Jeremy Monga

[Harry the Cat]

Panto season has started early 

[Dahnsouff]

Not a good day for the lad. Just hope he keeps his feet in the ground. 

[coolhandfox]

His a kid, learning on the job, his going to to do stupid things.

Edited 27 September 2025 by coolhandfox

[JimJams]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

His a kid, learning on the job, his going to fmdonstupid things.

Freudian...

[Richmondfox]

He really needs better players and coaches around him to encourage his natural ability and learn more styles of play.  Diving from Ayew and step over challenge from Mavadidi isn’t it. 
 

At the moment it’s just stand back and watch him skin everyone, which is great to watch but it’s a team sport.  He needs more than a bag of tricks, he needs support, positioning and tactics, something Fatawu isn’t getting either.  

 

If he had someone like Lief Davies behind him he would flourish, get in much better positions and not have as many defenders on him.  I really want to see him shooting more. The same with Mavadidi. 

 

[Chelmofox]

2 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

He really needs better players and coaches around him to encourage his natural ability and learn more styles of play.  Diving from Ayew and step over challenge from Mavadidi isn’t it. 
 

At the moment it’s just stand back and watch him skin everyone, which is great to watch but it’s a team sport.  He needs more than a bag of tricks, he needs support, positioning and tactics, something Fatawu isn’t getting either.  

 

If he had someone like Lief Davies behind him he would flourish, get in much better positions and not have as many defenders on him.  I really want to see him shooting more. The same with Mavadidi. 

 

He needs time to develop and grow, try things out, experiment and be allowed to make mistakes from time to time.

[Richmondfox]

6 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

He needs time to develop and grow, try things out, experiment and be allowed to make mistakes from time to time.

I’m not criticising mistakes but the diving is a bad habit at an early age he needs to stamp out. I don’t see what him and Abdul do as mistakes or “bad stats”, they are unfortunately expected to do it all by themselves. 

 

I was making the point that he needs players and coaches so he can flourish and make him better.  Actual tactics and patterns of play.  Not just a guy who can skin players but a brilliant team player.  He’s at the developmental stage where his peers and role models are important. 

[Dahnsouff]

5 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

I’m not criticising mistakes but the diving is a bad habit at an early age he needs to stamp out. I don’t see what him and Abdul do as mistakes or “bad stats”, they are unfortunately expected to do it all by themselves. 

 

I was making the point that he needs players and coaches so he can flourish and make him better.  Actual tactics and patterns of play.  Not just a guy who can skin players but a brilliant team player.  He’s at the developmental stage where his peers and role models are important. 

But this is an assumption that he does not get that from our senior pro's. We are so busy panning our senior pro's we don`t stop to think perhaps they are valuable to the playing unit at large, despite our disgruntlement with them being slow, expensive or some other less than desirable attribute. Maybe they are as horrific as some fear, but maybe not!  

 

You absolutely would want the seniors to have a word with Monga about his diving (Maybe Ayew shows him how to win free kicks from it   )

[goog]

18 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

He really needs better players and coaches around him to encourage his natural ability and learn more styles of play.  Diving from Ayew and step over challenge from Mavadidi isn’t it. 
 

At the moment it’s just stand back and watch him skin everyone, which is great to watch but it’s a team sport.  He needs more than a bag of tricks, he needs support, positioning and tactics, something Fatawu isn’t getting either.  

 

If he had someone like Lief Davies behind him he would flourish, get in much better positions and not have as many defenders on him.  I really want to see him shooting more. The same with Mavadidi. 

 

Didn't take long before the criticism started.

Do you not think he's getting coached now? 

Let him play his natural game and be who he is. 

He's a kid he's gonna make mistakes and has to go through that process to learn from them. 

[goog]

21 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

He really needs better players and coaches around him to encourage his natural ability and learn more styles of play.  Diving from Ayew and step over challenge from Mavadidi isn’t it. 
 

At the moment it’s just stand back and watch him skin everyone, which is great to watch but it’s a team sport.  He needs more than a bag of tricks, he needs support, positioning and tactics, something Fatawu isn’t getting either.  

 

If he had someone like Lief Davies behind him he would flourish, get in much better positions and not have as many defenders on him.  I really want to see him shooting more. The same with Mavadidi. 

 

Didn't ever hear anyone moan about Vardy diving to win us many penalties.  

Like it or not it's part if today's game , he just needs to get better at it. 

[Noahfence]

That Max Dowman has dived a few times since getting in the Arsenal side I’ve noticed. Just an age thing I imagine.  

[Richmondfox]

5 minutes ago, goog said:

Didn't take long before the criticism started.

Do you not think he's getting coached now? 

Let him play his natural game and be who he is. 

He's a kid he's gonna make mistakes and has to go through that process to learn from them. 

Read and process the words. I’m not criticising him. I’m criticising the people around him. 

[Richmondfox]

4 minutes ago, goog said:

Didn't ever hear anyone moan about Vardy diving to win us many penalties.  

Like it or not it's part if today's game , he just needs to get better at it. 

I would love to see him get in the box, it would mean the players around him are progressing the ball. Unfortunately our forwards are scared to visit it. 

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, Richmondfox said:

Read and process the words. I’m not criticising him. I’m criticising the people around him. 

Anyway. No player should be immune from criticism, it has seemed more of a comment than a criticism.  

[goog]

2 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

Read and process the words. I’m not criticising him. I’m criticising the people around him. 

The fact everyone seems to have jumped on you suggests you then need to word your posts better. 

[Richmondfox]

9 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

But this is an assumption that he does not get that from our senior pro's. We are so busy panning our senior pro's we don`t stop to think perhaps they are valuable to the playing unit at large, despite our disgruntlement with them being slow, expensive or some other less than desirable attribute. Maybe they are as horrific as some fear, but maybe not!  

 

You absolutely would want the seniors to have a word with Monga about his diving (Maybe Ayew shows him how to win free kicks from it   )

Our senior pros are not that good. I’m saying he needs better people around him to grow.

 

I don’t think the manager is that good at the moment.  I gave him a clean slate but watching the games so far nothing is really improving attack wise.

 

Again, the point I’m making is he is getting game time which is great, but the tactics seem to be the wingers get the ball and try and skin with no support. 

[Ric Flair]

Would not be surprised if Monga has been repeatedly told to try and preempt any collisions with opposition players as they look to make their mark on him in the hope he will be intimidated. 

 

He's strong is Monga and doesn't seem that bothered when he is clattered, made an absolute mockery out of Gooch at Huddersfield who was very aggressive with him. I've no major issue with his diving as I think he's been harshly dealt with so far.

[Chelmofox]

2 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

Our senior pros are not that good. I’m saying he needs better people around him to grow.

 

I don’t think the manager is that good at the moment.  I gave him a clean slate but watching the games so far nothing is really improving attack wise.

 

Again, the point I’m making is he is getting game time which is great, but the tactics seem to be the wingers get the ball and try and skin with no support. 

There is nothing to suggest he doesn't have the people around him that are best for his development.  You name check Lief Davis, but for all we know the guys a complete co*k who couldn't care about anyone other than himself. Ipswich are hardly nailing it right now. I have a feeling most footballers care mostly about themselves.

 

As for Marti, seems silly to go all in on him right now. It's a work in progress and one of his new attacking midfielders got sent off, and his hew loan striker isn't match fit yet. I think we are going to see small tweaks to get where he wants. We are currently out performing all of the relegated sides and one point from 2nd. 

 

Regarding 'no support', again i think the manager tweaks this, but the lad has an assist to his name.

 

 

[Dahnsouff]

12 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

Our senior pros are not that good. I’m saying he needs better people around him to grow.

 

I don’t think the manager is that good at the moment.  I gave him a clean slate but watching the games so far nothing is really improving attack wise.

 

Again, the point I’m making is he is getting game time which is great, but the tactics seem to be the wingers get the ball and try and skin with no support. 

You don`t get to cop out that easily. I made the point that the senior pro's are perhaps not good enough at what we want in terms of on pitch performances, but you are also saying this translates to them being a poor influence as well?

[Chelmofox]

7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Would not be surprised if Monga has been repeatedly told to try and preempt any collisions with opposition players as they look to make their mark on him in the hope he will be intimidated. 

 

He's strong is Monga and doesn't seem that bothered when he is clattered, made an absolute mockery out of Gooch at Huddersfield who was very aggressive with him. I've no major issue with his diving as I think he's been harshly dealt with so far.

I second this - i though the ref was an absolute ***** in the West Brom game when he booked him. Made it a real theatre moment when actually the best thing to do would have been have a quick word. I've seen far worse get nothing, and find it a bit sad that the refs try and make an example of it with the academy players.

[Richmondfox]

Just now, Chelmofox said:

There is nothing to suggest he doesn't have the people around him that are best for his development.  You name check Lief Davis, but for all we know the guys a complete co*k who couldn't care about anyone other than himself. Ipswich are hardly nailing it right now. I have a feeling most footballers care mostly about themselves.

 

As for Marti, seems silly to go all in on him right now. It's a work in progress and one of his new attacking midfielders got sent off, and his hew loan striker isn't match fit yet. I think we are going to see small tweaks to get where he wants. We are currently out performing all of the relegated sides and one point from 2nd. 

 

Regarding 'no support', again i think the manager tweaks this, but the lad has an assist to his name.

 

 

I respect other people views and opinions so I won’t say they are wrong. I feel

we are seeing the same as the last two managers and the excuses and copes are the same. 
 

Watch our wingers get the ball, no one runs beyond them, they always stand next to them or if they do help, just come close to get the ball and it kills the attack.

 

 

Ricardo and Silko Thomas looked good together, a lot of energy and very progressive.

 

Also, again I’m not criticising Monga, I’m hoping we can build around someone with such talent and also see us improve it as a team.  There is only so far we can go with Monga and Farawu’s natural ability. 

[Richmondfox]

6 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

You don`t get to cop out that easily. I made the point that the senior pro's are perhaps not good enough at what we want in terms of on pitch performances, but you are also saying this translates to them being a poor influence as well?

Not sure if you meant to word that as a statement because it has a question mark at the end.  I’m not saying that. I’m only talking about on the pitch. I’m sure he has a strong family unit and friends around him to guide and grow. 

 

Anyway, I’m over it. Monga is a generational talent, our manager is crap and the senior players, (apart from Ricardo) technically are crap. The football speaks for itself.  I’ll change my mind when we batter a team. 

 

[David Gutteridge]

35 minutes ago, goog said:

The fact everyone seems to have jumped on you suggests you then need to word your posts better. 

You seem to be criticising the manager coaching staff as not being good enough to educate him in what to do on the pitch he’s 16 years of age for Christ sake.

[acb]

He needs to stop annoyingly pulling his shorts down everytime he does anything. Horrible chavi thing to do

 

[Dahnsouff]

13 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

Not sure if you meant to word that as a statement because it has a question mark at the end.  I’m not saying that. I’m only talking about on the pitch. I’m sure he has a strong family unit and friends around him to guide and grow. 

 

Anyway, I’m over it. Monga is a generational talent, our manager is crap and the senior players, (apart from Ricardo) technically are crap. The football speaks for itself.  I’ll change my mind when we batter a team. 

 

No, it’s was a question, I was unsure if you were saying that our older players are naff on the pitch, therefore they cannot be helpful for our younger players, something I obviously would disagree with.

 

Anyway, who cares, we are all here for the same.