Lineker's Left Foot Posted 27 August 2006 Posted 27 August 2006 Just wondering that if we were to get back in the Premiership, would we have a good transfer kitty available to give us a slim chance of staying there???? I know we've been in trouble before, but doesn't it look more of a bonus if Milan Mandaric was to join the helm???
Babylon Posted 27 August 2006 Posted 27 August 2006 Just wondering that if we were to get back in the Premiership, would we have a good transfer kitty available to give us a slim chance of staying there???? I know we've been in trouble before, but doesn't it look more of a bonus if Milan Mandaric was to join the helm??? It would be the same as when we were there under adams. Around a 20m budget which would include current wages of players under contract, wages of any new players + fees for those players.
Jay Posted 27 August 2006 Posted 27 August 2006 Adams had a pretty big budget in the Prem but wasted it on rubbish he didn't think it was a good idea to spend £500000 on Reo-Coker when he had the chance but was a far better option to waste it on free transfer rubbish like Craig Hignett and Job Curtis, Quantity NOT Quality with Adams
Mort Posted 27 August 2006 Posted 27 August 2006 We wouldnt have much cash in all liklihood... probably enougth to bring a couple of decent players in though i really wouldnt like to think who RK would want to go after, he's has strengths as a manager but on the basis of his summer signings i have little faith in his "talent scouting" ability, no doubt we'd be looking to pilfer a few players from clubs who'd either been relegated from the prem or missed out on promotion and then there's everyone's favourite MickyA tactic of just going for any old duffer who contracted out from a bigger club... ...thing is we're a much weaker side than we where during the 02/03 season when we had players like Izzet, Dickov, Elliot, Scowcroft etc... the chance to go up could be next season if we manage to grind out the results this season and manage a top ten finish (tough), within a year the likes of Chambers, Sheehan, Stearman, Weso and Porter will have matured and we might have some cash to spend on some decent signings to bolster the squad... if that's the case we'll stand a good chance at promotion and potentially staying up... and one fine day we'll finally sign Morton Pedersen to fill the gap that'll have been left by Tiatto retirement
shen Posted 27 August 2006 Posted 27 August 2006 Adams had a pretty big budget in the Prem but wasted it on rubbish he didn't think it was a good idea to spend £500000 on Reo-Coker when he had the chance but was a far better option to waste it on free transfer rubbish like Craig Hignett and Job Curtis, Quantity NOT Quality with Adams All is relative. We had the lowest budget of all the teams and spent very little on transfer fees. We gave it a good go, and in all fairness, we were not too far from making it. Can't say Les Ferdinand, Marcus Bent, Steffen Freund and Ben Thatcher were poor acquisitions.
davieG Posted 27 August 2006 Posted 27 August 2006 All is relative. We had the lowest budget of all the teams and spent very little on transfer fees. We gave it a good go, and in all fairness, we were not too far from making it. Can't say Les Ferdinand, Marcus Bent, Steffen Freund and Ben Thatcher were poor acquisitions. The irony of MA's team was that he preferred experience on the basis that these were the players that would know how to handle themselves in the top flight, yet it was these experienced players that got sent off e.g. Ferdinand, Dublin and threw away leads game after game after game.
shen Posted 27 August 2006 Posted 27 August 2006 The irony of MA's team was that he preferred experience on the basis that these were the players that would know how to handle themselves in the top flight, yet it was these experienced players that got sent off e.g. Ferdinand, Dublin and threw away leads game after game after game. Indeed, it was an effort that didn't pay off, but at the same time, we could not justify jeopardising our clubs future. He had a choice of taking a chance with a few inexperienced but potentially good players, or taking the 'experience' road. Bolton have used the latter and have been very succesful, so I don't blame Micky for taking that option.
Ultra Posted 27 August 2006 Posted 27 August 2006 Just wondering that if we were to get back in the Premiership, would we have a good transfer kitty available to give us a slim chance of staying there???? I know we've been in trouble before, but doesn't it look more of a bonus if Milan Mandaric was to join the helm??? It would depend on how much TV money we got. As the first call on this money would be repayments on the stadium, the transfer budget would be limited. But hopefully the board would have learned that significant investment in players is needed to ensure any promoted side to stay in the top flight. Martin O'Neill spent nearly £6million in his first Premiership season. RK (or any successor) would have to be given at least the equivalent, and spend it sensibly (ie not on Akinbiyi/Hulse-type donkeys). Otherwise it would be another season of tourism for us.
Tommeh Posted 27 August 2006 Posted 27 August 2006 They always say that getting to the prem is £20 for just getting there. 3 million will proboby go on improved wages. But it's not how much money you have it's attracting players to the club, and assuring them your not going strainght back down.
Magictv Posted 27 August 2006 Posted 27 August 2006 They always say that getting to the prem is £20 for just getting there. 3 million will proboby go on improved wages. But it's not how much money you have it's attracting players to the club, and assuring them your not going strainght back down. Megabucks eh? But seriously I don't think if we got up we would have the budget and therefore the players to stay there, unlesssome of our own young talent turns out to be good enough to take us there and keep us there, then after a year in the prem we could add a few decent additions to the squad, all the while paying back some debt on the stadium. Hopefully.
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 28 August 2006 Posted 28 August 2006 i really wouldnt like to think who RK would want to go after, he's has strengths as a manager but on the basis of his summer signings i have little faith in his "talent scouting" ability Right. So Kenton and Low aren't talent and clearly have added nothing to the game. Considering the financial situation I think RK has done a bloody good job with his summer signings and I imagine your "talent scouting" would send the club broke.
lildave3 Posted 28 August 2006 Posted 28 August 2006 Kenton i thinks a good solid defender who can also go forward, was impressed with him when he was on loan couple of seasons back. Undecided so far on Low, can cross well but is poor in the air (and we always aim for him :pinch: ) Johnson should not get in the team ahead of hughes williams or weso, all are better than him, but suppose could be useful behind the scenes as an old head. McAuley is just for cover, looked ok against macclesfield, but then again it was a league 2 club...
maccfox Posted 28 August 2006 Posted 28 August 2006 We wouldnt have much cash in all liklihood... probably enougth to bring a couple of decent players in though i really wouldnt like to think who RK would want to go after, he's has strengths as a manager but on the basis of his summer signings i have little faith in his "talent scouting" ability, ... Harsh very harsh!! Just what was he supposed to do this summer? he had no dosh whatsoever and still managed to sign 2 players who had been regulars in the PFA team of the season. For freebies i dont think messrs Low and Kenton have done bad at all this season, Andy Johnson i'm not sure about but he does have lots of experience to pass to the likes of Levi. Mcauley cant be judged yet as weve barely seen him We had a need for new midfielders dont forget our best player left on a free transfer, if has made bad signings just who would you have signed with the same budget? we now seem to have competition in most areas to my eyes he's done a cracking job this summer.
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 28 August 2006 Posted 28 August 2006 Kenton i thinks a good solid defender who can also go forward, was impressed with him when he was on loan couple of seasons back. Undecided so far on Low, can cross well but is poor in the air (and we always aim for him :pinch: ) Johnson should not get in the team ahead of hughes williams or weso, all are better than him, but suppose could be useful behind the scenes as an old head. McAuley is just for cover, looked ok against macclesfield, but then again it was a league 2 club... I think you're spot on with pretty much all of that. I do have a lot of faith in Low though, he has already added so much width to our play since he started, and gives the strikers chances that they weren't previously getting. He's not afraid to have a crack at goal either if he finds the space, and he's come pretty close to scoring a couple of times which is more than can be said of other midfielders.
jumbo mills Posted 28 August 2006 Posted 28 August 2006 we would have to the current squad would be lucky to get 20 points
Mort Posted 28 August 2006 Posted 28 August 2006 Right. So Kenton and Low aren't talent and clearly have added nothing to the game. Considering the financial situation I think RK has done a bloody good job with his summer signings and I imagine your "talent scouting" would send the club broke. I'd rate Low and Kenton... on paper Johnson is also pretty solid but the key thing is we havent strengthend areas where we were weaker than in defence, somone to fill the void left by Gudjohson in midfield instead of yet more defensive midfeild players... I'm not talking about "breaking the bank" Luton made some very solid signings this season and Newell had about as much cash as RK but he worked to strengthen key areas the same was the case at other clubs who didnt have much cash.
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 28 August 2006 Posted 28 August 2006 True we could always use some extra attack in midfield, but at least we have width now.
Jay Posted 28 August 2006 Posted 28 August 2006 I'd rate Low and Kenton... on paper Johnson is also pretty solid but the key thing is we havent strengthend areas where we were weaker than in defence, somone to fill the void left by Gudjohson in midfield instead of yet more defensive midfeild players... I'm not talking about "breaking the bank" Luton made some very solid signings this season and Newell had about as much cash as RK but he worked to strengthen key areas the same was the case at other clubs who didnt have much cash. he may have sold players to get the money but Luton signed Adam Boyd for £500k and Sam Parkin for £340k thats a LOT more than Kelly had to spend
Mort Posted 28 August 2006 Posted 28 August 2006 True we could always use some extra attack in midfield, but at least we have width now. To be honest the signing of Kenton and Low have proven themselves as good moves by RK and while their is a weakness in midfield i was probably a little harsh in dissmissing RK's ability to sign decent players i mean none of the signings have proven poor investments unlike the utterly pants signings during the CL era he may have sold players to get the money but Luton signed Adam Boyd for £500k and Sam Parkin for £340k thats a LOT more than Kelly had to spend True there where some decent free signings he brought in, however your right to say he probably had more cash than RK... in fact did RK actually have any cash during the close season? Still as i said in replying to Dan i was probably a wee bit harsh on RK's signings as none have been nearly as dud as some of CL's... and as you say he had zero cash so where he to have a half decent budget as a result of being promoted there's no telling how well or badly he might do.
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