mmarkie Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Henderson-7-played ok Kaebi-8 or 9-bloomin awesum Cox-6-alrite Garner-7-did well Rowe-Turner-7-same as garner Odihambo-7-good goals but did not play that well Djeziri-7-needs to pass more but did alrite Hellings-7-controlled the midfield Hayes-6-Good goal Mckay-5-didnt really touch the ball Sappleton-8-was good subs: Cobbs-5-didnt do much Kee-4-looked alrite Chambers-6-needs better control and final ball was poor but on the whole alrite.
Simi Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Kaebi-8 or 9-bloomin awesum *Leaves FoxesTalk for the night.*
Bryn Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Thracian usually does good reserve ratings so I'll wait for those.
Koke Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 If Djeziri just learned when to pass or cross and when to take on a man, then he'd really turn into a good player. His decision making are quite diabolical. But he did alright on the whole really. Sappleton was good as well. He resembles Emile Heskey quite a lot. Good hold up play and he won the physical battle with the Walsall defenders. Chambers struggled while he was on. His ball control was poor and some of his final passes were rather dire. Kaebi, despite playing left back, did quite alright. He wasn't spectacular or anyting but he did his job. You could see ocasionally that the boy does have ability. He wasn't bad defensivly as people have said in the past. Maybe he improved I suppose. I was happy for Hayes, he got his goal and his general play was good. Got 70 minutes or so under his belt.
Koke Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 *Leaves FoxesTalk for the night.* He wasn't anything spectacular but he did the job required. He didn't offer much going forward though. He was alright but still he needs to show more to merit a place in the first team.
Simon Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 He wasn't anything spectacular but he did the job required. He didn't offer much going forward though. He was alright but still he needs to show more to merit a place in the first team. That's more than Stearman offers then... get him in
Thracian Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Henderson 7 (Handled the ball well during some tricky moments and made some important saves). Cox 7 (Quietly competent and supported well) Garner 5 (Never truly dominant against some big attackers) Rowe-Turner 6 (Okay on the ball but vulnerable when the crosses came over) Kaebi 5 (At fault for one goal, perhaps partly at fault for another. Exposed in the air. Walsall identified him as a weakness and almost saved the game as a result. Vulnerable as a full-back) Odhiambo 7.5 (MoM for two well taken goals and a deccent all-roun contribution) Hellings 6 (Okay. Pity he went off. He and Hayes seem to be quite effective) Hayes 7 (One goal, one assist and lots of worthwhile contributions. Always chased back to try and right his mistakes) Djiziri 5 (Promising start, one decent shot. Minor hand in one goal. Faded second half) McKay 5.5 (Looked lively until his injury) Sappleton 6.75 (One goal and some thoughtful passes after a sluggish start). Subs: Chambers 7 (Two assists and close to a goal on two occasions although he should have done better with one. In and out of the game a bit but always a serious threat) Burns 4 (No great impact in midfield as City came under pressure towards the end) Kee 5 (Good control and sound passing in what was only a shortish appearance).
Koke Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Henderson 7 (Handled the ball well during some tricky moments and made some important saves).Cox 7 (Quietly competent and supported well) Garner 5 (Never truly dominant against some big attackers) Rowe-Turner 6 (Okay on the ball but vulnerable when the crosses came over) Kaebi 4.5 (Badly at fault for one goal, arguably at fault for another. Exposed in the air. No way a full-back.) Odhiambo 7.5 (MoM for two well taken goals and a deccent all-roun contribution) Hellings 6 (Okay. Pity he went off. He and Hayes seem to be quite effective) Hayes 7.25 (One goal, one assist and lots of worthwhile contributions. Always chased back to try and right his mistakes) Djiziri 5.5 (Promising start, one decent shot. Minor hand in one goal. Faded second half) McKay 6 (Looked lively until his injury) Sappleton 6.75 (One goal and some thoughtful passes after a sluggish start). Subs: Chambers 7 (Two assists and close to a goal on two occasions although he should have done better with one. In and out of the game a bit but always a serious threat) Burns 4 (No great impact in midfield as City came under pressure towards the end) Kee 5 (Good control and sound passing in what was only a shortish appearance). Was that for their 2nd and 3rd goal? By that time I was driving up Aylestone Road and nearly at home.
Koke Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 And I don't understand how you can rate Chambers so high. He had no ball control and his final passes were really sloppy.
Thracian Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Was that for their 2nd and 3rd goal? By that time I was driving up Aylestone Road and nearly at home. Yes. Probably a good job you missed them really.
Thracian Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 And I don't understand how you can rate Chambers so high. He had no ball control and his final passes were really sloppy. If you mean me then it's quite simple. I've spoken many times about players having effect. We have virtually no effect from wide positions in the first team. Chambers played almost right across the front line at different times tonight and, despite not being at his best he still made Odhiambo's second goal out of nothing with a shot which hit a post and bounced out. He then threaded the most perfectly executed pass through to the onrunning Hayes for our fourth and, as it turned out, winning goal. It was exactly the sort of pass we so rarely see in the first team and is invariably botched when someone does make an attempt. Yes, Chambers should have scored early in the second half with a shot against the goalkeeper that he put wide but he was there to have that shot and he'd beaten the visiting defence completely. Like I say, effect. It's not what forwards don't do but what they do do that matters. I'll take two assists from anyone. He might also have had a goal at the death as well had he attacked the defence instead of running into the corner to play out time.
Milans Foxes Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Henderson 7 (Handled the ball well during some tricky moments and made some important saves).Cox 7 (Quietly competent and supported well) Garner 5 (Never truly dominant against some big attackers) Rowe-Turner 6 (Okay on the ball but vulnerable when the crosses came over) Kaebi 4.5 (Badly at fault for one goal, arguably at fault for another. Exposed in the air. Walsall identified him as a weakness and almost saved the game as a result. No way a full-back.) Odhiambo 7.5 (MoM for two well taken goals and a deccent all-roun contribution) Hellings 6 (Okay. Pity he went off. He and Hayes seem to be quite effective) Hayes 7.25 (One goal, one assist and lots of worthwhile contributions. Always chased back to try and right his mistakes) Djiziri 5 (Promising start, one decent shot. Minor hand in one goal. Faded second half) McKay 5.5 (Looked lively until his injury) Sappleton 6.75 (One goal and some thoughtful passes after a sluggish start). Subs: Chambers 7 (Two assists and close to a goal on two occasions although he should have done better with one. In and out of the game a bit but always a serious threat) Burns 4 (No great impact in midfield as City came under pressure towards the end) Kee 5 (Good control and sound passing in what was only a shortish appearance). Agree with everything you've said mate but how you can give Kaebi such low a rating, I don't know. The guy was solid and was restricted by the role he was given. Made many important blocks and sliding tackles and his pace as the last man stopped the opposition hitting us on the counter a few times. I'm sure you just give him the lowest rating just to make a point so people who havn't been to the game automatically assume he isn't good enough!! Yes, he was maybe at fault but the best full-back in the world can be made to look bad by a quality through ball that the lad threaded through. And Chambers was no way good for a 7. He maybe assisted Hayes' goal. But the other came only after losing the ball and it bouncing off the defender into his path leaving him through, only then to hit the post with a sitter before it coming out to Odihiambo. Would hardly call that an assist! Everything else, pretty much spot on!
Fez of Mahrez Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 I feel so sorry for the kid. I can't imagine they have too many nights as cold as that in Iran - and our dickwad management put him at left-back. It's no better than when Maybury or Kenton were playing there for the first team last season. Seems to me like the club wants him to fail and it's just jobs for the boys. He might not be great in the air but then I'm sure a lot of teams would exploit Levi if we played him in defence. But no, let's not play to his strengths - let's play him where his weaknesses will be exploited the most and use it as an excuse to carry on with the same dross we've had in the first team for years. The whole thing makes me sick and I'll make no apologies for that. We finally sign an exciting player and the dourists in charge are determined to see him fail.
Jimmy Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Chambers was no where near a 7 and Kaebi was at least a 6
syston_fox Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 I noticed that Kaebi didnt look that comfortable at the left back position but I thought he did a fairly ok job. Not great but better than the 4.5 that Thrachian gave him - now way he was the worst of the players who started the game. What I did like about him was the way that when he won the ball at left back, he played the ball well. Stearman and co try and pick out a pass but hoof it out of play, with Kaebi the ball was played nicely down the line for Sappleton or he played a couple of 60 yard balls right to Sappleton's chest or into (i think it was) Odhiambo's feet. Lots of potential there though if he was played maybe on the right side or as Thrachian said a little further forward. He likes to flick the ball over oppositions heads as well which was nice to watch... And Chambers 7??? Yeah he set up a couple but apart from that I thought he wasnt any better than some of the others. Sappleton was the MOTM for me - big and strong and he took his goal very well.
Fat Ron Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Not gonna bother rating cause I dont work for the Sun so wont get paid for it... Kaebi - Very quick and had a good touch, passing a bit off at times...Slightly concerned at how small he looked against thier winger.. Thought he did ok at Left back although just seen on here some joker gave 8/9.... Hmmm No. Sappleton, could be superb if he could head the ball.. Strong, decent touch and what a ****ing shot... One to watch for the future. Already been mentioned on here but very Heskey like... Keep him away from the pies and on the vitemin drinks and I think we have one for the future Hayes bossed the midfield for City, looked very good I thought.. Gradel took his goals very well but looked a tad shady defensivly... Jury out... Chambers looked exciting when he came on, gave us a forward option and tended to drop back into midfield to look for the ball which was encouraging, 2 assists also will help to build his confidence would like to see him given a few games for the first team now..
syston_fox Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Gradel took his goals very well but looked a tad shady defensivly... Jury out... Poor Eric doesnt even get the recognition he deserves
Milans Foxes Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Not gonna bother rating cause I dont work for the Sun so wont get paid for it...Kaebi - Very quick and had a good touch, passing a bit off at times...Slightly concerned at how small he looked against thier winger.. Thought he did ok at Left back although just seen on here some joker gave 8/9.... Hmmm No. Sappleton, could be superb if he could head the ball.. Strong, decent touch and what a ****ing shot... One to watch for the future. Already been mentioned on here but very Heskey like... Keep him away from the pies and on the vitemin drinks and I think we have one for the future Hayes bossed the midfield for City, looked very good I thought.. Gradel took his goals very well but looked a tad shady defensivly... Jury out... Chambers looked exciting when he came on, gave us a forward option and tended to drop back into midfield to look for the ball which was encouraging, 2 assists also will help to build his confidence would like to see him given a few games for the first team now.. Odihiambo mate.
Fat Ron Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Poor Eric doesnt even get the recognition he deserves Aha...... Tricked you... I mean.... I concede..... Sorry Eric. Eric (not even gonna try and spell his surname.....) took his goals well but looked shady defensivly.... Jury out... Think anyone noticed.....?
Thracian Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Agree with everything you've said mate but how you can give Kaebi such low a rating, I don't know. The guy was solid and was restricted by the role he was given. Made many important blocks and sliding tackles and his pace as the last man stopped the opposition hitting us on the counter a few times. I'm sure you just give him the lowest rating just to make a point so people who havn't been to the game automatically assume he isn't good enough!! Yes, he was maybe at fault but the best full-back can be made to look bad by a quality through ball that the lad threaded through.And Chambers was no way good for a 7. He maybe assisted one goal. But only after losing the ball and it bouncing off the defender into his path leaving him through, only then to hit the post before coming out to Odihiambo. Would hardly call that an assist! Everything else, pretty much spot on! But Chambers assisted two goals directly. And it's a pity you've no access to a video of the way Walsall attacked City's left flank to get themselves back into the game. I even mentioned it specifically to the guy I was sat next to. Walsall pointedly did two things to attack Kaebi. They put a big man against him and hit our left-back position with crossfield and other probing passes. And they tried to hit Kaebi's far post with crosses into the penalty area from the left again stationing a giant forward at the post. Fortunately, apart from set pieces, Cox didn't give them much chance but the danger was clearly apparent at times. So pointed were the Walsall tactics that City sometimes pulled five back into midfield to stop the source of supply and I've rarely seen that happen in a Beaglehole side. All three Walsall goals came from the right, the first from a corner after play had developed that side and the last two were right through Kaebi's department, the second a low through ball which exposed him completely. There had been warnings in the first half, with headers on the far post from set pieces and one excellent one-two move which left Kaebi stranded. I wasn't too bothered about that, it was such a good move it would have troubled anyone. But the last 20 minutes almost cost us the game. As I've said so many times, Kaebi needs some games in a more forward position but even then I wonder if he's got the strength to cope with the physical demands of our football. Sliding tackles, speed and determination won't paper the cracks I've mentioned.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 But Chambers assisted two goals directly. And it's a pity you've no access to a video of the way Walsall attacked City's left flank to get themselves back into the game. I even mentioned it specifically to the guy I was sat next to. Walsall pointedly did two things to attack Kaebi. They put a big man against him and hit our left-back position with crossfield and other probing passes. And they tried to hit Kaebi's far post with crosses into the penalty area from the left again stationing a giant forward at the post. Fortunately, apart from set pieces, Cox didn't give them much chance but the danger was clearly apparent at times. So pointed were the Walsall tactics that City sometimes pulled five back into midfield to stop the source of supply and I've rarely seen that happen in a Beaglehole side. All three Walsall goals came from the right, the first from a corner after play had developed that side and the last two were right through Kaebi's department, the second a low through ball which exposed him completely. There had been warnings in the first half, with headers on the far post from set pieces and one excellent one-two move which left Kaebi stranded. I wasn't too bothered about that, it was such a good move it would have troubled anyone. But the last 20 minutes almost cost us the game. As I've said so many times, Kaebi needs some games in a more forward position but even then I wonder if he's got the strength to cope with the physical demands of our football. Sliding tackles, speed and determination won't paper the cracks I've mentioned. That's a rather damning indictment, but more of Beaglehole than Kaebi.
Jimmy Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 That's a rather damning indictment, but more of Beaglehole than Kaebi. exactly we didn't start to struggle until he put 2 strikers in midfield as holding players having staken both Hayes and Hellings off THEN they started to get the better of us
Thracian Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 Agree with everything you've said mate but how you can give Kaebi such low a rating, I don't know. The guy was solid and was restricted by the role he was given. Made many important blocks and sliding tackles and his pace as the last man stopped the opposition hitting us on the counter a few times. I'm sure you just give him the lowest rating just to make a point so people who havn't been to the game automatically assume he isn't good enough!! Yes, he was maybe at fault but the best full-back in the world can be made to look bad by a quality through ball that the lad threaded through.And Chambers was no way good for a 7. He maybe assisted Hayes' goal. But the other came only after losing the ball and it bouncing off the defender into his path leaving him through, only then to hit the post with a sitter before it coming out to Odihiambo. Would hardly call that an assist! Everything else, pretty much spot on! On reflection you're have a point and I've given him half a mark more. You are also partly right in what you say. Kaebi did do some decent things but I certainly don't remember lots of blocks as you suggest. Again, it is all about effect. Walsall were able to identify weaknesses and almost recover the game as a result. Yes the best full-backs can be exposed on occasions but when a side attacks one flank and scores three goals in 20 minutes you have to take notice. Sadly I have seen similar problems before. I'm sorry but all the canvassing in the world won't make Kaebi a reliable full-back. As for Chambers' first assist he did really well in using his speed to break through the covering defenders and his shot was never easy. In fact the angle was such that it was odds on the goalkeeper would block it. The chance was created from nothing and the shot was excellent.
Jimmy Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 As for Chambers' first assist he did really well in using his speed to break through the covering defenders and his shot was never easy. In fact the angle was such that it was odds on the goalkeeper would block it. The chance was created from nothing and the shot was excellent. he fooked up and lost the ball twice then and it was his speed that saved him
ASH17LCFC Posted 12 November 2007 Posted 12 November 2007 He plays on the left He plays on the right That boy Kaebi made figo look shite Should be sang on the next home game.
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