Bert Posted 11 November 2006 Author Share Posted 11 November 2006 that doesnt actually matter, if the ref deems he denided a clear goalscoring oppertunity a red card is applicable, besides the other defender was lever with them not infront Yes it does. It was a goalscoring chnace but because there was a covering defender there's that chance that the defender would've made the challenge. He was right not to send him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 11 November 2006 Share Posted 11 November 2006 Yes it does. It was a goalscoring chnace but because there was a covering defender there's that chance that the defender would've made the challenge. He was right not to send him off. no it doesn't read the rule, there is no mention of a covering defender, it simply states if a clear goal scoring oppertunity is denied then a red card may be issued, other wise u cud have a defender on the oppersite side of the box and claim he's covering to avopid a red card when in reality he has no chance of affecting the game, it was the same today as stearman was about to be clean through having got away from both defenders who were within 2 yards of each other, it was a clear goal scoring oppertunity so he SHOULD of been dismissed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 11 November 2006 Share Posted 11 November 2006 From the FIFA website Sending-Off Offences A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off and shown the red card if he commits any of the following seven offences: 1. is guilty of serious foul play 2. is guilty of violent conduct 3. spits at an opponent or any other person 4. denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area) 5. denies an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick 6. uses offensive or insulting or abusive language and/or gestures 7. receives a second caution in the same match. A player, substitute or substituted player who has been sent off and shown the red card must leave the vicinity of the field of play and the technical area. as i said no mention of covering defenders, he should of been sent off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 11 November 2006 Author Share Posted 11 November 2006 no it doesn't read the rule, there is no mention of a covering defender, it simply states if a clear goal scoring oppertunity is denied then a red card may be issued, other wise u cud have a defender on the oppersite side of the box and claim he's covering to avopid a red card when in reality he has no chance of affecting the game, it was the same today as stearman was about to be clean through having got away from both defenders who were within 2 yards of each other, it was a clear goal scoring oppertunity so he SHOULD of been dismissed Yes may issues a red card. So you'd class 1 on 2 a clear goal scoring opportunity? A prime example of the right decision is when Hammond got brought down against Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 11 November 2006 Share Posted 11 November 2006 Yes may issues a red card. So you'd class 1 on 2 a clear goal scoring opportunity? A prime example of the right decision is when Hammond got brought down against Leeds. did u watch the same game, davieg said it earlier, the cut inside by stearman was taking him clear of both of them to a 1 on 1 situation with the keeper, and to start picking at the way i worded it shows you dont have an arguement, its the same when people pick on spelling mistakes because they are wrong, as i proved with the quote from FIFA, your wrong he should of been sent off and the ref bottled it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 11 November 2006 Author Share Posted 11 November 2006 You really don't have a clue what your on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 11 November 2006 Share Posted 11 November 2006 He cut inside and beat one defender but the other was by his side and would have pressured him, hardly a clear chance. If your going by that rule than surely a foul in the half your attacking would deny a goalscoring chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 11 November 2006 Share Posted 11 November 2006 the other defender was going in the wrong direction which means he would of had more then enough time to get a shot off, you last point was just ludicrous, the rule obviously applies to the area in and around the penalty box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 11 November 2006 Share Posted 11 November 2006 the other defender was going in the wrong direction which means he would of had more then enough time to get a shot off, you last point was just ludicrous, the rule obviously applies to the area in and around the penalty box Just wondering, what part of the ground did you sit in, proably had a different view of it to me. I was behind the play in the kop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 11 November 2006 Author Share Posted 11 November 2006 the other defender was going in the wrong direction which means he would of had more then enough time to get a shot off, you last point was just ludicrous, the rule obviously applies to the area in and around the penalty box Can't he change direction then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 11 November 2006 Share Posted 11 November 2006 Can't he change direction then? did i say that? no, but the time taken would of still allowed stearman enough time got get a shot off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 11 November 2006 Share Posted 11 November 2006 did i say that? no, but the time taken would of still allowed stearman enough time got get a shot off I don't know, stearman wasn't mocing that fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 11 November 2006 Share Posted 11 November 2006 you only need a couple of yards space (which he would of got) to take a shot you know, dont have to be alone for 10 yards in each direction, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 11 November 2006 Share Posted 11 November 2006 you only need a couple of yards space (which he would of got) to take a shot you know, dont have to be alone for 10 yards in each direction, do you? Nope, just looked to me as if he wouldn't have got those few yards of space. We could keep going on all night let's just let it go It didn't affect the final result anyway (I know it probably did affect the final score btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 11 November 2006 Author Share Posted 11 November 2006 Anyway at the end of the day right, we're all Leicester fans, we shouldn't be arguing over something that's as petty as this, he didn't get sent off, end of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShrew Posted 11 November 2006 Share Posted 11 November 2006 Paddy Mac had a solid match, he was unlucky with the card and the free kick. The fury with which he ripped off his mask and threw it after their goal showed me how much he cares for this team. That passion is why he's our captain, he played on the other week with a fractured eyesocket and broken nose, playing through the pain for the cause, that is why he's our captain. He is a better player to have in the team than McCauley IMO. He wears our shirt with pride and i hope he'll go on to become a leicester legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 11 November 2006 Author Share Posted 11 November 2006 He's the best man to be our captain, then i'd probably have Hume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 11 November 2006 Share Posted 11 November 2006 i'd have kisnorbo or stearman, i just dont personally like strikers as captains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muz Posted 11 November 2006 Share Posted 11 November 2006 i'd have kisnorbo or stearman, i just dont personally like strikers as captains Shearer you foo'? A captain should be someone that gives 100% and does'nt give in whatever the score. Hume's that man. As for Stearman he's far too young and naive maybe in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 12 November 2006 Share Posted 12 November 2006 Shearer you foo'? A captain should be someone that gives 100% and does'nt give in whatever the score. Hume's that man. As for Stearman he's far too young and naive maybe in a few years. yes i'd just love to have a cheating twat that thinks nothing of booting a guy in the face as captain of our side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 12 November 2006 Share Posted 12 November 2006 I think Kisnorbo should be captain. Leads by example and is our best player. I don't like the fact that our captain has been our third best player in his position this season. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_jme Posted 12 November 2006 Share Posted 12 November 2006 I think Kisnorbo should be captain. Leads by example and is our best player. I don't like the fact that our captain has been our third best player in his position this season. Oh well. Agree 100%. Kisnorbo is by far our best defender atm, and leads the back line better than Paddy Mac does. McAuley fits in better with Paddy K, and so Paddy M wouldn't even make the team if it were not for him being club captain. As LL said earlier in this thread, McCarthy is his own worst enemy, he gives away far too many stupid freekicks and earns himself more needless bookings than is necessary. Our defense actually looks more fragile with him in it imo. (he looks good with Kenton partnering him at CB, but isn't suited to play with Kisnorbo or McAuley, and I know who my preferred pairing would be) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 12 November 2006 Author Share Posted 12 November 2006 Kisnorbo is the best defender we have but i think the added pressure of captaincy may just get to him and make hime not perform as well, like Sami Hyypia did for Liverpool. Flair players such as McCarthy and Hume are the ideal candidates as they thrive on this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 12 November 2006 Share Posted 12 November 2006 Kisnorbo is the best defender we have but i think the added pressure of captaincy may just get to him and make hime not perform as well, like Sami Hyypia did for Liverpool.Flair players such as McCarthy and Hume are the ideal candidates as they thrive on this stuff. What's your definition of flair because McCarthy would be way down my list of flair players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShrew Posted 12 November 2006 Share Posted 12 November 2006 I agree with Bertfox. Flair not in the creative way but in the fire in the belly way. Players who flair up and get passionate. MAC and Hume stand out in this respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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