What a rip off

[FNQ]

I paid £29 for that shit and was rewarded with a 25 minute attempt at proper football.

You absolute mug. How embarassing.

[Thracian]

And Tuesday's came was so much better?

I don't think so.

I didn't for a moment expect you would!.

[Guest]

I didn't for a moment expect you would!.

Of course , but not for the reasons you assume.

[Thracian]

You absolute mug. How embarassing.

It was worse. I treated a guest. It was the first game he'd been to in years and afterwards he understood why there ere so many empty seats.

[FNQ]

It was worse. I treated a guest. It was the first game he'd been to in years and afterwards he understood why there ere so many empty seats.

You idiot.

[Master Fox]

It was worse. I treated a guest. It was the first game he'd been to in years and afterwards he understood why there ere so many empty seats.

I've edited this post in respect to Thracian.

Ok, he’s views are somewhat controversial and he upsets a few people with his opinions but at the end of the day he's a true Leicester fan and that's good enough for me.

Thracian we salute you for your effort

[cisono]

Please no insulting members of this forum,

particularly senior members and

respected members of the forum like Thracian.

[Master Fox]

Please no insulting members of this forum,

particularly senior members and

respected members of the forum like Thracian.

Red raw

[lookwhaticando]

Please no insulting members of this forum,

particularly senior members and

respected members of the forum like Thracian.

Someone else has noticed the hatred aimed at certain members of the forum, then.

We're all supposedly fans of the same team. Yet over half the forum's posts these days consist of attacking the opinions of a particular person - or indeed, attacking the person himself/herself.

Shameful, really.

[bigneville]

I personally think Thracian has a lot of well argued points.

Some people may not agree with what he says but its a forum. Debate is the whole point.

So leave the big-man alone.

[Bluefoxtim]

jesus christ!

You moan if we play shit and you moan if we get a good result!

[Bluefoxtim]

The result was fine but the performance sold Leicester City shorter than Levi Porter. we're better than that, loads better but we picked a team that was never going to reproduce the passing and movement of Tuesday's game against Macclesfield, or anything like. If you're happy enjoy it, by all means but it just provides an excuse to persevere with the same formula. I'd prefer we were winning and demonstrating that we are developing some style. Don't expect me to be satisfied with functional victories cos I'm not.

But it was against macclesfield ...you have mentioned 4/5 players who you single out as not being good enough, but others will get their chance... the team isn't going to change if we get results is it?

The table shows points from scoring goals and winning games, this game ain't olympic diving, no points for technique.

As someone else mentioned, we won so who gives a shet

[Bluefoxtim]

and just who are the "chosen ones"? and what are the alternatives? let me guess

nils replaced by sheehan yawn

kenton replaced by stearman (replacing a solid in form defender with an out of form teenager)

hughes replaced by ???? an unfit wesolowski? an enigmatic williams??

tiatto replaced by a traffic cone!

Superb! I don't know why, but I can't stop laughing

[ithuriel]

minus points from the game , my point of view from a nice comfy seat high up in the stand

nissa cant pass for toffee and seems to be getting slower than i remembered him from last season

kenton while a decent defender cannot cross to save his life.

tiatto is a liability and it was a good job one of his tackles was so late it missed the player entirely

hughes reminds me of david oldfield. he can be good one game and crap another game.

andy johnson......what exactly is his role in the team??? from what ive seen thus far gareth williams is a better player.

plus points;

kisnorbo must be being watched by other clubs because he is showing that he is one of the best center halves in this division.

paddymac can have silly moments but he is a good partner for kisnorbo and defends well. he made one superb last ditch tackle during the second half that rightly got applauded.

o'grady really put himself about and was a pain for their defenders , still young and will get better with more games , should get better with more games

tiny little levi terrorised their defence and came back and defended well , lacked a little composure when shooting chances came his way but his first team appearances i can count on my fingers. if he learns to convert we will have a gem

from the looks of things a spell on the bench is helping stearman get his head together.

hume and fryatt are having a bit of a barren spell but we know they have the ability , maybe they just need some confidence boosting. im sure they will deliver

[Thracian]

But it was against macclesfield ...you have mentioned 4/5 players who you single out as not being good enough, but others will get their chance... the team isn't going to change if we get results is it?

The table shows points from scoring goals and winning games, this game ain't olympic diving, no points for technique.

As someone else mentioned, we won so who gives a shet

Don't ever tell Sir Alec that the team doesn't change if it gets results. The team changes any time if it gets better.

Points and technique are connected. Many on here go on about the standard of the opposition and our two wins plus a draw while welcome, have not come against the best opposition in this League so why wait for that fact to be demonstrated before we improve?.

Winning provides a cushion - the chance to seek further improvement with less risk.

And improve we must. We have to pass better, keep the ball longer, retain our shape, create more chances and then take them.

Winning is a start, not a conclusion.

[chesterfox]

Don't ever tell Sir Alec that the team doesn't change if it gets results. The team changes any time if it gets better.

Points and technique are connected. Many on here go on about the standard of the opposition and our two wins plus a draw while welcome, have not come against the best opposition in this League so why wait for that fact to be demonstrated before we improve?.

Winning provides a cushion - the chance to seek further improvement with less risk.

And improve we must. We have to pass better, keep the ball longer, retain our shape, create more chances and then take them.

Winning is a start, not a conclusion.

I agree that the club have to set high standards and that we can only reach where we believe we belong by demanding these standards, But Kelly is still relatively new to his position and has shown himself capable of making changes. If you can win by being crap then that is a start-as opposed to losing and being crap- he has decided it seems on a side, which has a reasonable balance to it(left back excepted) and you can see how they have grown in confidence over the last couple of weeks. Great even good sides have to evolve and dare I say it we shouldn't even be thinking of the Prem. just yet - let's enjoy the victories as they come and seeing the team develop.

Rob Kelly's blueand white army!!!!!!!!!!

[Dr The Singh]

That's the only reasonable way to describe today's game. Functional footall. three points. A third clean sheet.

But about as entertaining and enterprising as watching a parade of pensioners.

Keep the Faith? What a joke.

Kelly showed no faith whatever but took our team back in time like he'd found the key to the Tardis.

I paid £29 for that shit and was rewarded with a 25 minute attempt at proper football.

I had to shout at Nils that we were playing in blue and the idea wasn't to pass alternatively between blue and red.

Whoever said Kenton was an attacking full-back I'd suggest he auditions quickly for something in comedy.

Stearman showed more inititative in a few minutes than Kenton did all game.

Hughes got himself into the box - a big plus - but he wouldn't have scored even if he'd been a monk in a convent.

The Chosen Men were what they've always been, boringly functional footballers. We could have gone a goal or two down and chance for chance it must have finished about even which is remarkable because Southend wouldn't compete with our best side.

In fact they didn't compete for a while when Levi came on - at least until they were presumably ordered into "hold on" mode by which time Hughes had squandered a chance my mother could have taken and Levi must have been thinking one of the "establishment" was trying to make him look like an arsehole.

That it finishied 1-0 means of course that Kelly will continue with more of the same bland and tasteless recipe instead of taking us to places we want to go.

Three players: Kisnorbo, O'Grady and Porter came out with credit. and I reckon City owe about £20 back to anyone who paid £29 to watch cos the rest was dire.

Best part of the day, apart from Kissa 's goal and Levi's tee-up was meeting The Singh cos he was always interesting and full of positive thoughts.

Thanks for the compliment and thanks for the ale, 'the barbar' did catch up with me eventually!!!

And it was a pleasure meeting you Thracian!!! Luckily the ale numbed me before the game!!

It was a better performance, but city lack real enterprise. The second half was poor though, city played to hold on IMO. For £29 though your comments are harsh but fair!!!!

[Dr The Singh]

Oh and where was Singh?

Not in the convent!!!

In a pub!!!! Lurking around the ladies toilets as usual!!!!!!!!

[Thracian]

Thanks for the compliment and thanks for the ale, 'the barbar' did catch up with me eventually!!!

And it was a pleasure meeting you Thracian!!! Luckily the ale numbed me before the game!!

It was a better performance, but city lack real enterprise. The second half was poor though, city played to hold on IMO. For £29 though your comments are harsh but fair!!!!

Hope you've recovered! And hope the nippers enjoyed their big football day.

[Jimmy]

I personally think Thracian has a lot of well argued points.

Some people may not agree with what he says but its a forum. Debate is the whole point.

So leave the big-man alone.

i agree with alot of his points but he is over critical of a young side that wont play outstanding flowing football week in week out, even arsenal cant manage that, i would willingly discus this with him or anyone else in person.

the fact however remains, the priority of any match is to win, then play brilliant stuff, yesterdays game was nervy in parts and superb in others, the best part tho was then and always will be that we won 1-0, lets face it at the end of the season the record books will show a 1-0 leicester win, if we'd won 1-0 playing outstanding football it wouldnt be mentioned. i would happily settle for that performance every week as long as the result was a leicester win.

thrac if we played the way u want and got stuffed each week would you or anyone else be happy? no, the fans would turn and manager would get sacked

[Dr The Singh]

Hope you've recovered! And hope the nippers enjoyed their big football day.

I'm in recovery mode, had a late one, a mate of mine had a new arrival. The nippers enjoyed the experience although they were more interested in the Filbert Fox and the police then the footy!!!

[Ultra]

i agree with a lot of his points but he is over critical of a young side that won't play outstanding flowing football week in week out, even arsenal cant manage that, i would willingly discus this with him or anyone else in person.

Good point.

Fryatt was badly off the pace today and Hume wasn't a lot better. But they're at the stage of their careers where consistency doesn't always come easily.

However, they weren't helped by the midfield sitting too deep. Neither Hughes nor Johnson had the best of games and Josh Low has yet to prove he is up to Championship level.

It was just as well that McCarthy and Kisnorbo had excellent games, and kept Freddy Eastwood quiet all afternoon.

Johansson was rather more uncertain, especially when facing the tricky Campbell-Ryce, but fortunately the visitors were unable to suss this out, and gave their winger very little service.

As RK pointed out afterwards, all teams have to grind out wins from time to time and the FOXES are no exception.

Whatever the shortcomings on display yesterday (which were numerous), the outcome was that we won our third game in a row at home (our best run for some time), and took our overall unbeaten run to four games.

We will need to step up a gear or two at West Brom to extend that run, but there is enough quality in our side to at least give them a tough game.

[Thracian]

i agree with alot of his points but he is over critical of a young side that wont play outstanding flowing football week in week out, even arsenal cant manage that, i would willingly discus this with him or anyone else in person.

the fact however remains, the priority of any match is to win, then play brilliant stuff, yesterdays game was nervy in parts and superb in others, the best part tho was then and always will be that we won 1-0, lets face it at the end of the season the record books will show a 1-0 leicester win, if we'd won 1-0 playing outstanding football it wouldnt be mentioned. i would happily settle for that performance every week as long as the result was a leicester win.

thrac if we played the way u want and got stuffed each week would you or anyone else be happy? no, the fans would turn and manager would get sacked

The record books might show 1-0 and if I stayed at home I could read such results with great pleasure. But I don't. I watch the games so I see the truth and such results, while welcome, don't blind me to the fact that there is much we need to improve and it is better to tackle those improvements before we come a cropper rather than after.

Your third paragraph is undeniable and I'm delighted that it's only since we've taken a more attacking approach that we've collected seven points from nine instead of the nought from six we got from our inexplicable defensive line-ups (which did see us stuffed!).

But though the change to more attackers pleases me no-end it still doesn't make me feel complacent for a moment. All it represents is a start, a step on the way to where we want to go.

You may feel the style we play doesn't matter because it doesn't get a mention in the record books. But it sure gets mentioned by the watching fans and it sure affects our income.

If we played how I want and got stuffed I'd be mightily surprised because, firstly, we wouldn't have so many glaring weaknesses and secondly I fail to see how we'd get stuffed by opponents who couldn't get the ball.

I have little problem with our young players. People like Logan, Stearman, O'Grady, Kisnorbo, Fryatt, McCarthy, Porter and Wesolowski are pretty well all I hoped they would be at this stage. Throughout this short season our best performers have come from that group and it wasn't much different last season.

It is the experienced players who concern me. Nils, Tiatto, Hughes, even Hughes, Williams and Kenton just don't convince me. They have their moments, some more than others, but all of them seem to lack the class, consistency, durability and, in many cases, the passing ability of our young age group ionternationals.

[Hullfox]

Thrach

There isn't one of us who wouldn't want to see Leicester win playing free flowing attacking football week in week out.

What it appears to me though is that due to the present position of the club, I'm sort of having a guess that we don't quite have the personnel on board or the resources to employ them.

As such, I'm with the people that will accept scrappy wins for the time being because as sure as eggs is eggs, if we carry on winning, the uphill task of attracting more support through the doors (and all the by-products including new players) will be well under way.

Your contentions of how we have played such enllightened football unfortunately struggle to hold much credence with me at the moment because we've done it against a team of part timers plying their trade in non league football and the club currently sat at the bottom of what is Division Four, having just a solitary point for their efforts.

There is nothing wrong with hoping for better things but accept our limitations and accept the confines within which we presently have to operate.

[gilesyboy]

But it was against macclesfield ...you have mentioned 4/5 players who you single out as not being good enough, but others will get their chance... the team isn't going to change if we get results is it?

The table shows points from scoring goals and winning games, this game ain't olympic diving, no points for technique.

As someone else mentioned, we won so who gives a shet

There seems to be a considerable amount of conjecture on technique v's points as a result of Thrac's comments. I can't help but side with him in the fact that a win at all cost policy is the wrong route to go down and will only inevitably take this club backwards.

When we were topping the Prem, let's be honest we all knew we'd get found out and were hoping the breathing space accorded to us by our lofty position would permit us to expand our technique but we were caught with our pants down by a dogged Wycombe side and with no pattern, technique or actual substance on how to play the game to fall back on, the rest is history. Unfortunatey based in New Zealand, a season ticket isn't really a justifiable use of my wages and I have to rely on my brother's feedback who incidentally is breeding a new generation of City supporters by taking his young girls aong which brings me to my other point about Kelly's responsibility to the fans and backs up Thrac's point to a degree that it is a rip off. There has to be a happy medium which has to work for all. It is 3 points, it is clean sheet but that's about it. How can we be expected as City fans to be happy with that? Where's the loyalty to encourage the younger players coming through to breed a desire and work ethic that will allow their talent to flourish...to entertain the faithful who pay the exhorbitant ticket prices and to inspire new generation of support who can run around their school playgrounds emulating their heroes? I'll tell you where, tossed in the bin in favour of a 1-0 win against Southend that's where. There was an earlier post which mentioned that they'd rather play and win like we did that play and lose like Arsenal, well you're going to lose some games in a season and I know how I'd prefer us to go down.