Thracian Posted 8 December 2006 Share Posted 8 December 2006 God your annoying today. Quick question, do you think (hypothetically), if Sylla or Low were to play against 17 year old kids every week, in a team that is clearly one of the best in it's division and scores alot of goals, they wouldn't get themselves on the score sheet a few times a season. Thank you in advance. When Sylla played in the reserves last season he looked naff and even against Hinckley this year he played okay but nothing special. He certainly didn't stand out. But it is a hypothetical question. I cannot imagine, given free choice, that Beaglehole would ever select either instead of Gradel. Low did have some goalscoring pedigree at Northampton. Nothing special but some. But he just doesn't get in the box enough to score as often as Gradel and Sylla simply doesn't have the shooting technique from anything I've seen. I honestly doubt he's had five decent shots since he's been here and on the only two occasions I felt he had a good chance to score he looked like a fish on dry land, completely uncomfortable and unconvincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 8 December 2006 Share Posted 8 December 2006 Paddy did NOT smash the door off. But he WAS crying, whilst walking around the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 8 December 2006 Share Posted 8 December 2006 If anything it shows he cares for the shirt.As fans we may be prone to smashing glass when our team loses so why not the players? Does it? Perhaps the thought of another fine upset him? The feeling of being hard done by? Perhaps the prospect of losing the captaincy? Not being good enough to play for a decent team?I can think of many reasons why a professional footballer might cry after a sh*t performance, a sending off, and an overall poor team showing, but with our current crop love of the club doesn't automatically spring to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 8 December 2006 Share Posted 8 December 2006 When Sylla played in the reserves last season he looked naff and even against Hinckley this year he played okay but nothing special. He certainly didn't stand out. But it is a hypothetical question. I cannot imagine, given free choice, that Beaglehole would ever select either instead of Gradel. Low did have some goalscoring pedigree at Northampton. Nothing special but some. But he just doesn't get in the box enough to score as often as Gradel and Sylla simply doesn't have the shooting technique from anything I've seen. I honestly doubt he's had five decent shots since he's been here and on the only two occasions I felt he had a good chance to score he looked like a fish on dry land, completely uncomfortable and unconvincing. You're missing Manwell's point. His question worked on the supposition that Low/Sylla were playing in a good team against 17 year olds week in week out. You accuse them of not getting in the box based on what you've seen for LCFC 1st XI, but that's not one of the best teams in the league. It becomes pointless arguing with you when you endlessly dodge the point and the thrust of the questions in order to further promote crap like Elvis Hammond etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookwhaticando Posted 8 December 2006 Share Posted 8 December 2006 Paddy did NOT smash the door off. But he WAS crying, whilst walking around the pitch. He's not the hard man we're led to believe, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 8 December 2006 Share Posted 8 December 2006 It wasn't for want of trying... the door simply bamboozled him with the 'staying' still trick before Paddy went to ground, before sidestepping and bamming the ball past Conrad Logan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London_Fox Posted 8 December 2006 Share Posted 8 December 2006 Wow...I'm amazed at the level of criticism being levelled at Paddy Mac. The guy is fairly young, still learning his trade and been made a captain of a struggling team. Looking around the team I really can't see many other choices for captain. Not keen on a stiker and there is enough pressure on Hume as it is (other striker get's rotated too much). Across the midfield there aren't really any options except going back to Tiatto who has all the same problems as Paddy Mac but not guaranteed his place in the side really. That leaves us with the defence and Stearman is too young, Nissa isn't really a shining example to the side. Logan isn't experienced enough and doesn't need extra help. The options are basically Tiatto, Paddy Mac or Kisnorbo...? So who is to be then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 9 December 2006 Share Posted 9 December 2006 Wow...I'm amazed at the level of criticism being levelled at Paddy Mac. The guy is fairly young, still learning his trade and been made a captain of a struggling team. Looking around the team I really can't see many other choices for captain. Not keen on a stiker and there is enough pressure on Hume as it is (other striker get's rotated too much). Across the midfield there aren't really any options except going back to Tiatto who has all the same problems as Paddy Mac but not guaranteed his place in the side really. That leaves us with the defence and Stearman is too young, Nissa isn't really a shining example to the side. Logan isn't experienced enough and doesn't need extra help. The options are basically Tiatto, Paddy Mac or Kisnorbo...? So who is to be then? Hume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 9 December 2006 Share Posted 9 December 2006 Kisnorbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London_Fox Posted 9 December 2006 Share Posted 9 December 2006 Hume has enough pressure on him without needing the captaincy as well...it's also difficult to organise from the back. Kisnorbo is the only other option but what do we know about his leadership skills/respect in the changing room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cisono Posted 9 December 2006 Share Posted 9 December 2006 My uncle works as security at LCFC in the club and players lounge. McCarthy smashed the dressing room door off when he went down the tunnel. Then while the other players were warming down post match, he was strolling up and down the pitch with Rob Kelly and RK had his arm around him whilst PM was crying his eyes out?!?! Then in the players lounge, McCarthy was not talking to no one. This is not cr ap by the way. And? That is what he is like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB11 Posted 9 December 2006 Share Posted 9 December 2006 He may be a footballer but he should be allowed some privacy, true or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookwhaticando Posted 9 December 2006 Share Posted 9 December 2006 Perhaps he won't come straight back into the side for Barnsleh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 10 December 2006 Share Posted 10 December 2006 Kisnorbo did alright yesterday, and the other times he's had to fill in this season. I would personally prefer him to be captain, he's more level-headed and organised. I also wouldn't complain if Maybury was captain. Controversial, yes, but I don't think he's the donkey most people make him out to be. I thought he had a great game yesterday, all things considered, and that challenge he put in which so easily could have lead to a penalty was top drawer. It was not the challenge of a sh*t player despite what many on here think.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 10 December 2006 Share Posted 10 December 2006 Kisnorbo did alright yesterday, and the other times he's had to fill in this season. I would personally prefer him to be captain, he's more level-headed and organised. I also wouldn't complain if Maybury was captain. Controversial, yes, but I don't think he's the donkey most people make him out to be. I thought he had a great game yesterday, all things considered, and that challenge he put in which so easily could have lead to a penalty was top drawer. It was not the challenge of a sh*t player despite what many on here think.... Agreed. Without that challenge, certain goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookwhaticando Posted 10 December 2006 Share Posted 10 December 2006 I concede Maybury did seem to have a good game of it, from what I could tell from Barber's ravings. I don't see him as one of those people whose name should be on the teamsheet first - after all, he's not our first choice right-back and that's his position. As for him being captain, he seemed to be picking up a lot of cards lately, collecting them just as quickly as our other hot-head players - Tiatto and McCarthy. He has been captain before, though, so I wouldn't object to him being captain in the absence of Kisnorbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 10 December 2006 Share Posted 10 December 2006 I don't see him as one of those people whose name should be on the teamsheet first Why not? He's the best we have in that position, despite what a large number think. The fact that often he's had to cover up someone else's mistakes, and has made mistakes in doing so does not mean that he should be in line for half the abuse he's been getting. On top of that, the bloke's been told one minute he's no longer part of the plans and the next he's told 'whoops sorry we've cocked it up'. And yet some fans think that this kind of situation doesn't mess with your head?I'm sticking up for him here. He is not the villain of the season, not by a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 10 December 2006 Share Posted 10 December 2006 I think Maybury has a bit of class about him which you don't usually see in this division. Unfortunately, it's hard to know what has gone on behind the scenes wrt potential unrest due to non-selection and transfer speculation. On the head again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookwhaticando Posted 10 December 2006 Share Posted 10 December 2006 Why not? He's the best we have in that position, despite what a large number think. The fact that often he's had to cover up someone else's mistakes, and has made mistakes in doing so does not mean that he should be in line for half the abuse he's been getting. On top of that, the bloke's been told one minute he's no longer part of the plans and the next he's told 'whoops sorry we've cocked it up'. And yet some fans think that this kind of situation doesn't mess with your head? I'm sticking up for him here. He is not the villain of the season, not by a long way. Which position? LB? or RB? I'm not particularly bothered who plays, so long as they're not useless. I mean, Maybury's first months with us were strong - he seemed to be a quality player in that position. I'd have no problem with him playing at RB. I'd rather play him at RB as I'm no fan of players out of position, but if he can do a job at LB then so be it. After all, Nissa has done alright at LB despite being out of position. Can't begrudge him that after his displays in October. You're definitely right, he is by no means the villain of the season. There's much bigger fish in that particular pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 10 December 2006 Share Posted 10 December 2006 RB, sorry. I feel happier with Maybury RB, Nissa LB, Kisnorbo and MacAuley in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookwhaticando Posted 10 December 2006 Share Posted 10 December 2006 RB, sorry. I feel happier with Maybury RB, Nissa LB, Kisnorbo and MacAuley in the middle. My heart bleeds. I wouldn't complain about that back four, though. It could do a job for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 10 December 2006 Share Posted 10 December 2006 My heart bleeds. I wouldn't complain about that back four, though. It could do a job for sure. At the moment, I'd say it would. Knowing my luck, Kelly will play it and we'll get mullered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookwhaticando Posted 10 December 2006 Share Posted 10 December 2006 At the moment, I'd say it would. Knowing my luck, Kelly will play it and we'll get mullered. I wouldn't hold you responsible. It's McAuley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 10 December 2006 Share Posted 10 December 2006 I wouldn't hold you responsible. It's McAuley He looked quite accomplished on the ball at times yesterday, didn't panic or anything. I was quite impressed, to be fair. A highlight from the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 10 December 2006 Share Posted 10 December 2006 Kisnorbo did alright yesterday, and the other times he's had to fill in this season. I would personally prefer him to be captain, he's more level-headed and organised. I also wouldn't complain if Maybury was captain. Controversial, yes, but I don't think he's the donkey most people make him out to be. I thought he had a great game yesterday, all things considered, and that challenge he put in which so easily could have lead to a penalty was top drawer. It was not the challenge of a sh*t player despite what many on here think.... I don't think he's a bad player either. He's a good right back. Whether he can be a good left-back I don't know but he's played there in the past if memory serves. Depends what you accept as being "good" I suppose. I fully accept that he played well yesterday and if he can do as well as he did at right back when at his best then there won't be a problem. I have some doubts, especially going forward, but will be happy to be convinced otherwise. Maybury played in most of our best attacking successes last season and I am a big believer in fast or fastish full-backs. He manages to stay on the field and avoid unnecessary bookings which is another plus. What he's not is a midfield player, anymore than Stearman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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