Nightmare on Ebay

[Fez of Mahrez]

Right..

I put my phone up for sale on Ebay, Paypal only - a guy (500-odd thingies, 98.3% feedback) matched the Buy It Now price straight away and asked for payment details. I sent him an invoice and he kept on emailing back asking what my postal address was so he could send payment. I repeatedly replied saying that I wanted payment via Paypal only at which point he changed his tune and said that he had sent payment and had I sent the phone yet. He asked this about five times and I still received no payment via Paypal and had not sent him my postal address so I filed a dispute. He has now sent five angry messages demanding that I close the dispute and send him the phone as he has already sent payment. Tellingly though, he also asked me to confirm my postal address so that he knew he had sent payment to the right place!!! Yeah right.

Am I missing something or is he just trying to con me? I am determined to stick to my guns on this one as I don't see how he can claim to have paid me without me giving my postal address.

[Katy]

Right..

I put my phone up for sale on Ebay, Paypal only - a guy (500-odd thingies, 98.3% feedback) matched the Buy It Now price straight away and asked for payment details. I sent him an invoice and he kept on emailing back asking what my postal address was so he could send payment. I repeatedly replied saying that I wanted payment via Paypal only at which point he changed his tune and said that he had sent payment and had I sent the phone yet. He asked this about five times and I still received no payment via Paypal and had not sent him my postal address so I filed a dispute. He has now sent five angry messages demanding that I close the dispute and send him the phone as he has already sent payment. Tellingly though, he also asked me to confirm my postal address so that he knew he had sent payment to the right place!!! Yeah right.

Am I missing something or is he just trying to con me? I am determined to stick to my guns on this one as I don't see how he can claim to have paid me without me giving my postal address.

Hes trying it on buddy! Carry on with the dispute and send all correspondence you get from him to ebay

[The People's Hero]

Right..

I put my phone up for sale on Ebay, Paypal only - a guy (500-odd thingies, 98.3% feedback) matched the Buy It Now price straight away and asked for payment details. I sent him an invoice and he kept on emailing back asking what my postal address was so he could send payment. I repeatedly replied saying that I wanted payment via Paypal only at which point he changed his tune and said that he had sent payment and had I sent the phone yet. He asked this about five times and I still received no payment via Paypal and had not sent him my postal address so I filed a dispute. He has now sent five angry messages demanding that I close the dispute and send him the phone as he has already sent payment. Tellingly though, he also asked me to confirm my postal address so that he knew he had sent payment to the right place!!! Yeah right.

Am I missing something or is he just trying to con me? I am determined to stick to my guns on this one as I don't see how he can claim to have paid me without me giving my postal address.

Stick to your guns.

I had some tos ser do this to me overly some concert tickets. Suffice to say, they are now banned from ebay.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Cheers boys and girls. I presumed this was the case, it was just the guy's positive feedback and volume of Ebay usage that made me think twice.

Makes me so angry and puts me off using Ebay. It's just a free upgrade phone that I don't want, I didn't even ask that much for it as just wanted an easy sale and a bit of spare cash. Nobber.

[The People's Hero]

I've been dealing with someone on there so is just as helpful and chirpy as myself (on ebay you understand). It's a joy to 'waste' my money on his wares!

[IDEA OR IKEA]

Cheers boys and girls. I presumed this was the case, it was just the guy's positive feedback and volume of Ebay usage that made me think twice.

Makes me so angry and puts me off using Ebay. It's just a free upgrade phone that I don't want, I didn't even ask that much for it as just wanted an easy sale and a bit of spare cash. Nobber.

My mate was selling a jumper on e-bay. Put it on for but it now price of £30 which someone snapped up (it was DKNY or something). He was accepting all payment so they said they had sent a cheque. A few days later a cheque arrives but not for £30 but for £2,000. He contacted them thinking they had sent it wrong (although it had his name on!). They told him to cash it, withdraw the money take the £30 out and they would come round for the other £1,970. He told the police and they investigated it, he was worried they would come round. The cheque was also written from a different name with who he had been given the address to send the jumper to. The police apparently caught them and he has heard nothing since, but hes still a bit jumpy when the door bell goes!

He does not use it anymore

[macbeth]

My mate was selling a jumper on e-bay. Put it on for but it now price of £30 which someone snapped up (it was DKNY or something). He was accepting all payment so they said they had sent a cheque. A few days later a cheque arrives but not for £30 but for £2,000. He contacted them thinking they had sent it wrong (although it had his name on!). They told him to cash it, withdraw the money take the £30 out and they would come round for the other £1,970. He told the police and they investigated it, he was worried they would come round. The cheque was also written from a different name with who he had been given the address to send the jumper to. The police apparently caught them and he has heard nothing since, but hes still a bit jumpy when the door bell goes!

He does not use it anymore

selling jumpers makes you jumpy

[Dr The Singh]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/06/ebay_refund/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/31/ebay_laptop_site/

Articles:

Vigilante eBayer obtains refund in person

Do not mess with this man - or his mates

By Lester HainesPublished Tuesday 6th June 2006 11:14 GMTFind your perfect job - click here for thousands of tech vacancies. Here's a cautionary tale for anyone thinking of messing around certain UK eBay vendors: do so at your peril, as the following transcript of a bulletin board posting shows. Certain details have been deleted/altered:

eBay, PayPal & one dim witted thicko eBayer

How we got our money back & filmed it all happening. (This is 100% true and was legal)

In Jan this year my brother sold a mobile handset that had never been used on eBay [the place we all love to hate]. The guy paid within 15 mins and lives in XXXX which is about 35 mins up the XXXX from here. Item sent via Royal Mail signed for the next day. Two weeks later this guy states in an email he has never rec'd item. I chase up with Royal Mail who kindly informed me 2 days later the item was rejected and is on it's way back to XXXX. I called the buyer on his landline number I acquired from his eBay details and asked what was going on.

He told me barefaced lies that Royal Mail had never shown up and he had waited long enough. I told him that he signed the form as unrequested parcel and to return to sender. On checking his eBay feedback [17 and 100%] he had purchased the same handset from someone in XXXX [5 miles from XXXX, how lucky ] for a £10.00 +p+p two days after purchasing from my brother. The guy who sold the handset in XXXX had an item for sale and I mailed him asking could I collect & pay & he said yes.

I did so and gained my opportunity to hopefully find out about this guy who bought the mobile from my brother. When I arrived and told him the story he tells me that the guy advised PayPal the goods were damaged and claimed his money back.

I contacted PayPal and also phoned the buyer and advised him of my course of action if he did not pay for the goods. He put the phone down on me [bad move on his part] so I arranged for my good self and 4 personnel who work the doors in XXXX and surrounding areas a trip to sunny XXXX starting out at 6.30 am. I intended nailing this bastard 100%.

We arrived at this guys house and not knowing what he looked like but I did know his voice asked a few neighbours who told us he did not work and advised us of what he looked like. This all ended up on film from my car [a bit like Roger Cook this lot] and this guy came out of his house to get into his old [car]. Myself and 3 acquaintances approached him and he looked rather pale to say the least when I announced who I was and told him about the other eBayer I had been in contact with. My 3 'henchmen' are all over 6'3" and the lightest one is nearly 18 stone, and my mate of many years XXXX advised him we aint leaving until goods are paid for, our time and the fuel costs involved and how nice of us it was to bring the parcel which remained unopened so that he would not feel 'hard done' by. This guy literally shit blue bricks and on a good day probably weighed about 11.5 stone so it was no competition.

This guy was taken to the local cash machine in central XXXX [by the way parking is shite in XXXX city centre] and made him withdraw the cash. Not being an easy man to please when someone tries to take the piss I advised him to contact eBay and get the negative comments removed and I would do the same. This was sorted about two weeks later by eBay.

We had a good day out and ventured up to the XXXX for the rest of the day. A cracking pub lunch.

For eBayers there is PayPal, for thicko eBayers thinking they are having me or my brother over there's no chance. The look on XXXX's face - Priceless!

For those of you wondering whether our vigilante vendor was indeed acting within the law, he adds in a later comment:

I must say before I ventured out on that trip I did get legal advice on what I was doing and was told my actions were legal as I/we were personally persuing a debt collection in our own right.

Well, we'll leave it to the experts among you to decide the legality of advising the buyer that "we aint leaving until goods are paid for" until he's "shit blue bricks" and is then "taken to the local cash machine", but one thing is certain: this particular chancer would be well advised in future to sign for the parcel and stump up the cash

Police investigate angry eBayer's revenge site

[Anish]

Tip: If you only accept paypal as a method of payment, upgrade your paypal account to Premium (if you've not already done so - most people do this to accept credit/debit card payments from buyers anyway).

If you have 10 feedbacks or more - you can list your item as a buy-it-now with immediate payment. This means that if somebody wants to buy the item they will need to pay for it immediately via paypal. If they don't - your listing continues until somebody does buy and pay immediately.

This way you don't end up with morons like this buyer - you get the money straight away.

Obviously the downside is that you can only do this if you accept paypal only - and with a premium paypal account they take a small cut of everything that comes into your account.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Haha just checked my Paypal account and he has finally paid me for the bloody thing! I feel like waiting 10 weeks to send it but I don't want any more hassle so I'm just gonna send it as soon as.

There is a god after all. Still, what a ****.

[Katy]

Haha just checked my Paypal account and he has finally paid me for the bloody thing! I feel like waiting 10 weeks to send it but I don't want any more hassle so I'm just gonna send it as soon as.

There is a god after all. Still, what a ****.

Indeed! It's amazing what reporting someone does. Some people like to see if they can manipulate newer members or people they think they can pull a fast one with. Neg him!!!!!

[Daggers]

I've just cancelled my Ebay & Paypal account because of a non-ending stream of abuse from some Celtic supporting tw*t.

I bought and received a Subbuteo cup. After 10 days I wrote a nice and jolly little email asking if he could leave me some feedback as I had been so lovely

That's when this twisted ****er started a hate campaign by email.

In the end it stopped when I replied to everyone of his emails with a standard email stating that all mail was being forwarded unread to my solicitor.

Mental!

I am looking forward to using the old fashioned way of doing things - I'm going to go to shops more

[Rincewind]

With the Paypal upgrade do you have to have a Direct Debit into paypal? I have only bought things never sold anything. I am not a regular user of Ebay. I bought some books recently and all have arrived pretty quickly. (think I'm waiting for one after just over a week) One even came the following day (Sat) after confirming the order Friday Morning. I always leave a positive feedback. Not had problems so far. The one I'm waiting for emailed me to apologise for the delay after I had left feedback before receiving the book. I did about four at once and that was one of them.