The problem with our football club is... Milan Mandaric!

[Legend_in_blue]

Today takes the monkeys tbh.

If all that has gone on over the past few weeks, months, 4 seasons or whatever was not bad enough, we still get the 10% price hike on ticket prices!

And the reasons for doing so are given to us amongst a mass of conflicting arguments and mixed messages, which serve little to ease the pain and frustration over the shortcomings of last season.

And the problem? I'll take a wager on Milan Mandaric. Yes, him.

Of course, the bees-knees when he came in, he's done it all before, he's loaded, he'll buy us out of trouble - he is "The One".

Hirings and firings, confidentiality clauses and business as usuals, ins and outs, temporary loan signings and emergency loan signings, knee-gerk reactions and weeks of mulling it over when the obvious hits you right in the face, you name it we've had it all here, and "The One" has monumentally failed to deliver.

And now this. And you can't even offer STs renewals the opportunity of spreading the cost of their ticket over a few months minus the "small charge" of £4 or whatever it is each month.

Yeah, cheers. Ta.

I'm wound up. Can't you tell?

[Samilktray]

Shock thread.

[Fez of Mahrez]

I'd be interested to see how much season ticket prices have increased in the past ten years or so. I've only had one for three of those years and I had a young adult one for two of those so I have no real reference point.

They don't seem to have increased much in the recent past though.

[Jay]

I'd be interested to see how much season ticket prices have increased in the past ten years or so. I've only had one for three of those years and I had a young adult one for two of those so I have no real reference point.

They don't seem to have increased much in the recent past though.

I am pretty sure first season at The Walkers my ST in F1 was £250.00 as they knocked loads off after relegation in F1 it's now £322.00 so what's that about 30%ish since the move

[fox123]

I'd be interested to see how much season ticket prices have increased in the past ten years or so. I've only had one for three of those years and I had a young adult one for two of those so I have no real reference point.

They don't seem to have increased much in the recent past though.

I remember buying a season ticket in the Filbert Street kop the season MON took us up via play-offs, think it was £250

[allard7]

tbh i think it is aswel...

i have herd that the only two player that olly signed were bell and hayles, all the rest were mandys doing .... with the oakly and howard deal the coaching staff didnt know they were coming untill the day before. mandy bought them by his own doing.

[Stuliasz]

There is NO way that season ticket prices should go up to watch a worse standard of football. It just defies common logic.

[ronnup]

There is NO way that season ticket prices should go up to watch a worse standard of football. It just defies common logic.

he's generating funds before he does a cut and run.

[iancognito]

The problem isn't Mandaric, it's Aldridge with the tickets. The guy had a reputation at West Ham for making money from the one guaranteed revenue source - the fans, and two or three Hammers fans I know were pretty glad to see the back of him overall.

The only thing Mandaric has done wrong is constantly appointing the wrong man for the job no matter how many weeks he's taken pondering over it. In all his time with City & Pompey, he managed one good appointment and that was Redknapp, even getting him back in again when he fu<ked it up by appointing his replacement.

[Super Arj]

dont say this when he bought us, got rid of most of our debts and financed the WRONG manager at the start

i think if someone pays £25 million for something, and there is someone inside giving you a hard time, you sack the bastard

and look at the managers he has had under his reign and what he has done with them

Rob Kelly - would have sent us to league 1 if not sacked

Nigel Worthington - saved us but not the right man in MM's eyes

Martin Allen - disagreements caused his job

Gary Megson - the dickhead left by himself

Ian Holloway - got us relegated and yet MM looks to be sticking with him

its not his fault mate, where do you think we would be if we didnt have his money and ambition to go somewhere!!

[Thracian]

tbh i think it is aswel...

i have herd that the only two player that olly signed were bell and hayles, all the rest were mandys doing .... with the oakly and howard deal the coaching staff didnt know they were coming untill the day before. mandy bought them by his own doing.

That doesn't surprise me. Would anything surprise me about our leadership?

Mandaric talks about examining himself as chairman but just like his metaphorically fanfared arrival, he's all for effect.

Not that I thought Oakley and Howard were bad signings. Why they've been so disappointing is something I'd like to know.

But if they weren't of the manager's choosing that would hardly help.

I've mentioned before that Mandaric seems more obsessed with experience than any of our managers and that's saying something.

Has the penny not dropped for him yet?

He's no Harry Redknapp and never will be.

Someone has to get the best out of tiring old timers. It's a special skill. And we don't have anyone who fits the bill.

We need to play to our strengths and stop trying to simply buy a team.

[davieG]

dont say this when he bought us, got rid of most of our debts and financed the WRONG manager at the start

i think if someone pays £25 million for something, and there is someone inside giving you a hard time, you sack the bastard

and look at the managers he has had under his reign and what he has done with them

Rob Kelly - would have sent us to league 1 if not sacked

Nigel Worthington - saved us but not the right man in MM's eyes

Martin Allen - disagreements caused his job

Gary Megson - the dickhead left by himself

Ian Holloway - got us relegated and yet MM looks to be sticking with him

its not his fault mate, where do you think we would be if we didnt have his money and ambition to go somewhere!!

FFS how many times he didn't pay £25 mill, absolutely nothing like, think £1mill and you'd be much nearer. And he hasn't got rid of our debts either, it's much more likely that our debts have increased significantly except now we probably owe not only the stadium money but Mandaric as well.

[Super Arj]

FFS how many times he didn't pay £25 mill, absolutely nothing like, think £1mill and you'd be much nearer. And he hasn't got rid of our debts either, it's much more likely that our debts have increased significantly except now we probably owe not only the stadium money but Mandaric as well.

besides that im right

[Benjani]

He keeps saying he wants the Football Club back where it belongs. Yes he does - but for only one reason so he can sell it to a richer businessman like at Portsmouth.

I don't think he's done anything while here, we've got worse spending all the money. I sound ungrateful, but maybe he should let the manager do the talking next season. Provide the funds but not too much and do not get involved.

[Super Arj]

He keeps saying he wants the Football Club back where it belongs. Yes he does - but for only one reason so he can sell it to a richer businessman like at Portsmouth.

I don't think he's done anything while here, we've got worse spending all the money. I sound ungrateful, but maybe he should let the manager do the talking next season. Provide the funds but not too much and do not get involved.

cant agree more

but that whole rich businessman thing is good for both clubs

because we all know MM isnt the richest ( he is in league 1 but foreign buyer are nnow looking to the championship too )

so i can only hope we get promoted then Bill Gates buys us out, we get decent sponsers on our shirts

- happy days

[Guest ttfn]

Everything comes back to Milan Mandaric.

People are complaining about the CEO - who appointed him? Mandaric. Because he 'wanted a friend'. Not because he wanted best for club or fans.

People are complaining about managers - oh yes MM was the one who didn't tie Megson down to a contract (how fooking amateur was that by the way?!) and brought in MA, knowing his reputation, and IH who was plainly out of his depth from the moment he arrived (talking about big fish or something).

People are complaining about all the players we have brought in who aren't good enough. I think we can safely assume that MM was responsible for at least half of them.

Someone earlier in the thread asked where we would be without him. Well, we'd probably have Rob Kelly still as manager (who, by the way, accumulated more points per game than Holloway even in the season he was sacked), we'd have a poor but trustworthy and stable board with the club's best interests at heart and we'd probably have finished about 19th in the championship because that's where we had been consistently finishing. When RK was sacked, we had enough points to stay up, given Leeds' ultimate ten point deduction.

Milan Mandaric is everything that is wrong with this club and it is people's pride which gets in the way of that. MM has kept us as a kind of 'buying club' of the Championship (now, of course League One) whereas the old board would have had to have sold players to keep us going. However what we obviously had before MM arrived was a real team spirit. I'd give anything to go back to the days of Rob Kelly. At least his players 'redoubled their efforts'. The pile of shit that MM is responsible for, including himself, are only interested in redoubling their bank balance.

[Barry Trotter]

Nigel Worthington - saved us but not the right man in MM's eyes

No he didn't, we would have stayed up with the amount of points Rob got us.

[Dom_Harborough Fox]

I'm sure that I read an interview with Aldridge where he said that he was in favour of raising the season ticket prices but Mandaric wanted to freeze them after witnessing the fans' performance at the Barnsley match.

Either way, it was Mandaric who appointed Aldridge so he is not exempt from all blame. Also, I could just about live with a rise in prices if we would have stayed up but to get releagted to our lowest ever position in the football league & have to pay more is ridiculous. It just shows that those at the head of the club would rather see a big bank balance than a full stadium & that is just wrong all round.

I am glad Mandaric bought the club from a financial point of view but in terms of his decision-making since his arrival I am very disappointed.

[fox123]

He keeps saying he wants the Football Club back where it belongs. Yes he does - but for only one reason so he can sell it to a richer businessman like at Portsmouth.

I don't think he's done anything while here, we've got worse spending all the money. I sound ungrateful, but maybe he should let the manager do the talking next season. Provide the funds but not too much and do not get involved.

And lets be honest....they haven't done bad out of it!

[Ultra]

Everything comes back to Milan Mandaric.

People are complaining about the CEO - who appointed him? Mandaric. Because he 'wanted a friend'. Not because he wanted best for club or fans.

People are complaining about managers - oh yes MM was the one who didn't tie Megson down to a contract (how fooking amateur was that by the way?!) and brought in MA, knowing his reputation, and IH who was plainly out of his depth from the moment he arrived (talking about big fish or something).

People are complaining about all the players we have brought in who aren't good enough. I think we can safely assume that MM was responsible for at least half of them.

Someone earlier in the thread asked where we would be without him. Well, we'd probably have Rob Kelly still as manager (who, by the way, accumulated more points per game than Holloway even in the season he was sacked), we'd have a poor but trustworthy and stable board with the club's best interests at heart and we'd probably have finished about 19th in the championship because that's where we had been consistently finishing. When RK was sacked, we had enough points to stay up, given Leeds' ultimate ten point deduction.

Milan Mandaric is everything that is wrong with this club and it is people's pride which gets in the way of that. MM has kept us as a kind of 'buying club' of the Championship (now, of course League One) whereas the old board would have had to have sold players to keep us going. However what we obviously had before MM arrived was a real team spirit. I'd give anything to go back to the days of Rob Kelly. At least his players 'redoubled their efforts'. The pile of shit that MM is responsible for, including himself, are only interested in redoubling their bank balance.

It's hard to say where we'd be if Kelly and the previous regime were still in charge. We'd have had to sell Stearman and Mattock last summer, though, and probably others.

We'd have had to get by on youngsters and loan signings. Still, they couldn't have done any worse than the big-money buys Campbell, Clemence, Howard and Oakley did.

[Thracian]

It's hard to say where we'd be if Kelly and the previous regime were still in charge. We'd have had to sell Stearman and Mattock last summer, though, and probably others.

We'd have had to get by on youngsters and loan signings. Still, they couldn't have done any worse than the big-money buys Campbell, Clemence, Howard and Oakley did.

We'd probably own all the non-Premiership standard defenders by now!