Walkers Atmosphere!

[davieG]

Waiting to hear back from Peter Jones RE: meeting.

I still think that a full switch of The 'kop' would be the best idea, take Villa, Birmingham games when the 'kop' was in full voice, we know there is passion there, its just hiding away.

Remember the threads on here with everyone saying how much they enjoyed the passion & noise, and standing in the 'kop' after those games?

I still don't know understand why people object to this.

Whilst I agree with what Davie is saying, people power in this country is long gone, the people wouldn't just 'move', look at NBlock, we gave people an opportunity, but most were too lazy to email the ticket office asking for a change and the rest would rather moan about it.

Just look at the fcking Gypo's on the carpark, if that was football fans on someone else's property the police would have gone in, Horses Battons the lot, but no they can't do that to Pikey wankers can they?

The fans should have caused a stir on saturday with them, fcking disgrace to the country those moronic twats are, and they way we deal with them.

30 Years ago, they wouldn't have the nerve to put up camp next to a stadium, the fans would have moved them. Now they can get away with attacking people. Excellent country.

I don't think the N block wasn't a failure it was scuppered by the scaredy pants at the Club. It needs time and timing for changes to work. Make the changes I'm suggesting at the beginning of the season and it could be entirely different.

Swapping/moving the Kop is not going to work, the majority are none vocal and will veto any move, my approach frees up the North Stand without disrupting the South Stand. You only have to contend with the criticism of the Families and the H&S you take the large voting mass of the Kop out of the equation.

[Sods]

Waiting to hear back from Peter Jones RE: meeting.

I still think that a full switch of The 'kop' would be the best idea, take Villa, Birmingham games when the 'kop' was in full voice, we know there is passion there, its just hiding away.

Remember the threads on here with everyone saying how much they enjoyed the passion & noise, and standing in the 'kop' after those games?

I still don't know understand why people object to this.

You are right, there is potential. You could see that as soon as southampton started singing at the leicester fans, it was just about heard. And shouts of small town in portsmouth occured. Although not every carried it on as i dont think everyone heard them sing. Is it worth setting up a singing section in the south stand? but i perhaps there is too many season ticket holders already.

[Floating Fox]

I don't think the N block wasn't a failure it was scuppered by the scaredy pants at the Club. It needs time and timing for changes to work. Make the changes I'm suggesting at the beginning of the season and it could be entirely different.

Swapping/moving the Kop is not going to work, the majority are none vocal and will veto any move, my approach frees up the North Stand without disrupting the South Stand. You only have to contend with the criticism of the Families and the H&S you take the large voting mass of the Kop out of the equation.

I disagree Davie, I'd say the majority are vocal in the "kop" they just need a kick up there arses. Whilst I think your idea may be worthwhile you'd get the idiots in the "kop" who'd complain about the families being within 5 Miles of them.

You are right, there is potential. You could see that as soon as southampton started singing at the leicester fans, it was just about heard. And shouts of small town in portsmouth occured. Although not every carried it on as i dont think everyone heard them sing. Is it worth setting up a singing section in the south stand? but i perhaps there is too many season ticket holders already.

I don't really think that the idea of a singing section there would work, as it still leaves the problem of the accoustics although if the people that try and sing in the kop all congregated to one area that would improve, if only slightly.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Oh yes I'd forgotten about the infamous "Small Town In Portsmouth"-style chant. That really is the nadir for me.

[Sods]

Oh yes I'd forgotten about the infamous "Small Town In Portsmouth"-style chant. That really is the nadir for me.

'Ya dirty southern bastards'

[davieG]

I disagree Davie, I'd say the majority are vocal in the "kop" they just need a kick up there arses. Whilst I think your idea may be worthwhile you'd get the idiots in the "kop" who'd complain about the families being within 5 Miles of them.

How many does the Kop hold 5, 6 7000 I sit in there and I'd be amazed if there was more than a 1000 singing other than for isoltated incidence, clapping and bouncing up to Chelsea dagger but singing to get the game moving absolutely no way.

Besides it's not relevant to my point, the aim of which is to get the vocal fans in the North Stand, there is no way that will be done on the back of swapping the Kop.

[Simi]

Of course you're right everyone is settled so it really comes down to how determined the club are to make this happen, you imply that they are for it and it's the H&S stopping them.

Moving the Families to the SE Corner should not be a problem because it's generally the last spot to be filled also the families need to be reminded that they are getting in cheap with under 8's free.

The H&S can surely raise no objection to that move. If you then made the North Stand Adults only with no concessions you would at least be targeting the 18's +, probably the most vocal of supporters, it would also exclude some of the mindless 14 year old Chavs (sorry for the stereotyping and oldies like me unless they were prepared to pay the full wack.

Ultimately any changes will piss some one off but this seems to me to be the least disruptive approach as from what I can see the North Stand is invariable less than half full.

It's never going to happen but they should also makes it unreserved so that fans can meet up and sit together without all having to buy tickets at the same time. Their excuses for not allowing unreserved seating is just that an excuse because many, many away trips end up as unreserved.

Having said all that I don't for one minute believe they want to change anything!!!

I agree with your idea about moving the families davieG, but the main problem is, the families are the main people that are bringing in the money and you will find they have a lot of pull when it comes to the club making decsions.

Just look at N Block, one of the so called "reasons" for making it ST holders only was because of complaints from the Family Stand. It just shows you how the times have changed in football. I'm sorry but if the actions of fans supporting there team upset families then quite frankly they shouldn't be next to the away fans anyway, 'cos I guarantee they're more troublesome than home support.

I tried my best to do something about the atmosphere at the walkers, and I'm still trying, but as you said Dan, people would rather go t'pub & moan about it than actually be pro-active.

Still no reply from PJ mate, getting annoyed now, get the feeling they're lining up the next excuse from the Health and Safety.

I think moving the families over to the south east corner or north west corner. would be a good idea as there isnt that many in the north stand already. It dosent look half full to be honest. The problem is, would the folk from L1 move over or would it just turn out like the n block? I think the best choice would be moving the away fans close to the south stand. Due to the fact a lot of people dont want to move, and the L block would then have to move.

But this will never happen due to the fact how the police would not allow it even though a new road could be set up, or a wall seperating the south stand and east stand would make the main singers have to walk past the west stand.

The family stand looked a joke on Saturday, without free tickets been given away it really does struggle to be half full! Why is this? Because they're all aloud in the Kop meaning the Kop is splattered with kids sitting there kicking chairs and all that.

You don't really need L Block to move, look at Southampton more or less the same ground as ours, they have fans either side of the away fans and that works perfectly for them. To say we don't have enough vocal support in the Kop is rubbish. Take a look at Villa and Brum and you can see it's there. Or anytime a bad decsion is made you get people up moaning. So they do have it in them.

If moving the Away fans is not going to happen there's not lot of point considering it an option.

As for the L1ers, I don't know plus it doesn't really matter if they don't move what's more important is that those that are moaning about the atmosphere, the kids in the Kop, the oldies in the Kop, the fair weather attendees etc are attracted to the the 'new' North Stand.

Good point davieG. I have no doubt that there are enough singers in the Kop to make it happen. Almost everywhere I go that's football related I hear people moan about the atmosphere. These people need to be pro active and support any ideas that come about. Just look at N Block, I doubt that sold out much but that was a great idea and it should of been a success, but people wait for something to be done for them.

I don't think the N block wasn't a failure it was scuppered by the scaredy pants at the Club. It needs time and timing for changes to work. Make the changes I'm suggesting at the beginning of the season and it could be entirely different.

Swapping/moving the Kop is not going to work, the majority are none vocal and will veto any move, my approach frees up the North Stand without disrupting the South Stand. You only have to contend with the criticism of the Families and the H&S you take the large voting mass of the Kop out of the equation.

Problem is Davie, Health and Safety have got a ton of excuses just waiting to be pulled out. The classic "pass it on debate" is always going to be used. Clubs pass the issue on to the league and the league pass it on to the Government. It's all a mass case of we don't know how to respond so we pass it on to someone else to save us the bother. It's a joke.

I've not been troubled by a steward in the Kop for three games now, sooner or later I know something is going to happen and people will be kicked out. They always have a little 'ejection flurry'

I disagree Davie, I'd say the majority are vocal in the "kop" they just need a kick up there arses. Whilst I think your idea may be worthwhile you'd get the idiots in the "kop" who'd complain about the families being within 5 Miles of them.

I don't really think that the idea of a singing section there would work, as it still leaves the problem of the accoustics although if the people that try and sing in the kop all congregated to one area that would improve, if only slightly.

To many season tickets I reckon mate. But if you look at areas like F2 I'd say hardly any season ticket holders are located there, that's probably the area that would make the most sense.]

Finally, if the club want to continue to play Hey Jude before kick off they should cut the last bit out so that you can hear the fans sing the Leicester bit. Having music before kick off really annoys me, but I realise it will always be there now 'cos of the attitude of the game.

[Bellend Sebastian]

Ie The 'Hey Jude' music when the players come out,hoping it will get everyone on their feet and start singing.

I think its pretty good,dont you?

I've got nothing against Jobber and his drum, but I think the loud music over the PA has the opposite of the one intended, in that if people are making some noise and that bloody thing starts, it drowns out whatever noise the crowd is making. The music after a goal is worst - as soon as it stops (20 seconds or so after a goal is scored) there's almost complete silence.

Not to mention the fact that it's by the fcuking Fratellis

[coale39]

I disagree with the lot of you. I think we should all treat it like a library and sit there in silence, studying the game. The players might perform better!

[Bellend Sebastian]

I disagree with the lot of you. I think we should all treat it like a library and sit there in silence, studying the game. The players might perform better!

I've been tempted to take a book to keep me occupied in the quieter periods*

* 3.00pm to 4.50pm

[WetFlannel]

I disagree with the lot of you. I think we should all treat it like a library and sit there in silence, studying the game. The players might perform better!

we can then create graphs whilst watching the game and analyse them on foxestalk?

[budfox]

I was at the Cardiff game, and to be fair there was a better atmosphere than usuall.This was probably down to the crowd size and Ollie factor (first home game).

I was also at the Man U - Sporting game the next day.There was 75,000 + at that game and United are doing well this season, but the atmosphere was flat.Pockets of United fans were singing at times, but for the most part half hearted.Also the amount of fans that missed the winning goal, by leaving early was unbelievable.

If we actually won some games at home, im sure the atmosphere would be better. Instead we are allways hanging on nervously, which doesent help.

[Joe.]

Swap the East and the West stand. That'll do it.

[Bellend Sebastian]

I was also at the Man U - Sporting game the next day.There was 75,000 + at that game and United are doing well this season, but the atmosphere was flat.Pockets of United fans were singing at times, but for the most part half hearted.Also the amount of fans that missed the winning goal, by leaving early was unbelievable.

It's a very good point. I've not been to every ground in the land by any stretch of the imagination but I've been to quite a few and it isn't often I leave an away ground thinking the atmosphere was any better than ours

[Joe.]

It's a very good point. I've not been to every ground in the land by any stretch of the imagination but I've been to quite a few and it isn't often I leave an away ground thinking the atmosphere was any better than ours

Agreed.

I think there's only ever been one ground where I came away thinking the home fans were really good- Southampton. They've got a great bunch of vocal fans.

[Floating Fox]

It's a very good point. I've not been to every ground in the land by any stretch of the imagination but I've been to quite a few and it isn't often I leave an away ground thinking the atmosphere was any better than ours

Thats not the point though.

Anyone who thinks cardiff was even a half-respectable atmosphere really does need to have their heads looking at and maybe go to a proper match.

[Staf]

I sit in the kop and i join in with most chants although when sing we songs like "stand up if you love leicester" i never do stand up because i know that the mardy arse behind me will telll me sit down

[James.]

Agreed.

I think there's only ever been one ground where I came away thinking the home fans were really good- Southampton. They've got a great bunch of vocal fans.

It's true.

For all their bravado Plymouth fans were shit at home. Bristol City were awful. Palace were poor, Luton last season pretty poor, QPR crap. Watford weren't great, I've been Craven Cottage this season and they were shit.

Southampton were quality. Your penned in with vocal supporters on either side. And they pretty much all stand as well.

The best home support this season though was on Friday night in Utrecht. Had a stag weekend in Amsterdam and went to FC Utrecht vs Sparta Rotterdam. Fantastic supporters. Singing, standing and generally having a bloody good laugh. And there were little to no away fans in sight. They didn't need banter, they just got on with supporting their team with a smile on their faces. We could learn a lot from that.

The fact it finished 7-1 probably helped...

[Sods]

I sit in the kop and i join in with most chants although when sing we songs like "stand up if you love leicester" i never do stand up because i know that the mardy arse behind me will telll me sit down

Just tell them you love leicester. If there that much of an mardy arse. Annoy them on purpose.

[WetFlannel]

I sit in the kop and i join in with most chants although when sing we songs like "stand up if you love leicester" i never do stand up because i know that the mardy arse behind me will telll me sit down

it isnt that really, i sat in f1 on saturday and when i stood up no-one else did apart from the few who sit a bit further back... i felt like a right idiot, i wont be joining in that one for a while...

[Simi]

I sit in the kop and i join in with most chants although when sing we songs like "stand up if you love leicester" i never do stand up because i know that the mardy arse behind me will telll me sit down

Move to the back then!!!!!

PRO ACTIVE!!!!

it isnt that really, i sat in f1 on saturday and when i stood up no-one else did apart from the few who sit a bit further back... i felt like a right idiot, i wont be joining in that one for a while...

That'd be me and Lildave3 probably Joe. Back row of F1 right hand side of the stairs looking at the pitch.

[Sods]

Move to the back then!!!!!

PRO ACTIVE!!!!

That'd be me and Lildave3 probably Joe. Back row of F1 right hand side of the stairs looking at the pitch.

Agreed theres plenty of seats near the back free and im sure no one will mind.

[WetFlannel]

That'd be me and Lildave3 probably Joe. Back row of F1 right hand side of the stairs looking at the pitch.

yep, i was sat in row HH so not far away...

[Fez of Mahrez]

There's loads free near us at the back of F1 but either your IQ or your age has to be above 18. I'm sick to death of idiots near us singing absolute bollocks for the sake of it. And yes, silence is preferable to Small Town in Portsmouth.

[Joe.]

There's loads free near us at the back of F1 but either your IQ or your age has to be above 18. I'm sick to death of idiots near us singing absolute bollocks for the sake of it. And yes, silence is preferable to Small Town in Portsmouth.

The lads directly next to you were complete nobs :laugh:

Some of the songs they were coming out with were actually embarassing.