Keep Holloway

[The People's Hero]

I've had a lovely walk round Maidstone town centre this morning - very quiet as so many people are at ONE BIG WEEKEND. (I can hear it from my flat)

Purchased myself some nice cheap dvds and had a sandwich in the park. Lovely.

Back outside in a minute to enjoy some more sunshine and then later on I'll have a couple of beers and watch tv.

LCFC is not good at the moment - we're all hurting - but spending a lovely summers day in front of your computer bitching and moaning about Holloway and getting your 'I told you so' comments in is helping no one Thracian, least of all yourself. Get yourself a nice beer and some nibbles and go and sit in the garden with your wife. Seriously, this weather won't last forever.

[Thracian]

Thracian, it's a lovely summers day.

Get the fu ck over yourself and enjoy your life.

I've just watched United win the League and offer further testimony to the benefits of attacking football. But when the dust has settled Leicester remain pencilled into Division One as victims of their own mediocrity and their refusal to play with the enjoyment you mention. And you ask me to be cheerful. It hurts. In fact I never dreamed it would keep hurting this bad.

And endless columns about keeping the bloke responsible only make it worse.

[The People's Hero]

Thracian, it's a forum where you'll encounter different opinions. Football is never as black and white as there being definite rights or wrongs.

Personally I don't think IH has what it takes. That's my own opinion. That said, MM has made a bit of a rod for his own back now as his reputation goes well before him. Would you work for him?

The important thing to remember though is that while we care so much- we're not the decision makers. And that's right in a way. Although MM has a poor record of getting managers in - every LCFC fan has their own idea who they want. Its really not worth fighting over! See what happens.

I'm personally just trying to enjoy my summer and will take each bit of LCFC news etc as it comes.

[teblin]

Thracian, it's a forum where you'll encounter different opinions. Football is never as black and white as there being definite rights or wrongs.

Personally I don't think IH has what it takes. That's my own opinion. That said, MM has made a bit of a rod for his own back now as his reputation goes well before him. Would you work for him?

The important thing to remember though is that while we care so much- we're not the decision makers. And that's right in a way. Although MM has a poor record of getting managers in - every LCFC fan has their own idea who they want. Its really not worth fighting over! See what happens.

I'm personally just trying to enjoy my summer and will take each bit of LCFC news etc as it comes.

Good post!

I'm sure everything will be clearer next week, lets just ride the wave, all we can do really.

[Thracian]

But isolated incidents , Your a big fan of Keegan but when England played Portugal (euro 2000) we led 2-0 and it was blindinly obvious that a Possesion game was required with patience when building attacks but he continued his "gung ho" approach and it cost us dear .

Attacking football is superb on the eye , i love it . But football has changed , in the 60s and 70s wingers were almost part of the forward line , nowadays they are expected to work like horses getting back to support full backs much to the detriment of the game . Today football is purely about results

Sadly you might have a point there. And to have touched on the reason I've been soul-searching about whether to renew my season ticket or even watch any football but the reserves/academy.

Results, I think, were always important. It's just the way people believed they could get results that changed with the resulting shifting of the pendulum away from the need to entertain towards the desperate need to get into the money.

You're right about Keegan to the extent that I believe he has an exhilerating influence. He gets his teams to be positive, he goes for goals and his passion in that direction stirs the fans.

But don't think that admiration blinds me to his tactical shortcomings. It doesn't. Successful attacking requires numbers but it also needs to be calculating and accurate.

[Sparky]

Sadly you might have a point there. And to have touched on the reason I've been soul-searching about whether to renew my season ticket or even watch any football but the reserves/academy.

Results, I think, were always important. It's just the way people believed they could get results that changed with the resulting shifting of the pendulum away from the need to entertain towards the desperate need to get into the money.

You're right about Keegan to the extent that I believe he has an exhilerating influence. He gets his teams to be positive, he goes for goals and his passion in that direction stirs the fans.

But don't think that admiration blinds me to his tactical shortcomings. It doesn't. Successful attacking requires numbers but it also needs to be calculating and accurate.

Yeah thats my view also , anyways are we gonna see you at the foxestalk match next week ?

[clazkel]

Well he signed two immobile centre forwards and moved our only decent striker out on to the wing or left him on the bench. He consistently told the players they were shit in public which evidently demoralised the squad. He changed formation every 5 minutes through matches leaving us with absaloutely no shape whatsoever. These are the reasoned he dragged us into a relegation position, its not like he cam elate in the season and couldn't get us out of it. He came in November, when we were mid table, spent a lot of money in january, and dragged us down.

If that is a manager that couldn't have done much else then you are pretty much saying the manager has no effect whatsoever and it is all down to players. Bonkers.

Totally agree with you, his tactics were poor, to keep playing Howard when it was't working was Holloways choice, playing Clapham over Mattock when Mattock is much better going forward was Hollways choice, and some of the substitutions didn't make sense or they were made too late. These were Holloways choices, and many of them i couldn't understand. Hume should've been playing upfront with Hayles/Fryatt or DJ not Howard, they don't link up with each other. Fryatt/Hayles and DJ might've not scored many goals this season but if we wanted to see the best out of Hume he needed to be playing with one of them imo.

He shouldn't have publicly criticised the players we had at the club when he arrived saying they weren't good enough, i think many of them were good enough. He said there heads were down, so why didn't he stick by them and raise there heads and get the best out of them. He said judge him when he has brought his own players in, he has brought his own players in and look where it got us!

I don't know whether it is best for Holloway to go or not, he seems like a decent bloke and it would be good to keep stability, but if he stays i will really worry about his team selection and tactics next season.

[Micky Ruddle]

As a knee-jerk reaction, i have asked for Walshie. I take it back, and think..keep Ollie. He will take us up next season

[lildave3]

Yeah thats my view also , anyways are we gonna see you at the foxestalk match next week ?

Yeah we need him, well I need him.

Half time inspirational pep talk!

[csadfox67]

Whether Holloway has put his 'heart and soul into this club' is a matter of opinion, I personally don't agree but whatever. Ultimately, results are the manager's responsibility. If certain players let him down, then he should not have included them in the team sheet. To say every single player over 22 should be sacked is completely riduclous: McAuley, Kisonorbo, Henderson for example have on the whole played well this season.

Statistically, only Frank McLintock (ask someone that was around in the late 70s if you want to hear how bad he was) is the only person to manage the club with a worse record. Football is like any other job is some respects: if you're in a managerial position in charge of a team of people, then you take collective responsiblity for their failure. In any case, Holloway has made many mistakes at this football club in terms of tactics, team selection and signings. You should listen to his latest interview: it's the rambling of a broken man. He needs to go.

frank mclintock was shite considering he had the likes of george armstrong n worthy to name but 2................but he was followed by a certain JOCK WALLACE and a new much improved era began (nobody mention harlow pls) if we could get someone with the work ethic of the late great man then we would have the building blocks for a good solid team. REMEMBER THE SAND HILL ?

[Thracian]

Thracian, it's a forum where you'll encounter different opinions. Football is never as black and white as there being definite rights or wrongs.

Personally I don't think IH has what it takes. That's my own opinion. That said, MM has made a bit of a rod for his own back now as his reputation goes well before him. Would you work for him?

The important thing to remember though is that while we care so much- we're not the decision makers. And that's right in a way. Although MM has a poor record of getting managers in - every LCFC fan has their own idea who they want. Its really not worth fighting over! See what happens.

I'm personally just trying to enjoy my summer and will take each bit of LCFC news etc as it comes.

A measured argument that seeing as I seem to remember you being so frustrated with Leicester City you barely had any interest in them at all at one stage during the season.

[Thracian]

Yeah thats my view also , anyways are we gonna see you at the foxestalk match next week ?

When is it? I can't be bothered to wade through the thread. If I can be there I will.

[Sparky]

Saturday 12 pm , St Maggies pastures

[Chairman of the Bored]

I think Holloway has to go. He is tactically inept rarely having more than a Plan A (refer to Sheff Wed game when Plan A seemed to consist of Hendo lumping it down field for Hume to chase); fails to exploit opportunities that present themselves at key times in matches (WBA excepted) and his media antics have now become rather tiresome.

I'm sure he's an OK guy and a laff to be with but I would like a little more than that. I really think it is make or break next season. Mandy won't stick around for 2 seasons in Division 3, so after 2008-09 he's gone if we don't get up. After that? Le deluge.

So, we need to get the right manager in now. And who might that be, you ask? Sean O'Driscoll.

[Thracian]

Saturday 12 pm , St Maggies pastures

Too early for me I'm afraid. I'd have little chance of getting back from Stratford in time.