l444ry Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 And the rest. 3 midfielders and a striker at least. And full-backs and proper strikers and back-up players etc. etc.
Manwell Pablo Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 This is a blatent over reaction to a result that was inevitable.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 We might avoid relegation if Mandaric takes over, but then only by the skin of our teeth. Mandaric and any new manager will still have to work with this godforsaken squad of over-rated, glorified Division Two standard, wasters. And thus, the voice of reason did crumble under the weight of turgidness. A sad day.
davieG Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 It took a change of manager to achieve that though... Actually it took the arrival of Weso into the team and after he got injured the results pretty much collapsed again. Deja Vu we need Weso back and fast.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 This is a blatent over reaction to a result that was inevitable. Seems like every result is inevitable these days. Preston are a good side, Plymouth were on a good run, we never win at Norwich, blah blah blah.
l444ry Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 This is a blatent over reaction to a result that was inevitable. After the last month I doubt it could be called an over-reaction this time Manwell. And this time 3 goals were conceded.
lildave3 Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Actually it took the arrival of Weso into the team and after he got injured the results pretty much collapsed again. Deja Vu we need Weso back and fast. Fair point actually, i hear we're unbeaten in the games he's played in this season.
lcfc_jme Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 I said give Kelly until 15 games and then re-think. It's now 20 games and we're staring down the barrel of relegation. It's time for Kelly to go.
Joe. Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 And full-backs and proper strikers and back-up players etc. etc. If we can get two quality creative midfielders, we can be well on our way. At the moment we have nobody who can pass a ball brilliantly and it costs us dearly.
lildave3 Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 If we can get two quality creative midfielders, we can be well on our way. At the moment we have nobody who can pass a ball brilliantly and it costs us dearly. We do they're just both constantly injured. You can't honestly tell me we don't need a striker?
Manwell Pablo Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 After the last month I doubt it could be called an over-reaction this time Manwell. And this time 3 goals were conceded. Yes and next month will be differnt to this month. If you remember he was up for manager of the month for October. Remember most realists predicted a bottom half finish for us at the start of the season and it has hardly been the easiest set of results has it. It's not the fact that I think he shouldn't go that annoys me, it's the fact that we were always going to lose tonight, and any thread of this kind before the game would of probabley been deleted or laughed upon
Glen_lcfc Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Sheffield Wednesday are on an amazing run of form at the moment
Manwell Pablo Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Seems like every result is inevitable these days. Preston are a good side, Plymouth were on a good run, we never win at Norwich, blah blah blah. Besides the blah blah blah bit Fez it's all true I said it would be a hard month and it has. Get on at him all you want this this squad we were always going to struggle against the sides we were up against. Yes he's bought upon himself in a way but the bloke has very little margin for error, he has nothing at his disposle. The takeover makes this debate very open. I don't know what to think TBH.
lildave3 Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Sheffield Wednesday are on an amazing run of form at the moment As are Stoke. With their premiership midfield, if only we had it.
Thracian Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 And full-backs and proper strikers and back-up players etc. etc. I sympathise with your frustration but it's not all down to the players. People like MON, Bill Shankly, Brian Clough had a special charisma. Any one of them walking in on Monday morning would have refocused our whole effort, isolated the strengths of individual players and sorted out an approach which suited those strengths. Whatever system you use, it's imperative to pick players to suit that system and inter-react well with each other. It wouldn't have been easy with our side. But it would have been possible. They might not have won anything. But they wouldn't have been down where they are. At least I don't think so.
Joe. Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 We do they're just both constantly injured. You can't honestly tell me we don't need a striker? Yes we do I agree, we need a big man- somebody to play off Hume. Fryatt and Hammond aren't cut out for it yet (or ever in Elvis's case)
lildave3 Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Yes we do I agree, we need a big man- somebody to play off Hume. Fryatt and Hammond aren't cut out for it yet (or ever in Elvis's case) Neither is COG imo, despite being quite big.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Besides the blah blah blah bit Fez it's all true I said it would be a hard month and it has. Get on at him all you want this this squad we were always going to struggle against the sides we were up against. Yes he's bought upon himself in a way but the bloke has very little margin for error, he has nothing at his disposle. The takeover makes this debate very open. I don't know what to think TBH. It just strikes me that one of the main qualities he had last season was winning when we were playing poorly. Now we're not even doing that. Are we going to wait til we're in the bottom three before sacking him? It's Levein all over again. I just hate it when defeat seems inevitable week in week out. I don't mind midtable mediocrity in comparison. Win some, lose some.
AyewJoking Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 I half expected defeats by Preston, Derby and Norwich. These are teams who are better than us at the moment. We need a win asap but I'm not worrying about relegation.
l444ry Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 I sympathise with your frustration but it's not all down to the players. People like MON, Bill Shankly, Brian Clough had a special charisma. Any one of them walking in on Monday morning would have refocused our whole effort, isolated the strengths of individual players and sorted out an approach which suited those strengths. Whatever system you use, it's imperative to pick players to suit that system and inter-react well with each other. It wouldn't have been easy with our side. But it would have been possible. They might not have won anything. But they wouldn't have been down where they are. At least I don't think so. Agree with you 100% on this one. Personally, I never have thought this side is up to much but the lack of any genuine working your balls off for your team-mates is just not there. I watched Watford while the commentary was on and, though their quality is lacking, the organisation and effort menat they went down fighting tonight. Add that to the tactical problems Rob Kelly makes for himself and we're staring down a mighty black hole here.
SydneyFC Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 If Wednesday defeat us, then we really can start worrying.
jumbo mills Posted 29 November 2006 Author Posted 29 November 2006 the owls are in form at the minute so its more than likely.if we can get a draw to stop the rot
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