breadandcheese Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 Despite being at fault for both Ipswich's goals last night, I've been fairly impressed at the improvement that Matt Heath has shown in the past season and a half. Playing alongside players of the calibre of Keown can only be helping. Granted his positional play can be weak at times, but that will improve with experience. Basically, what I'm saying is that it shows what can happen when you play youngsters, despite the risk of them making mistakes. Heath was rubbish when he first started playing, but has improved no-end. If he continues to improve as he has, I can see him being a fixture in our team for a number of years (possible captain perhaps? was he captain at accdemy level or reserves), hopefully alongside Stearman. What do people think of Matty Heath at the moment? Well done Harry and Howard for dropping Dabizas. He is no better than Heath, is on massive wages, does not have an affinity to the club and has a fathead. Playing a youngster over underperformers to give them experience and aid their development is clearly cost-effective. At the moment, who should we drop for other youngsters? I think Makin for Canero (Makin's been looking suspect recently)
MON Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 Despite being at fault for both Ipswich's goals last night, I've been fairly impressed at the improvement that Matt Heath has shown in the past season and a half. Playing alongside players of the calibre of Keown can only be helping. Granted his positional play can be weak at times, but that will improve with experience.Basically, what I'm saying is that it shows what can happen when you play youngsters, despite the risk of them making mistakes. Heath was rubbish when he first started playing, but has improved no-end. If he continues to improve as he has, I can see him being a fixture in our team for a number of years (possible captain perhaps? was he captain at accdemy level or reserves), hopefully alongside Stearman. What do people think of Matty Heath at the moment? Well done Harry and Howard for dropping Dabizas. He is no better than Heath, is on massive wages, does not have an affinity to the club and has a fathead. Playing a youngster over underperformers to give them experience and aid their development is clearly cost-effective. At the moment, who should we drop for other youngsters? I think Makin for Canero (Makin's been looking suspect recently) 27908[/snapback] I do not agree about Heath, he will never be good enough. According to Petrescu he wasn't even that good for the academy. I think the defence should be Elliot and Keown, with the young legs of Stewart and Canero helping out, for pace.
breadandcheese Posted 20 October 2004 Author Posted 20 October 2004 I do not agree about Heath, he will never be good enough. According to Petrescu he wasn't even that good for the academy. I think the defence should be Elliot and Keown, with the young legs of Stewart and Canero helping out, for pace. 27910[/snapback] Are you honestly suggesting that you would trust the "young legs of Stewart". He may be quick, but he would not be the pace I would rely on at the back
MON Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 I do not agree about Heath, he will never be good enough. According to Petrescu he wasn't even that good for the academy. I think the defence should be Elliot and Keown, with the young legs of Stewart and Canero helping out, for pace. 27910[/snapback] Are you honestly suggesting that you would trust the "young legs of Stewart". He may be quick, but he would not be the pace I would rely on at the back 27913[/snapback] Yes, Stewart has the potential, but for some reason never showed it much under adams. When he first broke onto the scene, some people were saying he was the answer to england left hand side.
Anish Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 I think Heath is a decent centre back. I would like to see him in the team ahead of Elliott and Dabizas - both of them have had their best days behind them. Heath is a Leicester lad through and through, and you could see how much his goal meant to him. I think he'll only improve with time, and he certainly does need to work on his distribution side of the game.
Scow Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 I don't think Heath will ever be good enough for the top level, if we get there of course. He's useful at this level, but for all his height and stature, he's not commanding enough for me. He get's bullied far too easily by strikers. He's also very quiet and often looks nervous. Not ideal attributes for a captain. His distribution is usually quite poor. It results from a lack of technical ability. He tends to panic and make ungainly clearances that put us under pressure. However, I will say that he's played well in the last two games under Bassett/Wilkinson. He looks alot more solid alongisde Keown than that liability Dabizas. If he continues to play like that, I won't have many worries. Ultimately, I don't think Heath will be good enough. Championship player at best.
Ric Flair Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 I personally think that Heath is being carried by Keown. Heath had a decent season the last time we were in this league and I expected him to push on and get better, Adams farmed him out and then he came back and walked in to the first team. He looked shady last season alongside Dabizas, but who wouldn't! I just think this level is about his limit and perhaps we should see if we can get any takers for him. I want Stearman to be given the chance, I know he's only 17 but he deserves a chance after the performances he's put in for the reserves and England under 17/18's. Develop him and we could have one of the best center halves in the country.
King Kyle lcfc Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 I like matt Heath and hoofs original point is right he's improved alot since first cummin onto the scene i believe that was against ipswich 2 years ago not sure tho. Last night i think it showed in his performance that he lacks confidence in pressman and that o.g was just plain weird. Atleast he's scorin at the right end for us. Elliott and keown centre backs. Heath and connolly up front!
MON Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 I like matt Heath and hoofs original point is right he's improved alot since first cummin onto the scene i believe that was against ipswich 2 years ago not sure tho. Last night i think it showed in his performance that he lacks confidence in pressman and that o.g was just plain weird. Atleast he's scorin at the right end for us. Elliott and keown centre backs. Heath and connolly up front! 27949[/snapback] He played first in Taylors last game in charge, against Charltron away. He was nothing special and never will be.
Ash Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 I don't think Heath will ever be good enough for the top level, if we get there of course. He's useful at this level, but for all his height and stature, he's not commanding enough for me. He get's bullied far too easily by strikers. He's also very quiet and often looks nervous. Not ideal attributes for a captain. His distribution is usually quite poor. It results from a lack of technical ability. He tends to panic and make ungainly clearances that put us under pressure. However, I will say that he's played well in the last two games under Bassett/Wilkinson. He looks alot more solid alongisde Keown than that liability Dabizas. If he continues to play like that, I won't have many worries. Ultimately, I don't think Heath will be good enough. Championship player at best. 27931[/snapback] I agree totally Scowy
Mark Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 According to Petrescu he wasn't even that good for the academy. 27910[/snapback] Cant for the life of me remember saying that one.
MON Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 According to Petrescu he wasn't even that good for the academy. 27910[/snapback] Cant for the life of me remember saying that one. 27982[/snapback] You said, in the adams dispute about bringing youngsters into the team, when someone said he had brought heath in:- "Heath was not special like Stearman, and adams did not bring Heath into the team, it was Taylor who gave him the chance. Therefore adams cannot say it was him that played heath in the first team.
Mark Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 According to Petrescu he wasn't even that good for the academy. 27910[/snapback] Cant for the life of me remember saying that one. 27982[/snapback] You said, in the adams dispute about bringing youngsters into the team, when someone said he had brought heath in:- "Heath was not special like Stearman, and adams did not bring Heath into the team, it was Taylor who gave him the chance. Therefore adams cannot say it was him that played heath in the first team. 27996[/snapback] I know. Where does that say Heath wasnt good for the Academy? Stearman has been brilliant, i didnt watch Heath for the academy that was before i started going, must be 5 years ago now. Saw him in the reserves and he wasnt outstanding nor was he when he first came into the team but he's done well since them Premiership days. Scores goals for a defender but his defending is questionable as is his passing.
MON Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 According to Petrescu he wasn't even that good for the academy. 27910[/snapback] Cant for the life of me remember saying that one. 27982[/snapback] You said, in the adams dispute about bringing youngsters into the team, when someone said he had brought heath in:- "Heath was not special like Stearman, and adams did not bring Heath into the team, it was Taylor who gave him the chance. Therefore adams cannot say it was him that played heath in the first team. 27996[/snapback] I know. Where does that say Heath wasnt good for the Academy? Stearman has been brilliant, i didnt watch Heath for the academy that was before i started going, must be 5 years ago now. 27998[/snapback] i didnt say wasnt good, i said wasnt that good, meaning nothing special like stearman.
filbertway Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 I rate heath, he rarely makes mistakes ( not counting last night ) and i reckon he plays solidly through out. But hey thats my opinion
Sparky Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 heath isnt a footballer , there are certain players who get carried by the rest of the team . if heath left city he would be playing for shepshed or someone like that - a good example is stef oakes who i belive is now playin for rothley imps !
Scow Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 heath isnt a footballer , there are certain players who get carried by the rest of the team . if heath left city he would be playing for shepshed or someone like that - a good example is stef oakes who i belive is now playin for rothley imps ! 28020[/snapback] Really? Might have to pop down and see him play as it's only up the road. ::
Cobbo Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 heath isnt a footballer , there are certain players who get carried by the rest of the team . if heath left city he would be playing for shepshed or someone like that - a good example is stef oakes who i belive is now playin for rothley imps ! 28020[/snapback] Really? Might have to pop down and see him play as it's only up the road. :: 28043[/snapback] I thought Oakes was at Notts County this season? Maybe near the bottom of the football league but not quite Rothley!
Oli Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 He is playing for Notts County, he scored the other week.
Mark Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 He is playing for Notts County, he scored the other week. 28184[/snapback] Hasnt scored for 3 years. Free kick against Spurs
Oli Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 I swear he scored the other week, must of set one up then.
Scow Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 heath isnt a footballer , there are certain players who get carried by the rest of the team . if heath left city he would be playing for shepshed or someone like that - a good example is stef oakes who i belive is now playin for rothley imps ! 28020[/snapback] Really? Might have to pop down and see him play as it's only up the road. :: 28043[/snapback] I thought Oakes was at Notts County this season? Maybe near the bottom of the football league but not quite Rothley! 28183[/snapback] His brother Scott Oakes then?
Mark Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 heath isnt a footballer , there are certain players who get carried by the rest of the team . if heath left city he would be playing for shepshed or someone like that - a good example is stef oakes who i belive is now playin for rothley imps ! 28020[/snapback] Really? Might have to pop down and see him play as it's only up the road. :: 28043[/snapback] I thought Oakes was at Notts County this season? Maybe near the bottom of the football league but not quite Rothley! 28183[/snapback] His brother Scott Oakes then? 28195[/snapback] He does play for them actually.
Cobbo Posted 20 October 2004 Posted 20 October 2004 heath isnt a footballer , there are certain players who get carried by the rest of the team . if heath left city he would be playing for shepshed or someone like that - a good example is stef oakes who i belive is now playin for rothley imps ! 28020[/snapback] Really? Might have to pop down and see him play as it's only up the road. :: 28043[/snapback] I thought Oakes was at Notts County this season? Maybe near the bottom of the football league but not quite Rothley! 28183[/snapback] His brother Scott Oakes then? 28195[/snapback] He does play for them actually. 28197[/snapback] aha! I remember him! Obviously not that well Apologies for doubting you Sparky!
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