Sir Ian of Holloway

[Chromophobia]

that's a Holloway/Partridge-esque title there for the funnies.

Down to business, yeah yeah yet another Holloway thread you're all screaming, but I'm just chucking my thruppence worth in.

When he came to Leicester, alarm bells were ringing ever so slightly about what he had said while still manager of Plymouth. 'Loving' the place, definitely not leaving, etc. we all know what he said... I think this showed before he even came to us that the man has no integrity or honesty. Obviously I'm well aware of the lack of honesty in professional football, especially the higher up the leagues you go, it get's more and more dishonest/unloyal, etc.

However any good football manager worth their salt surely would've have just made no comment on the speculation, instead of baffingly denying anything, only to go against what you've said days later. Fair enough you don't know what's going on behind the scenes of these things, but still a 'no comment' would have sufficed and would have saved Holloway from at least a third of the abuse he's recieved from Plymouth fans. I know this might sound a bit naive to expect this from a football manager, but personally for a team that I support I'd like to at least have a modicum of respect for the manager.

I did actually like Holloway when he came to Leicester, I thought he was exactly what the club needed. A motivational relatively young and enthusiastic manager. It's becoming increasingly clear however that he is a chancer, and not just a chancer but a complete and utter chancer. He has columns left right and centre, the most high profile one being the BBC one (which is getting worse and worse by the week might I add) and I believe he has others too? In shoddy red top newspapers? Anyways, the point is, he clearly loves the attention this get's him. As everyone has become aware of, the last month or so, he seems to say the right things (passing the ball, not hoofing it, etc.) yet we don't see the fruits of any of his talk on the pitch(bearing Norwich), surely it can't just be the players who aren't listening to a word he says? My guess is that he is tactically clueless and motivationally vacant. It's not a guess though really is it, the proof has been there for all to see. He's had long enough to get his team motivated i'm afraid. Look at Roeder and Warnock, Norwich and CrysPal aren't significantly better teams than us, they're not worse either, and despite their poor starts with those teams that weren't doing well, they both quickly impressed their ideologies on their teams and went on long unbeaten runs. Holloway has had long enough to do this.

Another thing is how much emphasis he placed on the transfer window, a good manager would've kept their mouth shut and done the best with what they had and quietly gone about improving with additional players, I'd have thought. The fuss Holloway made over this was a bit odd and puerile to say the least. And another thing people are mentioning about how he never takes on board any of the blame for a bad performance. You have to wonder wether the players actually like him and wether he's giving them any kind of tactical instructions whatsoever, other than "play some good football lads."

In conclusion, I don't like Holloway anymore, not just because Leicester aren't doing well, if we suddenly start winning, I woulnd't jump on any kind of "I loved Holloway all along" bandwagon, I've just realised what a chancer he is. He is all mouth and no football I'm afraid to say. I don't think he'll get us to the premiership, not that he should of course, but it's what we all want to see. The best I can see him doing is upper middle table next season if he's still here.

If Mandaric does sack him though, he's going to have to get a serious straight up manager in, not Ian Dowie, or Billy Davies but someone who has a clear ideology when it comes to playing football, and someone who has some godamn tactical knowledge and inspires the players. Someone like Steve McClaren perhaps?

*incoherent rant over*

[Vardinhio]

[coale39]

that's a Holloway/Partridge-esque title there for the funnies.

Down to business, yeah yeah yet another Holloway thread you're all screaming, but I'm just chucking my thruppence worth in.

When he came to Leicester, alarm bells were ringing ever so slightly about what he had said while still manager of Plymouth. 'Loving' the place, definitely not leaving, etc. we all know what he said... I think this showed before he even came to us that the man has no integrity or honesty. Obviously I'm well aware of the lack of honesty in professional football, especially the higher up the leagues you go, it get's more and more dishonest/unloyal, etc.

However any good football manager worth their salt surely would've have just made no comment on the speculation, instead of baffingly denying anything, only to go against what you've said days later. Fair enough you don't know what's going on behind the scenes of these things, but still a 'no comment' would have sufficed and would have saved Holloway from at least a third of the abuse he's recieved from Plymouth fans. I know this might sound a bit naive to expect this from a football manager, but personally for a team that I support I'd like to at least have a modicum of respect for the manager.

I did actually like Holloway when he came to Leicester, I thought he was exactly what the club needed. A motivational relatively young and enthusiastic manager. It's becoming increasingly clear however that he is a chancer, and not just a chancer but a complete and utter chancer. He has columns left right and centre, the most high profile one being the BBC one (which is getting worse and worse by the week might I add) and I believe he has others too? In shoddy red top newspapers? Anyways, the point is, he clearly loves the attention this get's him. As everyone has become aware of, the last month or so, he seems to say the right things (passing the ball, not hoofing it, etc.) yet we don't see the fruits of any of his talk on the pitch(bearing Norwich), surely it can't just be the players who aren't listening to a word he says? My guess is that he is tactically clueless and motivationally vacant. It's not a guess though really is it, the proof has been there for all to see. He's had long enough to get his team motivated i'm afraid. Look at Roeder and Warnock, Norwich and CrysPal aren't significantly better teams than us, they're not worse either, and despite their poor starts with those teams that weren't doing well, they both quickly impressed their ideologies on their teams and went on long unbeaten runs. Holloway has had long enough to do this.

Another thing is how much emphasis he placed on the transfer window, a good manager would've kept their mouth shut and done the best with what they had and quietly gone about improving with additional players, I'd have thought. The fuss Holloway made over this was a bit odd and puerile to say the least. And another thing people are mentioning about how he never takes on board any of the blame for a bad performance. You have to wonder wether the players actually like him and wether he's giving them any kind of tactical instructions whatsoever, other than "play some good football lads."

In conclusion, I don't like Holloway anymore, not just because Leicester aren't doing well, if we suddenly start winning, I woulnd't jump on any kind of "I loved Holloway all along" bandwagon, I've just realised what a chancer he is. He is all mouth and no football I'm afraid to say. I don't think he'll get us to the premiership, not that he should of course, but it's what we all want to see. The best I can see him doing is upper middle table next season if he's still here.

If Mandaric does sack him though, he's going to have to get a serious straight up manager in, not Ian Dowie, or Billy Davies but someone who has a clear ideology when it comes to playing football, and someone who has some godamn tactical knowledge and inspires the players. Someone like Steve McClaren perhaps?

*incoherent rant over*

Steve McClaren

[Chromophobia]

I guess I should've put some kind of *ironic* disclaimer warning at the end of the post for those without a sense of humour.

[The Reverend]

that's a Holloway/Partridge-esque title there for the funnies.

Down to business, yeah yeah yet another Holloway thread you're all screaming, but I'm just chucking my thruppence worth in.

When he came to Leicester, alarm bells were ringing ever so slightly about what he had said while still manager of Plymouth. 'Loving' the place, definitely not leaving, etc. we all know what he said... I think this showed before he even came to us that the man has no integrity or honesty. Obviously I'm well aware of the lack of honesty in professional football, especially the higher up the leagues you go, it get's more and more dishonest/unloyal, etc.

However any good football manager worth their salt surely would've have just made no comment on the speculation, instead of baffingly denying anything, only to go against what you've said days later. Fair enough you don't know what's going on behind the scenes of these things, but still a 'no comment' would have sufficed and would have saved Holloway from at least a third of the abuse he's recieved from Plymouth fans. I know this might sound a bit naive to expect this from a football manager, but personally for a team that I support I'd like to at least have a modicum of respect for the manager.

I did actually like Holloway when he came to Leicester, I thought he was exactly what the club needed. A motivational relatively young and enthusiastic manager. It's becoming increasingly clear however that he is a chancer, and not just a chancer but a complete and utter chancer. He has columns left right and centre, the most high profile one being the BBC one (which is getting worse and worse by the week might I add) and I believe he has others too? In shoddy red top newspapers? Anyways, the point is, he clearly loves the attention this get's him. As everyone has become aware of, the last month or so, he seems to say the right things (passing the ball, not hoofing it, etc.) yet we don't see the fruits of any of his talk on the pitch(bearing Norwich), surely it can't just be the players who aren't listening to a word he says? My guess is that he is tactically clueless and motivationally vacant. It's not a guess though really is it, the proof has been there for all to see. He's had long enough to get his team motivated i'm afraid. Look at Roeder and Warnock, Norwich and CrysPal aren't significantly better teams than us, they're not worse either, and despite their poor starts with those teams that weren't doing well, they both quickly impressed their ideologies on their teams and went on long unbeaten runs. Holloway has had long enough to do this.

Another thing is how much emphasis he placed on the transfer window, a good manager would've kept their mouth shut and done the best with what they had and quietly gone about improving with additional players, I'd have thought. The fuss Holloway made over this was a bit odd and puerile to say the least. And another thing people are mentioning about how he never takes on board any of the blame for a bad performance. You have to wonder wether the players actually like him and wether he's giving them any kind of tactical instructions whatsoever, other than "play some good football lads."

In conclusion, I don't like Holloway anymore, not just because Leicester aren't doing well, if we suddenly start winning, I woulnd't jump on any kind of "I loved Holloway all along" bandwagon, I've just realised what a chancer he is. He is all mouth and no football I'm afraid to say. I don't think he'll get us to the premiership, not that he should of course, but it's what we all want to see. The best I can see him doing is upper middle table next season if he's still here.

If Mandaric does sack him though, he's going to have to get a serious straight up manager in, not Ian Dowie, or Billy Davies but someone who has a clear ideology when it comes to playing football, and someone who has some godamn tactical knowledge and inspires the players. Someone like Steve McClaren perhaps?

*incoherent rant over*

People mention the Warnocks and the Roeders who are doing well, but conveniently forget about managers who've came in at a similar time i.e Alan Irvine at Preston who isnt doing great, Di Canio at QPR who should be doing better with the money spent, Southamptons manager i dont think has won a game yet.

Its the luck of the draw, some manage to get the players firing straight away, others take longer to impress their footballing ways upon the players. Unfortunately, its taking Holloway longer than we thought, thats football, thats life, we'll have to be patient, and hopefully it'll pay off.

[Thracian]

that's a Holloway/Partridge-esque title there for the funnies.

Down to business, yeah yeah yet another Holloway thread you're all screaming, but I'm just chucking my thruppence worth in.

When he came to Leicester, alarm bells were ringing ever so slightly about what he had said while still manager of Plymouth. 'Loving' the place, definitely not leaving, etc. we all know what he said... I think this showed before he even came to us that the man has no integrity or honesty. Obviously I'm well aware of the lack of honesty in professional football, especially the higher up the leagues you go, it get's more and more dishonest/unloyal, etc.

However any good football manager worth their salt surely would've have just made no comment on the speculation, instead of baffingly denying anything, only to go against what you've said days later. Fair enough you don't know what's going on behind the scenes of these things, but still a 'no comment' would have sufficed and would have saved Holloway from at least a third of the abuse he's recieved from Plymouth fans. I know this might sound a bit naive to expect this from a football manager, but personally for a team that I support I'd like to at least have a modicum of respect for the manager.

I did actually like Holloway when he came to Leicester, I thought he was exactly what the club needed. A motivational relatively young and enthusiastic manager. It's becoming increasingly clear however that he is a chancer, and not just a chancer but a complete and utter chancer. He has columns left right and centre, the most high profile one being the BBC one (which is getting worse and worse by the week might I add) and I believe he has others too? In shoddy red top newspapers? Anyways, the point is, he clearly loves the attention this get's him. As everyone has become aware of, the last month or so, he seems to say the right things (passing the ball, not hoofing it, etc.) yet we don't see the fruits of any of his talk on the pitch(bearing Norwich), surely it can't just be the players who aren't listening to a word he says? My guess is that he is tactically clueless and motivationally vacant. It's not a guess though really is it, the proof has been there for all to see. He's had long enough to get his team motivated i'm afraid. Look at Roeder and Warnock, Norwich and CrysPal aren't significantly better teams than us, they're not worse either, and despite their poor starts with those teams that weren't doing well, they both quickly impressed their ideologies on their teams and went on long unbeaten runs. Holloway has had long enough to do this.

Another thing is how much emphasis he placed on the transfer window, a good manager would've kept their mouth shut and done the best with what they had and quietly gone about improving with additional players, I'd have thought. The fuss Holloway made over this was a bit odd and puerile to say the least. And another thing people are mentioning about how he never takes on board any of the blame for a bad performance. You have to wonder wether the players actually like him and wether he's giving them any kind of tactical instructions whatsoever, other than "play some good football lads."

In conclusion, I don't like Holloway anymore, not just because Leicester aren't doing well, if we suddenly start winning, I woulnd't jump on any kind of "I loved Holloway all along" bandwagon, I've just realised what a chancer he is. He is all mouth and no football I'm afraid to say. I don't think he'll get us to the premiership, not that he should of course, but it's what we all want to see. The best I can see him doing is upper middle table next season if he's still here.

If Mandaric does sack him though, he's going to have to get a serious straight up manager in, not Ian Dowie, or Billy Davies but someone who has a clear ideology when it comes to playing football, and someone who has some godamn tactical knowledge and inspires the players. Someone like Steve McClaren perhaps?

*incoherent rant over*

Apart from your last five words and lack of paragraphs that was a pretty good read and most of it reflects the comment made by a reserves regular recently who said "I don't know for sure but I've a horrible feeling Holloway's guy's right out of his depth."

[DJ Barry Hammond]

Ok lets look at a few things mentioned around this forum:

1.) Ollie out of his dept?

Well he kept Plymouth up and got them progressing in the Championship - 3/4 years ago you wouldn't have known Home Park was their ground let alone contemplate how difficult obtaining 3 pts would be there

2.) Moaning about him Praising or/and/not Criticising Players/Performances?

Well lets face it he's going to say something one way or another? At the start he was demanding more passion etc. Confidence is clearly low when we go down by a goal so no he's trying to use praise to curb that. Moral and spirit is important in the camp with the situation we're in, and I can't see we've had much of that 'foxes never quit' for a while (except in some cup games maybe.) but I can see Ollie wants to install that attitude.

3.) Transfer Window

We've had a couple of false dawn's since the transfer window - I make that one more than before it. (Coventry Home and Norwih Home verus Bristol City Away.) So you could view that as improvement.

Be fair, people could see width was needed. He's tried to address that with his signings, Oakley was an interesting and seems fairly decent, Alnwick a needed replacement for Fulop. Hayles - well he's Barry isn't he, you knew he'd come, and I can see why he likes him - if all our players put in his application (minus his actual talent.) then we surely wouldn't be in this position.

4.) Hoof Ball

You could blame him for this as he brought in Howard a target man - but every team needs one. Equally I'm sure we played a fair amount of Hoof before Ollie - but the games I've seen (and true thats not many, and I can imagine some were pretty crap.) haven't been as dull as Megson or Kelly's.

5.) Poor performances from Clemence / Hume - not dropping them or hanging them out to dry

I'd would guess that no direct critiscism has come from Ollie as he knows that a.) that would make a rod for his own back b.) he needs these players on side if we're to start performing - they are quality in our squad.

6.) Chucking in youth players

Not the best situation to try them - maybe he should but again, if it doesn't work who will get the blame??? Gradel's clearly enjoying his football in Bournemouth so you wouldn't blame him if he didn't want to come back to us for the time being - plus Hume's playing right wing. (Where he can play by the way, he is not just a striker!)

7.) Too many off-field activites

At least we get to hear what he has to say - and from the stuff i read, he wants the same as any fan, to win. I'm sure the situation is annoying and hurting him as much as all of us. Plus this is surely a plus point from MM's view. (As long as he doesn't slag MM off!)

8.) Players, playing out of position

Don't see as much of this as before? It's not right backs or strikers FC anymore is it? As i say above, Hume can play right wing so I have no problem with that.

End of the day, it's almost March and we have what we have - Sacking now would not be a good choice in my opinion.

SO as supporters we need to discard any doubts we have and just back these players to the hill - sing our hearts out even in we are 2, 3 nil down, because that will go some way to improve the players moral - and it's all we can really do as fans.

If at 1-0 down the place goes quite (because we know as do the players we're not going to come back from this.) then thats not going to help is it. So sod it, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing.

Ian Holloways Barmy Army, Ian Holloways Barmy Army.

[Wherethefoxhat?]

People mention the Warnocks and the Roeders who are doing well, but conveniently forget about managers who've came in at a similar time i.e Alan Irvine at Preston who isnt doing great, Di Canio at QPR who should be doing better with the money spent, Southamptons manager i dont think has won a game yet.

Its the luck of the draw, some manage to get the players firing straight away, others take longer to impress their footballing ways upon the players. Unfortunately, its taking Holloway longer than we thought, thats football, thats life, we'll have to be patient, and hopefully it'll pay off.

So now we're really clutching at straws ! -----------comparing our auspicious seasoned manager with two former COACHES & some foreign guy tasting his first experience as a manager in England !!

Jesus wept !!

[AyewJoking]

Apart from your last five words and lack of paragraphs that was a pretty good read and most of it reflects the comment made by a reserves regular recently who said "I don't know for sure but I've a horrible feeling Holloway's guy's right out of his depth."

B - it is then sir.

[The Reverend]

So now we're really clutching at straws ! -----------comparing our auspicious seasoned manager with two former COACHES & some foreign guy tasting his first experience as a manager in England !!

Jesus wept !!

Most managers start out as coaches you plank.

Another example is Phil Brown. Shite at Derby a few seasons ago, now hes turned Hull around into play off hunters. Luck a the draw.

[Flynny]

I actually wouldn't mind McLaren. The England job's hard to do and the media pressure is intense. I think he'd do a much better job at this level.

Thracian, surely you'd be in favour of someone with a history of getting young players involved?

[MikeyT]

Steve McClaren

I know!!!

[Chromophobia]

the McClaren thing was clearly a joke, it needs no discussion, he isn't coming to Leicester. He's a shit stain on the footballing map of England and forever will be. I'm not particularly bothered about England not being in euro'08 I will probably enjoy supporting Spain more anyways.

Another thing, people have touched upon, is why-oh-why is Holloway playing a 4-4-2 every week, Gary Megson as shit as he is a manager, saw we had no width and set a formation accordingly, you don't have to play a 4-3-3 or 3-5-2 and not play good attacking football. His strict adherance to one formation is gruesome. We still don't have quality wide players, Lazcko doesn't suit the Championship at all, i'm not going to call him shit though.

[MPH]

that's a Holloway/Partridge-esque title there for the funnies.

Down to business, yeah yeah yet another Holloway thread you're all screaming, but I'm just chucking my thruppence worth in.

When he came to Leicester, alarm bells were ringing ever so slightly about what he had said while still manager of Plymouth. 'Loving' the place, definitely not leaving, etc. we all know what he said... I think this showed before he even came to us that the man has no integrity or honesty. Obviously I'm well aware of the lack of honesty in professional football, especially the higher up the leagues you go, it get's more and more dishonest/unloyal, etc.

However any good football manager worth their salt surely would've have just made no comment on the speculation, instead of baffingly denying anything, only to go against what you've said days later. Fair enough you don't know what's going on behind the scenes of these things, but still a 'no comment' would have sufficed and would have saved Holloway from at least a third of the abuse he's recieved from Plymouth fans. I know this might sound a bit naive to expect this from a football manager, but personally for a team that I support I'd like to at least have a modicum of respect for the manager.

I did actually like Holloway when he came to Leicester, I thought he was exactly what the club needed. A motivational relatively young and enthusiastic manager. It's becoming increasingly clear however that he is a chancer, and not just a chancer but a complete and utter chancer. He has columns left right and centre, the most high profile one being the BBC one (which is getting worse and worse by the week might I add) and I believe he has others too? In shoddy red top newspapers? Anyways, the point is, he clearly loves the attention this get's him. As everyone has become aware of, the last month or so, he seems to say the right things (passing the ball, not hoofing it, etc.) yet we don't see the fruits of any of his talk on the pitch(bearing Norwich), surely it can't just be the players who aren't listening to a word he says? My guess is that he is tactically clueless and motivationally vacant. It's not a guess though really is it, the proof has been there for all to see. He's had long enough to get his team motivated i'm afraid. Look at Roeder and Warnock, Norwich and CrysPal aren't significantly better teams than us, they're not worse either, and despite their poor starts with those teams that weren't doing well, they both quickly impressed their ideologies on their teams and went on long unbeaten runs. Holloway has had long enough to do this.

Another thing is how much emphasis he placed on the transfer window, a good manager would've kept their mouth shut and done the best with what they had and quietly gone about improving with additional players, I'd have thought. The fuss Holloway made over this was a bit odd and puerile to say the least. And another thing people are mentioning about how he never takes on board any of the blame for a bad performance. You have to wonder wether the players actually like him and wether he's giving them any kind of tactical instructions whatsoever, other than "play some good football lads."

In conclusion, I don't like Holloway anymore, not just because Leicester aren't doing well, if we suddenly start winning, I woulnd't jump on any kind of "I loved Holloway all along" bandwagon, I've just realised what a chancer he is. He is all mouth and no football I'm afraid to say. I don't think he'll get us to the premiership, not that he should of course, but it's what we all want to see. The best I can see him doing is upper middle table next season if he's still here.

If Mandaric does sack him though, he's going to have to get a serious straight up manager in, not Ian Dowie, or Billy Davies but someone who has a clear ideology when it comes to playing football, and someone who has some godamn tactical knowledge and inspires the players. Someone like Steve McClaren perhaps?

*incoherent rant over*

credability of post now = 0

[Thracian]

I actually wouldn't mind McLaren. The England job's hard to do and the media pressure is intense. I think he'd do a much better job at this level.

Thracian, surely you'd be in favour of someone with a history of getting young players involved?

Yes but does it have to be such a smug, self-satisfied arsehole as McLaren?

I just cannot believe how badly he did with England and how easily people forgive.

Right now if there were changes at City I'd back the Beaglehole/Taggart/Stowell team.

I'd want people who know the club, know the players and who will hopefully build our team properly IF they don't lose their nerve when the stakes are raised and go all defensive again.

Then I'd like Kishishev/Beaglehole involved with the reserves.

Kish is a gem. His enhusiasm is infectious. He clearly loves the game and when I talk about someone who can really help players come through he's exactly the sort I mean.

All those international caps, all the good grade football and he plays for the reserves like its a cup final.

Puts a few we've had here to shame.

[Flynny]

I just cannot believe how badly he did with England and how easily people forgive.

Right now I'd back the Beaglehole/Taggart/Stowell team.

Excuse me for having a little smile in your general direction.

I'd rather have Ince or another winner who won't take any shit if we do change managers, but McLaren wouldn't be awful and wouldn't clash with Milan like the kind of manager we really need probably would.

[shen]

credability of post now = 0

It was a humourous comment, but apparently nobody ever reads a whole thread nowadays...

[Mr Happy]

Yes but does it have to be such a smug, self-satisfied arsehole as McLaren?

Then I'd like Kishishev/Beaglehole involved with the reserves.

Kish is a gem. His enhusiasm is infectious. He clearly loves the game and when I talk about someone who can really help players come through he's exactly the sort I mean.

All those international caps, all the good grade football and he plays for the reserves like its a cup final.

Puts a few we've had here to shame.

Do you happen to know what the deal with Kish is? I mean hes back from his loan spell and made the bench for the Plymouth game but hasn't been seen since. Are his playing days here numbered? Or he is just injured?

[Thracian]

Excuse me for having a little smile in your general direction.

I'd rather have Ince or another winner who won't take any shit if we do change managers, but McLaren wouldn't be awful and wouldn't clash with Milan like the kind of manager we really need probably would.

But we're not getting Ince are we?

Or anyone else who's half exciting and probably for the reasons you mention.

There'll be potentially 10/11 ex-Academy players around the first team next season with any luck and I know who I'd trust to build a squad around them.

I've had enough this season of unresearched players, indifferent foreign mercenaries and the quick-fix rent-a-crowd philosophy.

As I said before MM took over. I'd rather we built on rock than sand.

[Wherethefoxhat?]

Most managers start out as coaches you plank.

Another example is Phil Brown. Shite at Derby a few seasons ago, now hes turned Hull around into play off hunters. Luck a the draw.

Listen for once you dipstick !

The two more successful managers you've mentioned ,Warnock & Roeder were NOT coaches, & the majority of illustrious managers(including our own Martin O'Neill) were not coaches either !!

[Thracian]

Do you happen to know what the deal with Kish is? I mean hes back from his loan spell and made the bench for the Plymouth game but hasn't been seen since. Are his playing days here numbered? Or he is just injured?

He's fit, well and playing for the reserves in midfield. And doing a cracking job from what I've seen.

It doesn't look as if he's on his last legs but while we've got him here, why not try to conjure up a role that suits his requirements and makes some use of what he's got to offer.

Register him as a squad member, use him as a senior player/coach in the reserves, let him get his badges and see where it leads to, always assuming he fancies it.

A club like ours needs people like Kish around and I don't mean just for display but to work hard in showing people the right ways and to set an example. It alright having coaches on the sidlines but you also need people who can join in and talk to people within the game itself.

[The Reverend]

Listen for once you dipstick !

The two more successful managers you've mentioned ,Warnock & Roeder were NOT coaches, & the majority of illustrious managers(including our own Martin O'Neill) were not coaches either !!

And neither is Holloway.

So i dont really see your point.

[blu]

And neither is Holloway.

So i dont really see your point.

ollie does not know what he is doing - get rid.

[DanTheFoxBhoy]

@ 'no integrity or honesty'

He's a football manager ffs

Every player in the system must be a turncoat for switching teams

[wirralsimon]

I can't believe that people think the solution to our ills is sacking the manager and getting yet another one in.

We are changing managers with increasing frequency and deciding that they are useless within an increasingly short timescale.

Judged by results Ollie has done reasonably well at his previous clubs, and we were a club in need of a lot of turning around. Lets give him until Christmas at least before starting the merry go round once again.

Simon