, or Kristiansen, or ….. 

 

this is the point

Miquel The Work Geordie

Miquel The Work Geordie

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Just now, FoxinNotts said:

There are no profits to be had on Faes, or Soumare, or Kristiansen, or ….. 

 

this is the point

 

I genuinely think we could make money on Faes. Certainly the amount you'd be willing to let Nelson go for. I think his stock is weirdly quite high outside of the people who watch him every week — he starts for Belgium.

 

You're making out like I don't understand how all this works when I simply don't think selling one of our best assets "at any price" is a viable plan.

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FoxinNotts

FoxinNotts

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3 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

You thought £3 million for Ben Nelson was tidy man, "pure profit" or not that would be a new low even for us

What will people pay us for him, in your opinion?

The Doctor

The Doctor

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10 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

No, not 'nothing', but as much as we can get. And, it's not 'youngsters' but those players which have come through the academy, as it's pure profit.

 

I do wonder sometimes if people read about the PSR difficulties we are in, and understand why, and also how clubs can comply.

 

These are not my own personal choices, but they are the options imposed upon us to comply with FFP

no, I know full well the issues with PSR but clamouring to sell high potential players for below reasonable valuation and then replace them with absolute guff is a dogshit idea. like, say we sell Nelson for £3m and bring in Rodan for £10m like you suggested. he'd have to be a minimum of a 4 year contract to see any profit on the books for this season and even then it'd only be £500k. it shouldn't be something we even consider when we'd make more profit without needing to replace anyone by selling Soumare for £7m plus

FoxinNotts

FoxinNotts

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2 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

I genuinely think we could make money on Faes. Certainly the amount you'd be willing to let Nelson go for. I think his stock is weirdly quite high outside of the people who watch him every week — he starts for Belgium.

 

You're making out like I don't understand how all this works when I simply don't think selling one of our best assets "at any price" is a viable plan.

I hear ya, I just don’t think we get enough (if any) profit from Faes after what we’ve paid. Same goes for most our purchased sqaud

FoxinNotts

FoxinNotts

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2 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

no, I know full well the issues with PSR but clamouring to sell high potential players for below reasonable valuation and then replace them with absolute guff is a dogshit idea. like, say we sell Nelson for £3m and bring in Rodan for £10m like you suggested. he'd have to be a minimum of a 4 year contract to see any profit on the books for this season and even then it'd only be £500k. it shouldn't be something we even consider when we'd make more profit without needing to replace anyone by selling Soumare for £7m plus

That’s not how it’s calculated. What did we pay for Soumare?

FoxinNotts

FoxinNotts

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2 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

I think we could get ~£18-20m for him.

 

Are you going to brush over your other daft point?

Which point is that? 😂

Stopharage

Stopharage

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5 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

Plan:

If we could get say £3m combined for these two, we should take it.

Bank it before June 30th PSR pure profit.

Then we need a Centre back with a bit of Pace. Leaving us 5 options (even Vestergaard could get some game time, if we deploy a low block with three at the back. Cooper is pragmatic. He mixes up the formation quite frequently).

Are you related to Rudkin?!

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FoxinNotts

FoxinNotts

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3 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

I think we could get ~£18-20m for him.

 

Are you going to brush over your other daft point?

And what did we invest in Faes, and what profit would that give us?

The Doctor

The Doctor

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3 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

I think we could get ~£18-20m for him.

 

Are you going to brush over your other daft point?

for reference, getting 18m for him would be £9m book profit, compared to the suggestion of Nelson for £3m...

FoxinNotts

FoxinNotts

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Just now, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

You wanting to flog bright prospects at any cost, I'd imagine!

I didn’t say that 😂 

 

We should get as much as we can

 

thats a very different statement 

FoxinNotts

FoxinNotts

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1 minute ago, The Doctor said:

for reference, getting 18m for him would be £9m book profit, compared to the suggestion of Nelson for £3m...

No it wouldn’t 😂

The Doctor

The Doctor

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2 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

That’s not how it’s calculated. What did we pay for Soumare?

yes it is! we paid around 16-17m for Soumare on a 5 year deal, his contract is up in 2026 and is amortized at then 3-3.5m a season. two seasons left, his book value is somewhere between 6-7m, anything above that is profit on the books

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