Master Fox Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 I'm findng it hard to see a reason for sacking Holloway. He's put his heart and soul into this club, and things didn't quite work out on the pitch to not much fault of his own. Every single player over the age of 22 should be sacked (Including Hume) This squad of players have failed everyone. I don't care whether you have a pet favourite cretin, but every single one of those players should go. That's what's needed. Holloway couldn't have come in at a worse time. The players here have let everyone down, including Holloway. I'd be quite sad if Milan got rid of him now. I don't think sacking Holloway is the answer at all. You can't blame Holloway for what happened, if you do, you're an idiot.
Corky Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 I'm findng it hard to see a reason for sacking Holloway. He's put his heart and soul into this club, and things didn't quite work out on the pitch to not much fault of his own. Every single player over the age of 22 should be sacked (Including Hume)This squad of players have failed everyone. I don't care whether you have a pet favourite cretin, but every single one of those players should go. That's what's needed. Holloway couldn't have come in at a worse time. The players here have let everyone down, including Holloway. I'd be quite sad if Milan got rid of him now. I don't think sacking Holloway is the answer at all. You can't blame Holloway for what happened, if you do, you're an idiot. I do blame Holloway, but not completely. The players have to take a long look at themselves and ask if they did enough, Mandaric has to take some of the blame as well, as do Allen and Megson. Football is a team game and not one person is completely to blame, everyone is.
Daggers Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 I'm findng it hard to see a reason for sacking Holloway. He's put his heart and soul into this club, and things didn't quite work out on the pitch to not much fault of his own. Every single player over the age of 22 should be sacked (Including Hume)This squad of players have failed everyone. I don't care whether you have a pet favourite cretin, but every single one of those players should go. That's what's needed. Holloway couldn't have come in at a worse time. The players here have let everyone down, including Holloway. I'd be quite sad if Milan got rid of him now. I don't think sacking Holloway is the answer at all. You can't blame Holloway for what happened, if you do, you're an idiot.
oldbluefox Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 I'm findng it hard to see a reason for sacking Holloway. He's put his heart and soul into this club, and things didn't quite work out on the pitch to not much fault of his own. Every single player over the age of 22 should be sacked (Including Hume)This squad of players have failed everyone. I don't care whether you have a pet favourite cretin, but every single one of those players should go. That's what's needed. Holloway couldn't have come in at a worse time. The players here have let everyone down, including Holloway. I'd be quite sad if Milan got rid of him now. I don't think sacking Holloway is the answer at all. You can't blame Holloway for what happened, if you do, you're an idiot. Sorry that you infer that anybody having a different point of view to yours is an idiot. I agree that a good many players have to shoulder some of the blame for the plight we are in and showed little by way of commitment or determination during the season. I would also agree that youth is the way forward, either using some of the talented youngsters we already have on our books, with new young talent being bought in. We also need some of the more experienced heads who do demonstrate some sort of commitment to the cause and are not just here for a fat pay check at the end of the month. However Holloway has been with us for some time and even with money to spend in the January sales failed to find anybody who could inspire the attack an invigorate a flagging team. His failure to motivate the players, strange tactics and team selection, and lack-lustre use of substitutes leave me with little confidence that next season will be much better than this if he stays. I try hard to find anything positive about his tenure and it may just be that Leicester has not worked out for him as he would have wished. If we are to have a change now is the right time. Hopefully during the summer we will prune out the dead wood. I feel sure that some of our more talented players will understandably go but we should be able to harvest some good young talent from the lower divisions who are eager to play, will give 100%, freshen up our squad and relish the thought of playing at the Walkers. But then again, thinking like that maybe I am an idiot!!!
Master Fox Posted 11 May 2008 Author Posted 11 May 2008 I do blame Holloway, but not completely. The players have to take a long look at themselves and ask if they did enough, Mandaric has to take some of the blame as well, as do Allen and Megson. Football is a team game and not one person is completely to blame, everyone is. So you agree then. Good. I just wish our fans would stop being such a bunch turd brains for once. You can't blame Holloway can you, think about? Any anti-Holloway posts will be responded to in a aggressive manner.
Daggers Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 So you agree then. Good.I just wish our fans would stop being such a bunch turd brains for once. You can't blame Holloway can you, think about? Any anti-Holloway posts will be responded to in a aggressive manner. lol
FoxesRoyal Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 I should keep holliway because if you look who we going to get would be someone like paul ince and he is crap so keep holliway. Mandric if you want to bring paul ince in then do it but you will see leicester in league two after one season in league one!!!!!!!!
filbertway Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 I should keep holliway because if you look who we going to get would be someone like paul ince and he is crap so keep holliway.Mandric if you want to bring paul ince in then do it but you will see leicester in league two after one season in league one!!!!!!!! And then back into league 1 when he gets another team promoted from League 2?
sdb Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 Holloway's not done a good job here, but he took over a sinking ship and i've supported us long enough to know that stability pays off. He's got a decent track record so i say give him a go. see if he's learnt from his mistakes and if, 10 games into next season we're heading in the same direction then it's p45 time. until then, lets have a good, stable pre season with a lot of young players who need exactly that. That said, it's MM's decision and i think we'll be manager-less in 24 hours time
Jimmy Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 Holloway's not done a good job here, but he took over a sinking ship and i've supported us long enough to know that stability pays off. He's got a decent track record so i say give him a go. see if he's learnt from his mistakes and if, 10 games into next season we're heading in the same direction then it's p45 time. until then, lets have a good, stable pre season with a lot of young players who need exactly that.That said, it's MM's decision and i think we'll be manager-less in 24 hours time he doesn't learn from his mistakes, not once did he make a change early enough for it to have an impact, not once did he realise Howard's presence (apart from his 1st game and WBA away) was a hindrance, not once did he realise if playing Barry Hayles on the left wing you NEED to play Mattock at left back who is better going forward then Clapham and not once has he admitted he made a mistake in not buying Fulop (relegation has cost us more then £3M)
hazytex Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 I'm findng it hard to see a reason for sacking Holloway. He's put his heart and soul into this club, and things didn't quite work out on the pitch to not much fault of his own. Every single player over the age of 22 should be sacked (Including Hume) This squad of players have failed everyone. I don't care whether you have a pet favourite cretin, but every single one of those players should go. That's what's needed. Holloway couldn't have come in at a worse time. The players here have let everyone down, including Holloway. I'd be quite sad if Milan got rid of him now. I don't think sacking Holloway is the answer at all. You can't blame Holloway for what happened, if you do, you're an idiot. What creditable Chairman would keep the inept Holloway, a man who has brought shame on the club with his manner, tactics, purchases and RELEGATION to the third tier.
TrickyTrev Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 Well he signed two immobile centre forwards and moved our only decent striker out on to the wing or left him on the bench. He consistently told the players they were shit in public which evidently demoralised the squad. He changed formation every 5 minutes through matches leaving us with absaloutely no shape whatsoever. These are the reasoned he dragged us into a relegation position, its not like he cam elate in the season and couldn't get us out of it. He came in November, when we were mid table, spent a lot of money in january, and dragged us down. If that is a manager that couldn't have done much else then you are pretty much saying the manager has no effect whatsoever and it is all down to players. Bonkers.
Benji Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 the tactics argument makes me laugh "but but but if i was on football manage I would have brought on Fryatt and DJ after 60 minutes and gone for the win" oh yes, of course, i forgot that they are both prolific strikers who would have saved our seasons [irony] end of [/irony]
davieG Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 Cant we just ban this person? Just ignore his/her posts - how difficult can that be. Everyone that moans about him/her gives them credibility and the oxygen of publicity. If you can't manage that go to your controls and put them on ignore FFS.
Jonbluefox9 Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 I'm findng it hard to see a reason for sacking Holloway. He's put his heart and soul into this club, and things didn't quite work out on the pitch to not much fault of his own. Every single player over the age of 22 should be sacked (Including Hume)This squad of players have failed everyone. I don't care whether you have a pet favourite cretin, but every single one of those players should go. That's what's needed. Holloway couldn't have come in at a worse time. The players here have let everyone down, including Holloway. I'd be quite sad if Milan got rid of him now. I don't think sacking Holloway is the answer at all. You can't blame Holloway for what happened, if you do, you're an idiot. I wasn't sure whether we should stick with Holloway or not but I'm starting to think like you. Yes, he made some errors, every manager does, but I think more of the blame should lie at the feet of the players. From what I've been told and what I've seen myself, far too many of our players couldn't care less about our football club. A few of them have said as much to City supporters away from the pitch! I believe that Holloway cares about the club. Even if he doesn't care about it directly, he won't want to lose his job so soon after uprooting his family and moving to the area. Give him a second chance, a pre-season to do things his way and then judge him on the results we produce from then onwards. Stability is needed now more than ever imo.
Filberts lovechild Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 So you agree then. Good.I just wish our fans would stop being such a bunch turd brains for once. You can't blame Holloway can you, think about? Any anti-Holloway posts will be responded to in a aggressive manner. Is this a joke?? I have supported Holloway til the end this season, but as soon as he took us down he has to go! I'm sorry but he's got the tactical awareness of a goat! Whilst you see other managers who are technical who analyse games properly, I have saw none of that from Holloway, the bloke simply isn't good enough! I would keep him on as coach though as he is obviously very motivational, but quite simply he is not good enough to be at Leicester City football club, and quite frankley neither are lots of the players!
Eastern Fox Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 I'm findng it hard to see a reason for sacking Holloway. He's put his heart and soul into this club, and things didn't quite work out on the pitch to not much fault of his own. Every single player over the age of 22 should be sacked (Including Hume)This squad of players have failed everyone. I don't care whether you have a pet favourite cretin, but every single one of those players should go. That's what's needed. Holloway couldn't have come in at a worse time. The players here have let everyone down, including Holloway. I'd be quite sad if Milan got rid of him now. I don't think sacking Holloway is the answer at all. You can't blame Holloway for what happened, if you do, you're an idiot. Whether Holloway has put his 'heart and soul into this club' is a matter of opinion, I personally don't agree but whatever. Ultimately, results are the manager's responsibility. If certain players let him down, then he should not have included them in the team sheet. To say every single player over 22 should be sacked is completely riduclous: McAuley, Kisonorbo, Henderson for example have on the whole played well this season. Statistically, only Frank McLintock (ask someone that was around in the late 70s if you want to hear how bad he was) is the only person to manage the club with a worse record. Football is like any other job is some respects: if you're in a managerial position in charge of a team of people, then you take collective responsiblity for their failure. In any case, Holloway has made many mistakes at this football club in terms of tactics, team selection and signings. You should listen to his latest interview: it's the rambling of a broken man. He needs to go.
Master Fox Posted 11 May 2008 Author Posted 11 May 2008 You have to remember the utter shite of a team he had to take over with. The players he bought we're good on paper but flopped the moment they arrived. I just don't think the manager can be held responsible for the way the players conducted themselves in the games in which he was in charge. They were so awful, terrible infact. There was only so much he could do. The players in my eyes let this club down. Sheffield Wednesday a perfect example.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 You have to remember the utter shite of a team he had to take over with. The players he bought we're good on paper but flopped the moment they arrived. I just don't think the manager can be held responsible for the way the players conducted themselves in the games in which he was in charge. They were so awful, terrible infact. There was only so much he could do. The players in my eyes let this club down. Sheffield Wednesday a perfect example. I agree, some of the players he signed should've formed a decent team. You can't blame Holloway for their lack of passion. But it was his continued blind faith in these players that was our downfall. People call for stability at the club but a key part of that is playing in form players in the right positions, and keeping them there. Why Hume, who had scored 3 in 3, was moved to the wing against Stoke is beyond me. A typical element of instability under Holloway has been disregarding players in favour of the likes of Hayles and Howard, whether they were played in their rightful positions or not. I suppose he was consistent in team selection in some manner (playing his "favourites"), but it will have a negative effect on the club to know that out of form players will get playing time regardless of performance.
maddog Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 Just ignore his/her posts - how difficult can that be. Everyone that moans about him/her gives them credibility and the oxygen of publicity.If you can't manage that go to your controls and put them on ignore FFS. Go Davie, Go Davie Don't put me on ignore
sdb Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 he doesn't learn from his mistakes, not once did he make a change early enough for it to have an impact, not once did he realise Howard's presence (apart from his 1st game and WBA away) was a hindrance, not once did he realise if playing Barry Hayles on the left wing you NEED to play Mattock at left back who is better going forward then Clapham and not once has he admitted he made a mistake in not buying Fulop (relegation has cost us more then £3M) but sometimes you have to step away from a situation, take a good long look and then make desicions. summer allows that but it can't always be done when you're in a massive relegation dog fight at a relatively new club
Paddy Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 In no way what so ever did not buying fulop send us down! Anwick and Henderson both had good strong performances while between the sticks. Yes fulop was a good keeper, but holloway is not to blame for not signing him. Milan would have made that decision. Our problem has been strikers and the lack of motivation and target practice! Holloway is to blame for very poor choices of formation and subs. the manager is responsible for motivating and getting the best out of each and every one of the players. He has not done that. However I think sacking him is still a difficult decision, as it means paying off 2 years of wages, and starting all over again. I don't care who the manager is next season, as long as he has a brain for tactics!
davieG Posted 11 May 2008 Posted 11 May 2008 Although I prefer Holloway to go I accept there are others who want him to stay. What I can't understand and wont accept are the views of people that say give him a pre-season and X number of games to me this is the worst approach of all and shows you have little confidence in Holloway. You should either have total faith in the guy and want him to stay or you want him to go none of this in between give him a go crap.
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