What a rip off

[Thracian]

Thrach

There isn't one of us who wouldn't want to see Leicester win playing free flowing attacking football week in week out.

What it appears to me though is that due to the present position of the club, I'm sort of having a guess that we don't quite have the personnel on board or the resources to employ them.

As such, I'm with the people that will accept scrappy wins for the time being because as sure as eggs is eggs, if we carry on winning, the uphill task of attracting more support through the doors (and all the by-products including new players) will be well under way.

Your contentions of how we have played such enllightened football unfortunately struggle to hold much credence with me at the moment because we've done it against a team of part timers plying their trade in non league football and the club currently sat at the bottom of what is Division Four, having just a solitary point for their efforts.

There is nothing wrong with hoping for better things but accept our limitations and accept the confines within which we presently have to operate.

I'm sorry Hullfox but I'm disinclined to accept anything about Leicester City right now except a commitment to continued improvement.

I'm pleased to see people like O'Grady and Porter in the team, I'm pleased to see us playing with wingers and I'm pleased to see results improving after the misery of seeing our team being overloaded with defenders.

I now look forward to seeing other players like Logan, Gradel and Dodds making their impression plus the likes of Andy King and Ashley Chambers after that.

I wait for the light to shine over Leicester once more and the day when fans remember the dourness of hoof football and say, good riddance. Welcome to the new dawn.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Can't be arsed to wade through the post to quote it properly but Thracian - "Whoever said Kenton was an attacking full-back I'd suggest he auditions quickly for something in comedy. Stearman showed more inititative in a few minutes than Kenton did all game."

How many times? Stearman came on as a right winger. And as for Kenton, he didn't put a foot wrong all game. When you've got oil tankers like Andy Johnson supposedly protecting the back four, you need to concentrate on defending and worry about getting forward secondarily. When Kenton did get forward he looked a damn sight more attacking and creative than pretty much anyone else in the side in the first half.

Having said all that, watching Johansson and Tiatto's performances yesterday I can see why you have wanted Sheehan and Porter in the side so desperately. Yesterday was the final straw for me where those two are concerned.

I agree it was a dire performance and I cannot see the justification for the continued inclusion of Johansson and Tiatto. As Knighton Matt pointed out during the game, it's like (and I quote) "a neverending circle of shit" e.g. one of them gets the ball and quite often the only outlet is the other one. I couldn't believe some of the positions Tiatto was taking up and to top it all off at one point we attacked down the left and he went and stood off the pitch until the ball went down the other side! It was beyond belief. The warning signs are there. We won't beat many teams with performances like that. Hopefully Kelly will be big enough to admit he got it wrong, regardless of the result.

One thing I can't agree with is the overeffusive praise for O'Grady. He seems to play the man rather the ball every single time and his mere presence in the team invites Johansson and McCarthy to hoof the ball at every opportunity. He was winning a few headers but Fryatt wasn't quick enough to get on the end of them. If you insist on playing O'Grady then Hume is the natural partner but if we had a proper midfield rather than a one-legged pirate, a stick-thin disappearing act, my Dad and Jennifer Lopez then you'd play Fryatt because he is a class act.

[Jon the Hat]

Some good points in this thread, and I'm inclined to agree with Thracian. For me, any game where you are not improving is a missed opportunity. We are on limited resources at the moment, but we DO have players in and around the team who can play, not necessarily all the time and with the consistency we might like, but can pass and create the type of football we'd all love to see.

Let's be realistic, and say we don't expect to be challenging for promotion this season. We also shouldn't be expecting to be in a relegation dog fight (we never should have last season either). That being the case I'm of the view that we are wasting our time not playing our future players, helping them develop and building a side that can get us promoted in the future.

so we got three points, that's good, but our record so far this season would imply that we are just as likely to lose playing defensively as playing an attacking game. So why would you choose the negative option?? Let's give the youngsters as many opportunities as possible to show us what they can do. It can only help them improve.

Bring it on!!

[Hullfox]

I wait for the light to shine over Leicester once more and the day when fans remember the dourness of hoof football and say, good riddance. Welcome to the new dawn.

Tonight Matthew, I'm going to be Stuart Hall..............

[Ric Flair]

I have to agree it was turgid to say the least. But the main plus point was that we have managed to be capable of grinding out results against teams like Southend where in previous seasons we'd have lost 1-0. I know it shouldn't really be like that and it's blatantly obvious that we'd win more games if we sent out a positive team each game.

Nils has got to go, i'm hoping to dear god that a premiership club is fooled in to making a deadline day bid for him this week. The man was dreadful on saturday and with Tiatto in front of him it was as enjoyable as a terminal illness. Porter showed exactly how to play positive football without losing shape and losing the battle to defend aswell as attack. He highlighted this by tracking back a good 50 yards and winning the ball back before making a decisive pass that led to a counter attack. Tiatto isn't as bad as he was last season, but with the form Porter's showing and the un-reliability on Tiatto's fitness then it's a no brainer who should be first choice.

Hughes is still flattering to deceive, wincing out of challenges and half heartedly supporting the attackers. Thankfully Maybury isn't anywhere near the first team but I fear it's only a matter of time. Low had his quietest game for us and that won't have gone un-noticed, players like he (who aren't one of the chosen men) get shipped straight out when they don't tear up the opposition. Having said that, I don't believe he's the best player for the right wing spot anyway.

Fryatt is severaly struggling and we need to find a way of playing him, Hume and the OGmonster. I think the best way for that is to set up with 3 very mobile midfielders (Wesolowski, Williams/Hughes, Porter) and then have Fryatt as a concentrated centre forward with O'Grady and Hume unsettling the defences by pushing out wide if need be and constantly playing through balls to Fryatt and giving him opportunities to score.

[Thracian]

I have to agree it was turgid to say the least. But the main plus point was that we have managed to be capable of grinding out results against teams like Southend where in previous seasons we'd have lost 1-0. I know it shouldn't really be like that and it's blatantly obvious that we'd win more games if we sent out a positive team each game.

Nils has got to go, i'm hoping to dear god that a premiership club is fooled in to making a deadline day bid for him this week. The man was dreadful on saturday and with Tiatto in front of him it was as enjoyable as a terminal illness. Porter showed exactly how to play positive football without losing shape and losing the battle to defend aswell as attack. He highlighted this by tracking back a good 50 yards and winning the ball back before making a decisive pass that led to a counter attack. Tiatto isn't as bad as he was last season, but with the form Porter's showing and the un-reliability on Tiatto's fitness then it's a no brainer who should be first choice.

Hughes is still flattering to deceive, wincing out of challenges and half heartedly supporting the attackers. Thankfully Maybury isn't anywhere near the first team but I fear it's only a matter of time. Low had his quietest game for us and that won't have gone un-noticed, players like he (who aren't one of the chosen men) get shipped straight out when they don't tear up the opposition. Having said that, I don't believe he's the best player for the right wing spot anyway.

Fryatt is severaly struggling and we need to find a way of playing him, Hume and the OGmonster. I think the best way for that is to set up with 3 very mobile midfielders (Wesolowski, Williams/Hughes, Porter) and then have Fryatt as a concentrated centre forward with O'Grady and Hume unsettling the defences by pushing out wide if need be and constantly playing through balls to Fryatt and giving him opportunities to score.

You mention the grinding out of results from games we would have lost last season and one of the big reasons I believe we could do better this season is that it won't be so easy for the massed defences to keep us out if Kelly keeps attacking.

That's because with people like Porter, O'Grady, Wesolowski and Low/Gradel we have far more players capable of playing ground passes to unlock such barriers.

Let that gang plus Hume and Fryatt get among anyone and they won't stay waterproof for long.

[Knighton Matt]

Can't be arsed to wade through the post to quote it properly but Thracian - "Whoever said Kenton was an attacking full-back I'd suggest he auditions quickly for something in comedy. Stearman showed more inititative in a few minutes than Kenton did all game."

How many times? Stearman came on as a right winger. And as for Kenton, he didn't put a foot wrong all game. When you've got oil tankers like Andy Johnson supposedly protecting the back four, you need to concentrate on defending and worry about getting forward secondarily. When Kenton did get forward he looked a damn sight more attacking and creative than pretty much anyone else in the side in the first half.

Having said all that, watching Johansson and Tiatto's performances yesterday I can see why you have wanted Sheehan and Porter in the side so desperately. Yesterday was the final straw for me where those two are concerned.

I agree it was a dire performance and I cannot see the justification for the continued inclusion of Johansson and Tiatto. As Knighton Matt pointed out during the game, it's like (and I quote) "a neverending circle of shit" e.g. one of them gets the ball and quite often the only outlet is the other one. I couldn't believe some of the positions Tiatto was taking up and to top it all off at one point we attacked down the left and he went and stood off the pitch until the ball went down the other side! It was beyond belief. The warning signs are there. We won't beat many teams with performances like that. Hopefully Kelly will be big enough to admit he got it wrong, regardless of the result.

One thing I can't agree with is the overeffusive praise for O'Grady. He seems to play the man rather the ball every single time and his mere presence in the team invites Johansson and McCarthy to hoof the ball at every opportunity. He was winning a few headers but Fryatt wasn't quick enough to get on the end of them. If you insist on playing O'Grady then Hume is the natural partner but if we had a proper midfield rather than a one-legged pirate, a stick-thin disappearing act, my Dad and Jennifer Lopez then you'd play Fryatt because he is a class act.

I'd never utter such profanities surely?!

[Floating Fox]

That's the only reasonable way to describe today's game. Functional footall. three points. A third clean sheet.

But about as entertaining and enterprising as watching a parade of pensioners.

Keep the Faith? What a joke.

Kelly showed no faith whatever but took our team back in time like he'd found the key to the Tardis.

I paid £29 for that shit and was rewarded with a 25 minute attempt at proper football.

I had to shout at Nils that we were playing in blue and the idea wasn't to pass alternatively between blue and red.

Whoever said Kenton was an attacking full-back I'd suggest he auditions quickly for something in comedy.

Stearman showed more inititative in a few minutes than Kenton did all game.

Hughes got himself into the box - a big plus - but he wouldn't have scored even if he'd been a monk in a convent.

The Chosen Men were what they've always been, boringly functional footballers. We could have gone a goal or two down and chance for chance it must have finished about even which is remarkable because Southend wouldn't compete with our best side.

In fact they didn't compete for a while when Levi came on - at least until they were presumably ordered into "hold on" mode by which time Hughes had squandered a chance my mother could have taken and Levi must have been thinking one of the "establishment" was trying to make him look like an arsehole.

That it finishied 1-0 means of course that Kelly will continue with more of the same bland and tasteless recipe instead of taking us to places we want to go.

Three players: Kisnorbo, O'Grady and Porter came out with credit. and I reckon City owe about £20 back to anyone who paid £29 to watch cos the rest was dire.

Best part of the day, apart from Kissa 's goal and Levi's tee-up was meeting The Singh cos he was always interesting and full of positive thoughts.

Does it really matter?! :pinch:

WE won, We got three points, we played good (well i thought so), there was a good Atmosphere.

And Another thing WTF did you pay 29 quid?

[Jon the Hat]

Does it really matter?! :pinch:

WE won, We got three points, we played good (well i thought so), there was a good Atmosphere.

And Another thing WTF did you pay 29 quid?

Is there any possibility whatsoever that you might read the whole thread to see why we think it matters?

[Ultra]

...or indeed why Thracian paid £29...

[Daggers]

Away for three games and nothing seems to have changed.

I think that we should just have three threads set up for wins, draws and loses where all posts are re-entered but the names of the teams are automatically changed.

It'll save everyone the trouble of posting the same stuff over and over...and save me the bother of scanning it for abuse. You know it makes sense

Although I am sure that Thracian's shoulders are more than big enough to bear the brickbats sent his way ~ please remember everyone 'let's be careful out there'

[Jon the Hat]

...or indeed why Thracian paid £29...

Think of it as £7 to charity...