davieG Posted 8 December 2006 Posted 8 December 2006 Is beyond belief. Birmingham's David Gold has accused Jose Mourinho of a lack of respect after the Portuguese's suggestion that Chelsea's reserve team could compete in The Championship. Mourinho expressed his enthusiasm for the initiative which would allow fringe members of his burgeoning squad to retain their match fitness throughout the season. Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez and Arsenal counterpart Arsene Wenger have voiced their support for the idea as well. However, the suggestion has upset the chairman of the Championship leaders. Gold said: "Jose often talks about requiring respect, but this is disrespectful to Football League clubs. "It's not the Football League's problem if his players aren't getting enough competition." Mourinho cited the example of Spain, where heavyweights Barcelona and Real Madrid are permitted to field 'B' teams in the lower divisions. The reserve sides are not eligible for promotion and are barred from domestic cup competitions. "That may be fine for Jose and I'm sure it would be nice for him if he had three or four teams playing in the league," added Gold on BBC Radio Five Live. "Where would he expect his team to enter the league? "To allow it to happen, straight away you would have to dump a club into the conference to make room."
Fez of Mahrez Posted 8 December 2006 Posted 8 December 2006 F**k off! They've got three Arsenal kids getting them promoted!! What's the difference?!?!
dandannieldanok Posted 8 December 2006 Posted 8 December 2006 F**k off! They've got three Arsenal kids getting them promoted!! What's the difference?!?! Good point but I am with Mr. Gold on this one.
RowlattsFox Posted 8 December 2006 Posted 8 December 2006 i don't think mourinho was entirely serious when he suggested this.
Filbert_Ross Posted 8 December 2006 Posted 8 December 2006 i think he was. like already said it happens in spain.
Tommeh Posted 8 December 2006 Posted 8 December 2006 load of bull shit he must think the premier league is all that matters, most of the real traditional football is in the football league and Chelsea and Arsenal reserves should not be allowed to ruin this.
vanfox12 Posted 8 December 2006 Posted 8 December 2006 i think he was. like already said it happens in spain. I think you'll find it also happens in Holland and Germany. A few years ago Ajax's First team and Reserves reached the semi finals of the Dutch Cup.
lcfc_jme Posted 8 December 2006 Posted 8 December 2006 Mourinho, Wenger and Benitez should all stop being so bloody demanding and cheeky. It's their fault they have as many players to keep fit as they do. They have a reserves league anyway, which is more than what we have. I think this is one of the stupidest suggestions he has come out with tbh. At least 3 clubs would have to be dropped out of the football league all together, and a few clubs from each league would find themselves being relegated to compensate for the Premier League Reserve XI's. Not supporting this. Shouldn't happen imo.
Filbert_Ross Posted 8 December 2006 Posted 8 December 2006 I think you'll find it also happens in Holland and Germany. A few years ago Ajax's First team and Reserves reached the semi finals of the Dutch Cup. it would be crap if it happnened in england and im sure it never will. surely any new team would have to start where AFC Wimbledon did.
RowlattsFox Posted 8 December 2006 Posted 8 December 2006 theres no chance it will happen in this country, the strength in depth in english football is a lot better than anywhere else in europe.
Ultra Posted 9 December 2006 Posted 9 December 2006 it would be crap if it happnened in england and im sure it never will. surely any new team would have to start where AFC Wimbledon did. Indeed. There's no way the Football League would ever agree to it. The idea is a complete non-starter.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 9 December 2006 Posted 9 December 2006 Can no-one else see the utter hypocrisy at play here?!?!!?! Hello? He's quite happy to fill his first XI with Bendtner, Larsson and Muamba. What a joke.
Thracian Posted 9 December 2006 Posted 9 December 2006 If anyone were thinking what's good for football instead of what's good for themselves they would be proposing a limit on the number of players a club could register. That way there wouldn't be brilliant players sitting around on the bench every week who could be playing at another club and making the Premiership a genuine competition instead of the farce of a contest it has become. There should also be a limit on the amount of money a team can pay for their squad. Would Mourinho consider it fair to start a season with a 20 points handicap? Or would he be happy if his team could only field nine men in matches? Of course not. And yet he is perfectly happy to have access to obscene sums of money and wallow in the mistaken notion that he has somehow fashioned the best team in the country. He has not. The Flush Rush has done that by being first in the queue for every ticket. All Mourinho has done is stamped them as they pass through the door. In short he has a totally unfair advantage. Most other teams cannot even buy matinee tickets so you don't have the semblance of a fair competition-just a contrived illusion. If you're going to have a meaningful challenge - instead of an ever more distasteful clamour for money - the rules should ensure that the financial goalposts are in the same place for everyone. It is not even as if Chelsea have earned the right to buy all the best players through their prudence and clever business practice down the years. They've just been supposedly lucky to have a money machine at their disposal. And I've got as much interest in watching them as watching shit bake in the sun. But why should Mourinho stop at two chelsea teams? Perhaps, the the way things are moving, it would actually be better if Chelsea had all the Premiership teams - in fact why shouldn't Chelsea have all the teams in all the leagues and became the only registered football club in the world?. The authorities could then announce what I've suggested as being fair and all the thousands of Chelsea teams - financed with exactly the same x million pounds each - could play each other in different competitions every week all over the world at different grounds. Chelsea Barcelona (54375) could play Chelsea Real Madrid (47893) in the Spanish League, Chelsea London (1) could play Chelsea Bolton (23) in the English Premiership and we could even have Chelsea (Gulag) 163789214) versus Chelsea (Lubyanka) 666666666666 on some frozen pitch near the Russian part of the Arctic Circle - all on the same day. And if anyone tried to cheat with the funding then all the Chelsea manager's could have a big row and have it broadcast to the world on Chelsea global television. That bland bugger whose droning voice is so synonymous with the football results would become a cult figure. His programme would last day and night.... Chelsea (Hull) onnnnnnnnnnnne Chelsea (Preston) twoooooooooooooooo; Chelsea (Palace) threeeeeeeeeeeeeee Chelsea (Wolves) nillllllllllllll and so on around the world. There would be many benefits. Football would be introduced to America on a mega scale with specially adapted local rules ie goalposts twice the size of ours so there was scoring every 10 seconds to stop the yanks getting bored and dropping off to sleep. In China so many journalists would be needed on match days they'd have to empty the prisons (where they keep em) and in Russia the great God football, with its huge chunk of Abramoney, would be seen as a great alternative to working at the Soviet School for the bio-disposal-of-dissidents. FIFA should get onto it straight away. Abramoney instead of Mandamoney - no contest!.
Guest Gist Posted 9 December 2006 Posted 9 December 2006 It would make more sense to stop splashing cash on players and wasting their talent like Wright-Phillips for example. Why not just send players on loan? it helps the player who isn't playing much and the teams who can't afford to get these players permanently.
vanfox12 Posted 10 December 2006 Posted 10 December 2006 It would make more sense to stop splashing cash on players and wasting their talent like Wright-Phillips for example. Why not just send players on loan? it helps the player who isn't playing much and the teams who can't afford to get these players permanently. The only reason Chelsea bought players like Wright-Phillips is to make the league less competitive. The biggest problem with having premier reserve teams in the Championship is that it demeans the whole competition has it means that potentially the top 3 or 4 places in the league could be taken by Premier reserve teams with the rest fighting it out behind them. Also how do you deal with relegation and promotion on fair basis plus you've got the play off's and the Non League pyramid to think about as well. It's also for these very reasons we shouldn't be encouraging Rangers and Celtic to play in the Premiership as it will mean even less opportunities for clubs like Leicester to have any success in the future. And another point until Abramhovich arrived Chelsea weren't even a really big club at least not in the same bracket as Arsenal and Manchester United.
MC Prussian Posted 10 December 2006 Posted 10 December 2006 Let them Mourinhos and Wengers talk their bollocks. It's just trash-talk, really. In the end, I could also blame the media for letting us know those wonderful and absolutely necessary news. Yellow press can go to hell.
act smiley Posted 11 December 2006 Posted 11 December 2006 I think you'll find it also happens in Holland and Germany. A few years ago Ajax's First team and Reserves reached the semi finals of the Dutch Cup. Happens in Germany, where they're limited to tier 3, but in Holland they only play in the cup, not the league structure. Personally, I don't think it would be too bad to have Premiership and Championship reserves added to the LDV Trophy (or the Paint Trophy or whatever it is now), but the idea of having Premiership reserves in the league is ridiculous - as said, you'd need to basically remove half of league two to give the "big" teams their League Reserves. They'd soon change their tune if the FA turned around and said they'd change the rules so they could have reserves in the pyramid if they came in at step 10. Even if that happened it would give slight boosts to some nonleague sides as they filtered up and then just destroy the conference and league two at a later date. To be honest, I don't see any hypocricy in opposing it, getting a player in on loan is rather different from simply being a reserve team.
gatesheadfox Posted 11 December 2006 Posted 11 December 2006 nations like spain have reserve teams in the league as they don't have the support for smaller clubs like england has. the championship is a poor league but sticking reserve teams in would be pointless and take more money away from teams who need it, could you imagine 3000 going to leicester to watch them play liverpool reserves? i can't, however teams like sheffield wednesday etc would bring that much. i'm suprised he wants his reserves playing competive football seeing as his squad 'play too many games'
Guest Posted 11 December 2006 Posted 11 December 2006 The reason it works abroad is that the number of full time professional clubs is far lower than we have. We have 92. Then there's the non-league full timers. Yet Italy's Serie C has some part time clubs, if I remember correctly. The Premiership has it's own reserve league, don't forget. You know, the one we were kicked out of, and the one that is clearly having a serious effect on our players (Fryatt for one). If that's not good enough, tough poo-poo.
Manwell Pablo Posted 11 December 2006 Posted 11 December 2006 The reason it works abroad is that the number of full time professional clubs is far lower than we have. We have 92. Then there's the non-league full timers. Yet Italy's Serie C has some part time clubs, if I remember correctly. The Premiership has it's own reserve league, don't forget. You know, the one we were kicked out of, and the one that is clearly having a serious effect on our players (Fryatt for one). If that's not good enough, tough poo-poo. There that and the fact that Italy, Germany and Spain all have a division less than us in their "football league" and there is alot less money in Serie C than in League Two. Excellent point about the reserve league. I gurantee this wont happen any way.
Guest Posted 11 December 2006 Posted 11 December 2006 Of course it won't, and it shouldn't. I sometimes despair at the way the game is going.
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