Daggers Posted 14 July 2006 Posted 14 July 2006 Aston Villa's players have criticised chairman Doug Ellis for a lack of ambition at the club. Living in the middle of the place I feel a little bit sorry for the fans ~ Ellis has to be one of the worst blokes in footy at this moment in time [Ronaldo notwithstanding ]
Maybes Posted 14 July 2006 Posted 14 July 2006 Aston Villa's players have criticised chairman Doug Ellis for a lack of ambition at the club. Living in the middle of the place I feel a little bit sorry for the fans ~ Ellis has to be one of the worst blokes in footy at this moment in time [Ronaldo notwithstanding ] He just and utter fool. Does he ever get on with any manager?? However the last few managers at villa have not been the best to be fair to him!
Jay Posted 15 July 2006 Posted 15 July 2006 He just and utter fool. Does he ever get on with any manager?? However the last few managers at villa have not been the best to be fair to him! well after give O'dreary close to £20million last season to see him spend it on sh it!! no wonder he doesn't want to give him anymore money!! I hate Villa fans I think they are the biggest bunch of moaners around!! yes they won the European Cup in 1982 but Ellis has always supported managers with transfer funds Gregory alone spent around £70million in transfers during his time in charge
Janx Posted 15 July 2006 Posted 15 July 2006 well after give O'dreary close to £20million last season to see him spend it on sh it!! no wonder he doesn't want to give him anymore money!! I hate Villa fans I think they are the biggest bunch of moaners around!! yes they won the European Cup in 1982 but Ellis has always supported managers with transfer funds Gregory alone spent around £70million in transfers during his time in charge Agreed Villa would be nowhere without the Deadly one! Odreary is a C0ch of gargantuum proportions...unlike mine!
macbeth Posted 15 July 2006 Posted 15 July 2006 well after give O'dreary close to £20million last season to see him spend it on sh it!! no wonder he doesn't want to give him anymore money!! I hate Villa fans I think they are the biggest bunch of moaners around!! yes they won the European Cup in 1982 but Ellis has always supported managers with transfer funds Gregory alone spent around £70million in transfers during his time in charge bang on i'm in the same dug-out as deadly on this one as well ; too many managers /players /agents/ assorted hangers-on etc think its a bottomless pit and rob the real supporters he's right to rein in the free spending ..........hope some other chaimen do the same..........pompey will blow a pile and never get any sucess
Ultra Posted 16 July 2006 Posted 16 July 2006 well after give O'dreary close to £20million last season to see him spend it on sh it!! no wonder he doesn't want to give him anymore money!! I hate Villa fans I think they are the biggest bunch of moaners around!! yes they won the European Cup in 1982 ..when Ellis was not in charge of the club. Apparently he refuses to give ANY credit whatsoever to the players involved, or acknowledge their success. He seems an absolute lowlife. I'm glad he's nowhere near OUR club!
Janx Posted 17 July 2006 Posted 17 July 2006 ..when Ellis was not in charge of the club. Apparently he refuses to give ANY credit whatsoever to the players involved, or acknowledge their success. He seems an absolute lowlife. I'm glad he's nowhere near OUR club! Why is he a lowlife, he sacks crap managers and asks them what they are going to achieve with the cash he gives them..?? If I was in their position I would expect to get booted, and frankly he sticks by them most of the time, amazing what the press can do to ones image... OK so he's a bit of a hard, curmudgeonly bar steward, but they would be off to DIv 2 without his investment.. By the way I hate Villa.
Ultra Posted 17 July 2006 Posted 17 July 2006 Wishful thinking I'm afraid. They are by some distance the biggest club in the midlands, with average gates of 35000+. They'll survive quite comfortably after he leaves. As with Newcastle, Villa have the habit of turning decent managers into bad ones. It's absurd to suggest that Ellis should bear no responsibility for Villa's consistent underachievement.
Daggers Posted 17 July 2006 Author Posted 17 July 2006 They are all as bad as each other and I have a touch of sympathy for the supporters, seeing as everyone around us supports them! Doug has lobbed some money in ~ but the whole community hates him and he doesn't court friends. O'Leary is an abject fool with less talent spotting ability than Sharon Osbourne. The players are a disgrace for going to the media. It is their job to shut up, take the money and play. The whole thing is symptomatic of a big club in deep crisis ~ and someone has to do something before the season kicks off or they'll be looking relegation in the eyes for the next eleven months.
Daggers Posted 17 July 2006 Author Posted 17 July 2006 Villa Players Demand Meeting With Chairman My money is on O'Leary orchestrating his own departure. I bet this is all being whipped up by him so that he can be sacked and take severance pay ... like he got millions from Leeds.
Head Honcho Posted 17 July 2006 Posted 17 July 2006 Let's be honest Ellis has been like this for years. They may be justified but why did they sign for Villa in the first place if they knew what he was like?
Daggers Posted 17 July 2006 Author Posted 17 July 2006 Let's be honest Ellis has been like this for years. They may be justified but why did they sign for Villa in the first place if they knew what he was like? ... hmm ... let me think for a minute ...
Northants Fox Posted 18 July 2006 Posted 18 July 2006 Villa Players Demand Meeting With Chairman My money is on O'Leary orchestrating his own departure. I bet this is all being whipped up by him so that he can be sacked and take severance pay ... like he got millions from Leeds. Funny you should say that, i've just read the back page of the Mirror and it says that Ellis believes he has justification to sack O'Leary who he's blaming for a player revolt that begain last Friday. He want's to replace him with Curbishley.
Dr The Singh Posted 18 July 2006 Posted 18 July 2006 What a sham, Villa has alopt of potential but mis-management and poor signings hs resulted in Ellis being a even tighter cooont!!!
Northants Fox Posted 18 July 2006 Posted 18 July 2006 This is going to come as a really horrid thing to say but imo the best thing that could happen to Villa is if Ellis dropped down dead tomorrow I DON'T WISH IT ON ANYBODY
Daggers Posted 18 July 2006 Author Posted 18 July 2006 Funny you should say that, i've just read the back page of the Mirror and it says that Ellis believes he has justification to sack O'Leary who he's blaming for a player revolt that begain last Friday. He want's to replace him with Curbishley. Yeh, I heard similar today ~ and it may be that O'leary has been too clever for his boots this time. If anyone says 'this was leaked to us by him' or the players accuse him on mass of using them then he has burned his contractual bridges leaving Doug to boot him for free. A very odd set of circumstances though. Very odd.
Babylon Posted 18 July 2006 Posted 18 July 2006 It's absurd to suggest that Ellis should bear no responsibility for Villa's consistent underachievement. He is just a poor judge of manager it's as simple as that. Over the years if you look at the stats villa have been one of the biggest spending teams. The problem is the money he has given them has been wasted on complete and utter shite!!!! Apart from this year he has always backed the manager with cash. (6m for Baros last year, plus 5mil for some defender he never bloody plays) At the moment they are paying for the manager and player mistakes as you can't keep buying players for 5-7million and then getting rid for 1-2million a season later. Especially when they probably walk away with a nice cash settlement, same goes for the managers they are still paying off.
Ultra Posted 18 July 2006 Posted 18 July 2006 Players will be spoken to in the inquiry, conducted by operations director Steve Stride and non-executive directors David Owen and Steven Kind. Hmm, could this be the same Steve Kind who left us under a cloud when we went into administration?
Daggers Posted 19 July 2006 Author Posted 19 July 2006 My money is on O'Leary orchestrating his own departure. I bet this is all being whipped up by him so that he can be sacked and take severance pay ... like he got millions from Leeds. I stride the planet like a God!
breadandcheese Posted 20 July 2006 Posted 20 July 2006 He is just a poor judge of manager it's as simple as that. Over the years if you look at the stats villa have been one of the biggest spending teams. The problem is the money he has given them has been wasted on complete and utter shite!!!! Apart from this year he has always backed the manager with cash. (6m for Baros last year, plus 5mil for some defender he never bloody plays) At the moment they are paying for the manager and player mistakes as you can't keep buying players for 5-7million and then getting rid for 1-2million a season later. Especially when they probably walk away with a nice cash settlement, same goes for the managers they are still paying off. I don't like Ellis but I'm glad someone else thinks he gets too much undeserved flak. When underperforming players on big contracts are questioning the ambition of a chairman (rather than questioning themselves), I think that takes the biscuit. If you look at the Premier League, most of the clubs outside the top 5 have large debts and nyone could go under in the event of a season or two in trouble. Villa are not in that same position. For that, Ellis deserves some sort of grudging respect.
Ultra Posted 20 July 2006 Posted 20 July 2006 Why? They're favourites for the drop. Do you really think he'll stay around to cover their losses if they go down? The players and the fans are in no doubt about who's to blame for the club's current plight. If our midfield could pass a ball as well as he can pass the buck, we'd walk the league!
Daggers Posted 20 July 2006 Author Posted 20 July 2006 I don't like Ellis but I'm glad someone else thinks he gets too much undeserved flak. When underperforming players on big contracts are questioning the ambition of a chairman (rather than questioning themselves), I think that takes the biscuit. If you look at the Premier League, most of the clubs outside the top 5 have large debts and nyone could go under in the event of a season or two in trouble. Villa are not in that same position. For that, Ellis deserves some sort of grudging respect. Yup, you're right I guess ~ they aren't in debt and they have spent money on players ... but they were the wrong players bought by the wrong manager. You can't help but smile at their plight tho, eh?
breadandcheese Posted 20 July 2006 Posted 20 July 2006 Why? They're favourites for the drop. Do you really think he'll stay around to cover their losses if they go down? The players and the fans are in no doubt about who's to blame for the club's current plight. If our midfield could pass a ball as well as he can pass the buck, we'd walk the league! I do think if Villa went down, Ellis would stay, unless forced out by fans harassing him. It is all very good players on huge wages, taking Villa's money, underperforming and then blaming Ellis for not helping the club. The players could take a cut in wages to enable Villa to bring in another player, but no, ambition for medals, loyalty to a club, takes second place to money. Not blaming them for that, but they should not complain, when clubs do not have enough money to sign more players. The fans are in no doubt, but their claims are mostly over-exaggerated. Villa do and have spent money. Maybe they haven't got any this season, but would they rather Ellis gambled with large debts. Villa are one of the favourites for the drop, but fact is, if they get the right man in, there are far worse teams.
breadandcheese Posted 20 July 2006 Posted 20 July 2006 Yup, you're right I guess ~ they aren't in debt and they have spent money on players ... but they were the wrong players bought by the wrong manager. You can't help but smile at their plight tho, eh? Believe me, it is great to see Villa struggling.
Ultra Posted 20 July 2006 Posted 20 July 2006 Why? I'm not thrilled at the prospect of having to do battle with yet ANOTHER big club in the lower leagues. It'll reduce our hopes of promotion still further!
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