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Posted
22 minutes ago, David Lowe said:

Well this is all very good and it is correct that these issues are being discussed if raised by fans. But should these really be the main discussions when most fans are asking what on earth is happening to this club on the field and how this decline is going to be stopped!

I understand David and yes as fans we moan but if you read the Fan Engagement Framework those topics are considered out of scope. Very few clubs engage openly about playing details and it is a little unmanageable as we all have opinions about performance etc how do they respond?  You mention BDCR as an example and my wife and myself are incredulous with rage  in milliseconds but others defend him. The same applies to executives I personally think the Trust continually calling out Rudkin to be fired stops them doing anything just to spite us.  We work the battles and issues we can but I can assure you discussions in dealt about the playing side are firmly off topic. Do I agree no but I kinda understand.listen to James McCarron he supports this style and my reaction is god help us.

Posted
38 minutes ago, Globalfox said:

I understand David and yes as fans we moan but if you read the Fan Engagement Framework those topics are considered out of scope. Very few clubs engage openly about playing details and it is a little unmanageable as we all have opinions about performance etc how do they respond?  You mention BDCR as an example and my wife and myself are incredulous with rage  in milliseconds but others defend him. The same applies to executives I personally think the Trust continually calling out Rudkin to be fired stops them doing anything just to spite us.  We work the battles and issues we can but I can assure you discussions in dealt about the playing side are firmly off topic. Do I agree no but I kinda understand.listen to James McCarron he supports this style and my reaction is god help us.

I wasn’t really suggesting discussion of individual players, just the overall situation. How are the club looking to go about putting out a better product on the pitch & how can a club of this size survive if it slips into non-league which is where we look to be heading.

Posted
1 hour ago, lestuhfox said:

Now whos insulting.

Passing an observation on a comment made is not and never had been a personal insult. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Robo61 said:

Passing an observation on a comment made is not and never had been a personal insult. 

Fans wanting ID checks are in the minority at all clubs.

That is a fact.

Posted
1 minute ago, lestuhfox said:

Fans wanting ID checks are in the minority at all clubs.

That is fact.

Oh I must have missed that vote

Posted
26 minutes ago, Robo61 said:

Oh I must have missed that vote

You did. The Trust asked about in an End of Season Survey completed by thousands and the data showed a trend against it.

 

But I guess if you and a handful of others (many of whom don’t even go away regularly) at a poorly attended Your 90 Minutes session liked the idea and thought it was good then that’s ok.

 

If the club had anything about them, they’d canvass opinions of those are most affected by it and give more weighting to their opinion than those who just like the idea but aren’t going to be inconvenienced.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Globalfox said:

I understand David and yes as fans we moan but if you read the Fan Engagement Framework those topics are considered out of scope. Very few clubs engage openly about playing details and it is a little unmanageable as we all have opinions about performance etc how do they respond?  You mention BDCR as an example and my wife and myself are incredulous with rage  in milliseconds but others defend him. The same applies to executives I personally think the Trust continually calling out Rudkin to be fired stops them doing anything just to spite us.  We work the battles and issues we can but I can assure you discussions in dealt about the playing side are firmly off topic. Do I agree no but I kinda understand.listen to James McCarron he supports this style and my reaction is god help us.

Interesting take (but not one I agree with).

 

Some tell you the Trust has no impact and affects nothing, others now think it’s keeping Rudkin in a job!  :P

Posted
18 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

You did. The Trust asked about in an End of Season Survey completed by thousands and the data showed a trend against it.

 

But I guess if you and a handful of others (many of whom don’t even go away regularly) at a poorly attended Your 90 Minutes session liked the idea and thought it was good then that’s ok.

 

If the club had anything about them, they’d canvass opinions of those are most affected by it and give more weighting to their opinion than those who just like the idea but aren’t going to be inconvenienced.

Then I apologise,  though the popularity or otherwise of this idea was never my argument and I only came on hear to answer a question.  Do we know how many of those voting against in the Trusts survey attend away matches.   can assure you all of those that attended the your 90 minutes session attend away games,  some more regularly then others.   The session was poorly attended yet no one spoke against identity checks,  if you and others have strong views then why are you not attending these fan engagement sessions.  

 

I can't say I particularly like the idea and it will effect me,  as one who occasionally gets my nephew a ticket for away matches,  adversely. But I do recognise it as the only current way of policing abuse of whatever away ticket loyalty system comes next.  Perhaps you have a better idea,  or you are happy  for the abuse to continue.     

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