FilboFox Posted 11 January 2008 Posted 11 January 2008 Bastard... do you even know what they do to chickens that are kept indoors? Its downright disgusting... the chickens have no room to move or even breathe as they have to eat and live amongst their own sh*t and fumes from it and then they get slaughtered without a care in the world!!!
coale39 Posted 11 January 2008 Posted 11 January 2008 and go without other things? the thing is (like has been said further up the thread, if you've read it) some people can't afford to buy fancy-dan chicken, without missing out on other supplies. Thats what im saying. Im sure most people can afford an extra £2 a week? Granted, some people might have extremely tight budgets for one reason or another but on the whole? Edit Unless you only ever eat standard chicken.
stez Posted 11 January 2008 Posted 11 January 2008 Bastard... do you even know what they do to chickens that are kept indoors? Its downright disgusting... the chickens have no room to move or even breathe as they have to eat and live amongst their own sh*t and fumes from it and then they get slaughtered without a care in the world!!! to be fair, free range and intensive chickens are slaughtered in exactly the same way,
stez Posted 11 January 2008 Posted 11 January 2008 Extra £2 for the chicken.Then the extra couple of quid for the beef. Dont forget to save the lambs... TBH, go back a few thousand years, actually a few hundred thousand years or whatever and we'd eat anything. Wouldn't matter how big it was. plus petrol, insurance, tax, heating bills, general food bills, electricity all going up faster than the average wage, where is my extra 2 quid coming from?
coale39 Posted 11 January 2008 Posted 11 January 2008 plus petrol, insurance, tax, heating bills, general food bills, electricity all going up faster than the average wage, where is my extra 2 quid coming from? But do you understand my argument that there is little difference between pets people keep and factory bred chickens? I find it hard to justify saying "No, you cant mistreat this dog" but turning a blind eye to other animal cruelty?
stez Posted 11 January 2008 Posted 11 January 2008 But do you understand my argument that there is little difference between pets people keep and factory bred chickens? I find it hard to justify saying "No, you cant mistreat this dog" but turning a blind eye to other animal cruelty? but technically they (well most animals, not including this weeks horses) are kept to 'minimum standards of care. i would like those minimum standards to be higher, but it comes back to price everytime.
Phube Posted 12 January 2008 Author Posted 12 January 2008 Channel 4! Watch this programme as it will change your views on chicken and how they are mass produced, and then packaged to confuse by supermarkets. I will still eat chicken but only free range after seeing this prog Do you get battery cows? No, cows can't thrive in bad conditions! i watched the hughes chicken run part of this series, and much as i like channel fours chefs, the ivory tower mentality of hugh F-W and jamie oliver is really beginning to grate on me now, i'm no tw@t and i know how (most) chickens are raised, and although it's not very nice, and in an ideal world they would all live lovely fluffy lives, but i care more about feeding my family on a very very low budget than i do about the welfare of a chicken, and as much as i hate using this argument (as they have all earned their money fairly and squarely) it is very easy for them to lord it over me (as thats how it feels) and make me feel bad, when they can afford to buy fluffy raised chickens, or cloud based cows and such like. If you can't afford it, buy it less often... It's what we used to cope with. You don't have to have chicken every day/week! I've seen it but they all taste the same There is a huge difference in quality. Buy a sh*tty chicken breast and an organic chicken breast. Even before you cook them you can instantly tell the difference.
purpleronnie Posted 12 January 2008 Posted 12 January 2008 What got me was that Fearnley-Whittingstall bloke goes on about cruelty to animals but admitted he climbs trees near his home and takes birds eggs from the nest to eat. Contradiction? It's all very well for millionaires to tell us to buy more expensive chicken but there are still plenty of families who struggle to pay for food every week to feed their families. We still treat animals better than humans in this country. Humans = first ANIMALS = Second
Webbo Posted 12 January 2008 Posted 12 January 2008 We had this a few years ago with pigs, every body was disgusted with the way they were reared and so the conditions changed and the price went up. The thing is all the people who complained saw that the mistreated Danish/Dutch bacon was much cheaper and bought that instead. As for the chickens tbh if I cared that much I'd be a vegetarian.
Rincewind Posted 12 January 2008 Posted 12 January 2008 I'm eating some fried battered chicken wings and chips now. I forgot to ask if the chickensran on batteries before they were put out of their misery for my benefit. I was just releived that the chicken was dead before I ate it.. Ib a perfect world the chickens would live a happy life and run merrilly up the chopping knife when it was their turn to visit the great kitchen in the sky and the afterlife which is our dining table.
stez Posted 12 January 2008 Posted 12 January 2008 If you can't afford it, buy it less often... It's what we used to cope with. You don't have to have chicken every day/week! actually all this is immaterial (for me) cos i hardly ever buy chicken it's what we currently do, even with rock bottom prices, for the reasons i gave earlier in the thread We had this a few years ago with pigs, every body was disgusted with the way they were reared and so the conditions changed and the price went up. The thing is all the people who complained saw that the mistreated Danish/Dutch bacon was much cheaper and bought that instead.As for the chickens tbh if I cared that much I'd be a vegetarian. exactly! india, france, china, holland, or whoever, will produce chickens, in far worse conditions, if the british trade was stopped. as was made clear last night
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