Daggers Posted 31 July 2007 Posted 31 July 2007 fine it appears the lot of are very unpatriotic arseholes that would like nothing more than to bend over and let america fook you up the 'ass' I'm an asshole AND an unpatriotic asshole - and proud of it.
AoWW Posted 31 July 2007 Posted 31 July 2007 Once the useless English teachers start teaching kids how to write English properly...then I'll moan about the Yanks.Useless teachers. Shore, if id fooking been tawt proper in the first fooking plaice then id be ok to teach em it now. But I wernt... ger over it!
lookwhaticando Posted 1 August 2007 Posted 1 August 2007 Shore, if id fooking been tawt proper in the first fooking plaice then id be ok to teach em it now. But I wernt... ger over it! The problem with English teaching in schools is the fact that only in English class do spelling and grammar concern anyone, it seems. Anything written for any class should also be subject to grading on spelling and grammar. If spelling and grammar were considered important in all courses, things would improve at least slightly. If it's just the one class (English which, let's face it, nobody actually cares about) people don't take a strong enough interest in improving their spelling etc. Oh yeah, and replacing all English teachers would be a bonus, too.
Daggers Posted 1 August 2007 Posted 1 August 2007 Shore, if id fooking been tawt proper in the first fooking plaice then id be ok to teach em it now. But I wernt... ger over it! Anything written for any class should also be subject to grading on spelling and grammar. If spelling and grammar were considered important in all courses, things would improve at least slightly. If it's just the one class (English which, let's face it, nobody actually cares about) people don't take a strong enough interest in improving their spelling etc. This was done in the late 90's and it was an absolute fricken nightmare for everyone in all the other curriculum subjects. Well, all except Home Economics, music and PE which aren't proper subjects taught by proper teachers. Each night I had to grade between thirty and sixty books. Each book had to be graded for factual accuracy. Each book had to be graded for effort. Each book had to be assessed and graded for spelling, punctuation and grammar. Each book had to have a comment written (not in red ink as that is highly offencive to thick kids...err...kinaesthetically-intelligent students). The comment was to be no less than a paragraph and should include praise for one main point, one highlighted area that would require improvement if the work was redone and a minimum of one target for improvement. All of these grades and comments would then have to be recorded on official department documentation. Unless you set 'copy-from-book' work in class there wasn't a hope in hell you could ever cover all of this. Science labs went out the window, as did lesson planning exciting, interesting and differentiated classes. Physics teachers should grade spelling and grammar, huh? Nah...not unless English teachers are going to cover the Zeroth Law of Thermodynamics & Lenz's Law.
lookwhaticando Posted 1 August 2007 Posted 1 August 2007 This was done in the late 90's <and blah...> Late 90's was when I was in secondary school (96-2001), and never was spelling/grammar considered outside of English class. I'm not saying it didn't happen for you - different education authorities, different exam boards, different age groups could all easily explain what you saw and how I saw it. Or maybe I was just too good at spelling and grammar to notice. In my experience... I don't ever recall formally being taught much grammar/spelling at all once I got to secondary school. I found that English in my final years (9, 10 & 11) or secondary school seemed only to care about ideas and interpretation of poems and crap like that. Shamefully, I spent a brief spell in Set 3 (the lowest set) for English class, on the back of some piece of tosh they got me to write about when I first got to the school. That was depressing. The drop in standard from Set 1 to 2 isn't all that great... but Set 2 to Set 3 is massive. Set 3 is like some kind of pre-school class... the bollocks they had the kids doing. Making advert posters for things. Bright colours... felt-tip pens... nightmare stuff. I did more involved stuff in my final years of primary school for ****s sakes. Thankfully I was rescued from Set 3 after about a week when it was patently clear I wasn't quite as thick as the rest of them. Back in Set 2 and back to being treated like a semi-functional teenager, rather than a five year old. My inability and lack of desire to read/interpret/understand poetry and such like is what cost me... it wasn't because my spelling was wank and my grammar appalling. My spelling and grammar were always superior to most people in my half of the year group, but it was never recognized. There was too much emphasis on "what's going through Hamlet's mind?" and cock like that. Anyway... babble over. Bottom line: someone's gotta teach some proper English somewhere. And no fooking Haiku!
Daggers Posted 1 August 2007 Posted 1 August 2007 Late 90's was when I was in secondary school (96-2001), and never was spelling/grammar considered outside of English class. Lazy ****ers, those teachers. I'm not saying it didn't happen for you - different education authorities, different exam boards, different age groups could all easily explain what you saw and how I saw it. Or maybe I was just too good at spelling and grammar to notice. It was a directive from the Department of Education for England and Wales for the education of the 11-18 Secondary sector. The fact that I no longer have to read a single update from the DFEE/DFES is of considerable joy, daily
lookwhaticando Posted 1 August 2007 Posted 1 August 2007 Lazy ****ers, those teachers. It was a directive from the Department of Education for England and Wales for the education of the 11-18 Secondary sector. The fact that I no longer have to read a single update from the DFEE/DFES is of considerable joy, daily Obviously I was too good at spelling/grammar to notice then.
Alexikokopops Posted 1 August 2007 Posted 1 August 2007 Nah...not unless English teachers are going to cover the Zeroth Law of Thermodynamics & Lenz's Law. The Zeroth Law always amused me. I can't remember what it is, but it's the fact they realised they always had a First Law and had to call it the Zeroth.
Phube Posted 1 August 2007 Posted 1 August 2007 There is no worse example than Timberland's new No.1: The way I are!!!!!????!?!?!?!?!?! WTF!!!!!!!
Daggers Posted 1 August 2007 Posted 1 August 2007 There is no worse example than Timberland's new No.1: The way I are!!!!!????!?!?!?!?!?! WTF!!!!!!! Phube - what in the flying fudge of ****iness are you on about?
Fez of Mahrez Posted 1 August 2007 Posted 1 August 2007 There is no worse example than Timberland's new No.1: The way I are!!!!!????!?!?!?!?!?! WTF!!!!!!! It's Timbaland, dummy.
lildave3 Posted 4 August 2007 Posted 4 August 2007 There is no worse example than Timberland's new No.1: The way I are!!!!!????!?!?!?!?!?! WTF!!!!!!! Great song.
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