Let's hear it for Simon grayson

[Vestan Pance]

Grayson was a good servant of LCFC, but he was no legend. That word gets given way too much airtime in this forum. Like most of our other recent managers, he lacks the profile that's required to handle the bigger players on bigger wages that Manadric is inevitably going to want and need at some stage (and indeed the experience to handle Manadric himself). That's not to say he won't go on to be a great manager. I just think - like Allen - he's still 2/3 years away from earning the right to take on a big job.

If he was to take on a coaching role at LCFC underneath, say, a former LCFC manager that might have signed him during his career; a man with experience of working with a "deadly" chairman; a man who took us to three play-off finals before taking his next club to two successive top 5 Premiership finishes, then that might be different.

Why would Grayson want to work under Little? Do you think that maybe Roy Keane should work under Ron Atkinson? It's a simple fact that Grayson's stock has a much higher value than Little's and on the management career ladder that is all that counts. The idea that he would take a coaching role is ridiculous.

Being Manager of Leicester City is no longer seen as a big job, which is why we ended up with Megson, a hard job maybe. The suggestion that Grayson is 2/3 years away from being able to fill the shoes of what has gone before is an insult.

[Nationwider]

Agreed and to some extent I am playing devils advocate. However I don't think that experience is the only box that needs ticking. For me it is quite far down on the list of priorities. I don't want Grayson because he is an ex-player I want him because he is proving himself to be a good at his job.

He took up an unfashionable side who had been struggling for years when there were far 'bigger' teams in the division and he has experience of working with an eccentric/driven chairman. Though I wouldn't trust him with a lot of money he cannot be anyworse than Allen with the pursestrings and people still seem to hold him in high regard.

By the same token, I'd go along with that. I don't want to put down the progress he's made - I'm just nervous that Grayson, or a manager like him, won't be able to handle the extra stuff that comes with managing a high profile side just yet. Having said that, if a relative unknown like Aidy Boothroyd can do it, the maybe Grayson could?

I don't know enough about him from a coaching point of view, although I remember him well as a player. You need an extra managerial dimension (?) to get from L1 -> CCC, to go on and achieve CCC -> Prem. If he's another "Mike Bassett" then he's doomed. If he's a good, progressive coach, then he should be considered, perhaps alongside a director of football.

[Thracian]

And those "wasters" would be straight on the phone to the PFA, or more probably, Mandaric. Word would go out about what a "bully" this manager was and before he knew it, he'd be out on his ear.

Why do you think Martin Allen got the boot?

You make your bed and lie on it. MM made his. And is still paying the price.

[Wherethefoxhat?]

Whilst Simon Grayson has done an admirable job at Blackpool, like Martin Allen, he is still very green in managerial terms. To date, he has acquired players astutely, but only actually been able to spend £25,000 in his two year career. Blackpool average about 8k per home game and it would be a quantum leap for someone like Grayson to have to make. The media scrutiny that the club is now under following the arrival of Mandy and his revolving door is immense and throwing in another manager with no top-tier experience is asking for history to repeat itself (Levein, Kelly, Allen).

Grayson was a good servant of LCFC, but he was no legend. That word gets given way too much airtime in this forum. Like most of our other recent managers, he lacks the profile that's required to handle the bigger players on bigger wages that Manadric is inevitably going to want and need at some stage (and indeed the experience to handle Manadric himself). That's not to say he won't go on to be a great manager. I just think - like Allen - he's still 2/3 years away from earning the right to take on a big job.

If he was to take on a coaching role at LCFC underneath, say, a former LCFC manager that might have signed him during his career; a man with experience of working with a "deadly" chairman; a man who took us to three play-off finals before taking his next club to two successive top 5 Premiership finishes, then that might be different.

Mandy really does need experience. If he needs to take 2-3 months for the merry-go-round to throw up some more candidates, then so be it. The last thing he should do is to risk a populist choice that's currently flavour of the month, only for it to all go tits-up again by the New Year.

Martin came from Wycombe Wanderers------------say no more!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now thats a quantum leap

That piece of history can repeat itself as soon as!!!!!!!!!!!

I did'nt say Grayson was a Legend ---but you dont have to have that accolade to have LCFC in your heart!!

[STUHILL]

Ok....here we go again...hmm..nothing changed on my first choice pre-megson appointment. Paul Jewell again for me please by country mile, but what is the deal with him, he seems totally dis-interested in getting back in to football at moment. I was convinced he was perfect man for Bolton and would indeed take it, however we all know what happened there (shock of the century!). So Jewell coming seems to be less and less of an option at the moment. So next choice for me would have to be Grayson which I find myself suprsied in saying, as I was not keen at all pre-Allen. i guess I want some excitement back after 6weeks of Megson. I think we need to take a slight risk with someone like Grayson or perhaps even Ince, which is another I was dead against before Allen era. I don't know why but Dowie just doesnt appeal to me and If he gets it there will be a slight feeling of disapointment. Anyway I know what ppl will say about Grayson and Ince being un-experienced, but with Jewell possibly ruled out, I'm really beginning to run out of ideas!!!!!

[dog_4]

whats the point when jewell is free.

[Nationwider]

Why would Grayson want to work under Little? Do you think that maybe Roy Keane should work under Ron Atkinson? It's a simple fact that Grayson's stock has a much higher value than Little's and on the management career ladder that is all that counts. The idea that he would take a coaching role is ridiculous.

Being Manager of Leicester City is no longer seen as a big job, which is why we ended up with Megson, a hard job maybe. The suggestion that Grayson is 2/3 years away from being able to fill the shoes of what has gone before is an insult.

I can't get my head around a Grayson/Little and Keane/Atkinson comparison, sorry. There are too many variables there.

I agree that Grayson's stock is higher than Little's. Hence Larry getting 1000% more coverage in this forum than BL. But then football these days is very much based on a superficial, now-now-now mentality.

I completely agree that LCFC position isn't perceived as a big job. This is our 5th season out of the last 6 where we've not been in the top flight.

I think my use of the word coach has been misinterpreted. I would assume that if Grayson came, he would be given the reponsibility to pick the first team. I envisaged Little (in this admitedly unlikely scenario) in a DoF role.

I'm not suggesting that Grayson is 2/3 years away from being able to fill the shoes of Levein/Allen etc. Hindsight has taught us that they weren't ready (in Allen's case, I feared there would be tears before bedtime). Grayson is his own man and obviously competant, but we know as much about him as a Prem/CCC manager as we did with Allen, Kelly and Levein - nothing, as there's no frame of reference.

I'd love it (Keegan-style) if I was wrong, but I'm a dour pragmatist and my gut feeling is to find a guy that's been there and done it before.

Martin came from Wycombe Wanderers------------say no more!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now thats a quantum leap

That piece of history can repeat itself as soon as!!!!!!!!!!!

I did'nt say Grayson was a Legend ---but you dont have to have that accolade to have LCFC in your heart!!

Someone can always throw that back in my face. Yes, there is an exception to every rule!

I agree with your last sentence too. As long as there's something between the ears to go with that LCFC heart.

[Scow]

Nationwider, the voice of reason.

I don't think Grayson would be the worst appointment in the world, but I feel he's needs to prove himself before being considered for the job. One promotion through the play-offs in League 1 doesn't suggest he can do it.

[tommypello]

larry with taggs and walshies in a coaching role!!!!!!

[Wherethefoxhat?]

Nationwider, the voice of reason.

I don't think Grayson would be the worst appointment in the world, but I feel he's needs to prove himself before being considered for the job. One promotion through the play-offs in League 1 doesn't suggest he can do it.

Nobody suggested Martin could do it when he came from Wycombe !!!!!

Do'nt forget Grayson learnt his stuff from him and i still say---------

LET'S HEAR IT FOR SIMON GRAYSON !!!!!!

[Scow]

Nobody suggested Martin could do it when he came from Wycombe !!!!!

Do'nt forget Grayson learnt his stuff from him and i still say---------

LET'S HEAR IT FOR SIMON GRAYSON !!!!!!

MON achieved 2 successive promotions with Wycombe and had a bit more experience behind him. And just because he played Gayson played under him, it doesn't guarantee success.

I just feel Grayson needs to show more before being considered for the job. He did a fantastic job last season but I would be reluctant to give someone the job based on just one good season.

He's certainly a better candidate than Walsh though.

[mancunianfox]

MON achieved 2 successive promotions with Wycombe and had a bit more experience behind him. And just because he played Gayson played under him, it doesn't guarantee success.

I just feel Grayson needs to show more before being considered for the job. He did a fantastic job last season but I would be reluctant to give someone the job based on just one good season.

He's certainly a better candidate than Walsh though.

Two good seasons actually if you look at the position that Blackpool were in when he got the job.

[Fat Ron]

Two good seasons actually if you look at the position that Blackpool were in when he got the job.

I think that grayson is a better bet than most that have been mentioned. Apart from Royle & Jewell.

Grayson - Dowie = No contest.

[Fez of Mahrez]

I think that grayson is a better bet than most that have been mentioned. Apart from Royle & Jewell.

Grayson - Dowie = No contest.

Why? There's every chance Grayson could find himself in too deep if he was managing a fairly poor Premiership team. And he hasn't achieved a promotion to the Premiership yet. I think Dowie gets a raw deal on here.

[Fat Ron]

Why? There's every chance Grayson could find himself in too deep if he was managing a fairly poor Premiership team. And he hasn't achieved a promotion to the Premiership yet. I think Dowie gets a raw deal on here.

Fair comment, I just dont rate or like Dowie. Personal choice.

Dowie did win Promotion to the Prem with Palace only to be dumped back down again the following season, then moved to Charlton and messed that up and hasnt really set Coventry alight. granted they are in financial difficulties but they still have a reasonable squad.

[Wherethefoxhat?]

Why? There's every chance Grayson could find himself in too deep if he was managing a fairly poor Premiership team. And he hasn't achieved a promotion to the Premiership yet. I think Dowie gets a raw deal on here.

WHY ??

[Scow]

Two good seasons actually if you look at the position that Blackpool were in when he got the job.

Being pedantic, just one good full season.

[Lisburn Fox]

1. Paul Jewel

2.Gary Johnson

3. Simon Grayson

[FilboFox]

1. Paul Jewel

2.Gary Johnson

3. Simon Grayson

1. Paul Jewel

2 = Gary Johnson

2= Simon Grayson

[Bryn]

I'd take Johnson over Grayson. Jewell over both.