Saddam sentenced to death by hanging

[The People's Hero]

Thanks..

It's not really something I'd want to discuss on here at any length but I shall unveil it once it's finished anyway.

[Guest]

I bet none of the critics of the Human Rights Act 1998 haven't read it. I bet they do not know the actual reasons why things get turned about when they read only half the story in the tabloid press.

By the way, the European Convention on Human Rights was written after WWII - but for 10 pts, who wrote it?

[lcfc_jme]

That's the thing with rights mate, same as everything else, vindictive nasty people can bend and manipulate and take advantage of them.

Since attempting to be more grown up about things and actually taking an interest in the news rather than me own little fantasy world, I have begun to notice this. Bloody ridiculous it is n'all Suppose when people are receiving support for it as well it'll continue, but this is only my viewpoint, 1 in millions, and so I am bound to have people waiting to shoot me down

Im in the middle of revamping mine at the moment.

How far along are you? And more importantly, wtf are you still doing posting?!?!

Apparently I'm a village idiot - do I fall under the umbrella of general idiocy or do I have to branch out in my madcap tomfoolery, perhaps onto a more global basis, before I am blamed for "Saddam, Ian Huntley and the like" not getting what they deserve?

Fez, don't be so silly now. I did call you a village idiot, but I also said you know what you're on about and are much wiser than you let on. This childish behaviour will get you nowhere. You know what I meant

[WJones]

I have used the word 'grooming' a grand total of zero times in this thread. The word 'groomed' appears in the headline of an article entitled How the CIA found and groomed Saddam Hussein. An article it is clear you haven't read.

Yes, Saddam Hussein did personally receive CIA training.

Yes, the CIA did collude with Hussein when he was in power in the killing and repression of thousands of his own people.

If you think that the USA gives a shit about human rights, if you think that America is too moral to dirty her hands with torture and abuse, then you are not living in reality.

But who can blame you? The world is such a cruel and brutal place. It's much easier to believe in fantasies.

Friends of Liberty? Oh what a DELIGHTFULLY unbiased source to read from! That's about as credible as linking to something from the BNP. Besides, you can say you've interviewed unnamed former intelligence officials and say whatever you like.

Besides, the CIA is barely accountable to the President, hell they could assasainate him if he turned on them and no-one would know. Blaming Bush for that is ridiculous. The man's done tons of stupid things, why waste time calling him to account for things he's played no part in? The CIA's powers needs curbing, certainly, but who's going to do it?

The war was a silly enterprise from the very beginning, but the ONE plus point to come from it is the arrest, trial, and now hopefully excecution of a brutal dictator. By throwing around totally unproveable claims like this in this thread you're just pissing a bunch of people off.

also: first post hello

[Daggers]

for 10 pts, who wrote it?

It's pretty long, and it was written a long time ago, so I'm guessing it was Thracian.

[Lemon Harpic]

Friends of Liberty? Oh what a DELIGHTFULLY unbiased source to read from! That's about as credible as linking to something from the BNP.

Get your facts straight.

The source of the article is not Friends of Liberty. The article appears on the FoL website, but was not written by them. The article comes from the Indo-Asian News Service.

FoL are right-wing nutjobs. I myself am somewhat left-wing (go on, ask anyone). Saddam Hussein was once an ally of the US. All I can advise is that you do your own research on the subject.

Besides, the CIA is barely accountable to the President, hell they could assasainate him if he turned on them and no-one would know. Blaming Bush for that is ridiculous. The man's done tons of stupid things, why waste time calling him to account for things he's played no part in?

Once again, it would help your credibility tremendously if you got your facts straight.

Nobody is blaming Bush for installing Saddam Hussein.

Re-check the entire thread if you don't believe me.

The war was a silly enterprise from the very beginning, but the ONE plus point to come from it is the arrest, trial, and now hopefully excecution of a brutal dictator. By throwing around totally unproveable claims like this in this thread you're just pissing a bunch of people off.

Good.

If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention.

Indo-Asian News Service isn't the only credible news agency to report the 'totally unproveable claim' that the CIA once got into bed with Saddam Hussein, btw. UPI, anyone?

also: first post hello

Hello.

[Jordan]

Why not sign up to Amnesty International, and help put pressure on the US and UK to stop installing, funding and arming dictators who use torture, just as Hussein was funded, installed and armed by the USA all those years ago?

I'm very anti-Saddam. He ought to have been hung from a lamppost years ago. If the execution is on tv I'll watch it.

...but universal abolition of the death penalty is a fundamental part of Amnesty International's philosophy.

However, regardless of the sentencing, I don't think you'll find much disappointment among anybody outside of Ba'athist loyalists in Iraq that Saddam has been brought to justice.

Unfortunately not everybody who was complicit in these crimes will be brought to justice. Lemon Harpic's views might be much farther to the left than any of us here but to be fair his comments on American support for Hussein's brutal dictatorship are spot-on.

[Ultra]

I have used the word 'grooming' a grand total of zero times in this thread. The word 'groomed' appears in the headline of an article entitled How the CIA found and groomed Saddam Hussein. An article it is clear you haven't read.

Yes, Saddam Hussein did personally receive CIA training.

Yes, the CIA did collude with Hussein when he was in power in the killing and repression of thousands of his own people.

If you think that the USA gives a shit about human rights, if you think that America is too moral to dirty her hands with torture and abuse, then you are not living in reality.

But who can blame you? The world is such a cruel and brutal place. It's much easier to believe in fantasies.

Indeed. The thought has often crossed my mind while browsing these boards in recent times.

And note how the verdict came just TWO days before the American elections.

Hopefully it won't have made too much difference, and the American people will give their president the metaphorical kicking he deserves!

[Thracian]

Indeed. The thought has often crossed my mind while browsing these boards in recent times.

And note how the verdict came just TWO days before the American elections.

Hopefully it won't have made too much difference, and the American people will give their president the metaphorical kicking he deserves!

Pity they can't kick the fundamentalist clerics who contribute to so much misery while they're at it.

[Guest]

It's pretty long, and it was written a long time ago, so I'm guessing it was Thracian.

Good call. But wrong.

I shall have to tell you all the answer, won't I.

[Lemon Harpic]

Good call. But wrong.

I shall have to tell you all the answer, won't I.

Obviously, whatever the answer is it will be somebody unexpected.

So my guess is Stalin?

[Daggers]

Pol Pot?

[Thracian]

Good call. But wrong.

I shall have to tell you all the answer, won't I.

Wasn't Harold Macmillan involved or Lord Kilmuir his Chancellor?

[The People's Hero]

Nah, you're thinking of Harold Bishop.

[Thracian]

Nah, you're thinking of Harold Bishop.

I might think of Kylie Minogue but I would't think of Harold Bishop!

[Daggers]

Why would someone sentenced to death bother going back to court for another trial?

If it was me I'd just call everyone in the court gay and bare my arse while singing a collection of Broadway songs.

[Guest]

Wasn't Harold Macmillan involved or Lord Kilmuir his Chancellor?

The British government played a huge role in its formation, yet it took us decades to indoctrinate it into our system.