Random Burglar Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 Premiership 1 Chelsea - Lucky, maybe money can buy you success. But not the whole reason they have done well. 2 Arsenal - The almosts 3 Man Utd -Living off 1999 4 Everton - Total respect and they deserve success 5 Liverpool - 70's never again 6 Bolton - Tail off at end of the season 7 Middlesbrough - Well done Steve Mclaren 8 Charlton - Poor 9 Tottenham - Should do better with the players 10 Aston Villa - Plenty of money just tight with it 11 Newcastle - Bowyer and Dyer say it all 12 Man City - SWP-LEGEND but should move to a bigger club 13 Birmingham - Midlanders- Heskey 14 Fulham - Unlucky 15 Blackburn - Savage and Dickov 16 Portsmouth - Going down 17 Southampton - In the mixer for relegation 18 West Brom - Going down 19 Crystal Palace - Deserve to stay up 20 Norwich - Deserve to go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 what i said was along the lines of your situation, so why, scowy or katy, couldnt you give me a mature reply like newcastle fox?seems i touched a nerve sorry 89563[/snapback] Not a nerve, we're just bored with having to justify ourselves but if it makes you happy here we go yet again. Please note this information is from an independant source and one of the very few publishers who had the integrity to find out the facts before shouting their mouths off. Let’s look at the events of Leicester Leicester City had already gone down when their money troubles came to light. The recently completed Walkers Stadium (worth around £32m of the £50m debt the club had at the time of administration) the collapse of the ITV Digital deal and the cost of premiership wages in a division that could not support them cost Leicester dear. But all hope was not lost. The Board of Directors at that time had agreed with the players and backroom staff that there would be a wage deferral of 25% and a complete bonus deferral until the end of that season. They also agreed with all but one of their creditors a repayment scheme that would mean Leicester would avoid going into administration, whilst ensuring that the creditors would be repaid in full in the fullness of time. There was only one creditor who refused the repayment. Eric Hall, agent of the recently sacked Dennis Wise, was furious that his client had been wrongly dismissed for breaking team-mate Callum Davidson’s cheek-bone. He was still owed money from the sale of Wise to Leicester and refused the creditor agreement. He decided to serve a winding up petition that would have led the club into bankruptcy and extinction. His reasoning for this I cannot comment on and my only hope is that it was not malicious. This caused the directors to have to apply for creditor protection. Once this was done, administrators were appointed. The majority of the playing squad were made available on free transfers and even Muzzy Izzet was made available for transfer if the right offer came in. A large portion of the Non Playing staff were asked to leave immediately and the players even subsidised the wages of the kit cleaning staff to ensure they turned out in fresh shirts. Over the next four months, Leicester lived day to day. There were times when the club came close to going out of business in this time. Fortunately, the Lineker Consortium managed to raise enough funding from local businessmen, former players like Emile Heskey and even the fans who weighed in with more than £100k in support of the club. The administrators then got agreement from the creditors for debt repayment and the new company was given the go ahead to come out of administration and it should have been plain sailing for Leicester City from then on. It wasn’t. Leicester were accused of cheating their way out of debt by every other club in the first division. There was talk of points docking and even relegation! As there was no law regarding football clubs in administration, nothing could be done, except the Football League took an unprecedented step of banning Leicester from signing any players on any terms before the end of the season. This was perceived to be punishment for any wrong-doing by the club. Red Kitching - 26/01/2004 -© Squarefootball Ltd 2001-2005 Please also note all the other clubs that have recently gone into administration, are they all cheats? CLUB ADMINISTRATIONS SINCE FEB 2001 Date in Date out Hull City 7 Feb 2001 8 March 2001 Chesterfield 16 May 2001 8 March 2002 QPR 2 April 2001 27 May 2002 Swansea City 5 November 2001 25 March 2002 Bury 1 March 2002 7 June 2002 Swindon Town 27 March 2002 19 August 2002 Halifax 12 April 2002 Now in Nationwide Conference Lincoln City 2 May 2002 21 June 2002 Bradford City 16 May 2002 31 January 2003 & 27 February 2004 10 December 2004 Carlisle United 6 June 2002 7 October 2002 Notts County 17 June 2002 3 December 2003 Barnsley 3 October 2002 12 December 2003 Leicester City 22 October 2002 12 February 2003 Port Vale 16 December 2002 14 March 2003 York City 18 December 2002 26 March 2003 Ipswich Town 10 February 2003 30 May 2003 Huddersfield Town 31 March 2003 4 August 2003 Wimbledon 5 June 2003 1 July 2004 Luton Town 14 July 2003 9 June 2004 Oldham Athletic 19 August 2003 3 February 2004 Darlington 23 December 2003 7 September 2004 Wrexham 3 December 2004 (first club to be deducted 10 points under new League Regulations) Patricia Brown Customer Services The Football League Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 Good post Davie, I hope some people will read and digest this information before casting aspertions in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan_Ellington_WAFC Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 Leicester were accused of cheating their way out of debt by every other club in the first division. There was talk of points docking and even relegation! As there was no law regarding football clubs in administration, nothing could be done, except the Football League took an unprecedented step of banning Leicester from signing any players on any terms before the end of the season. This was perceived to be punishment for any wrong-doing by the club. 89569[/snapback] and this is why warnock, as pointed out, doesnt like your club like many people/clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 Leicester were accused of cheating their way out of debt by every other club in the first division. There was talk of points docking and even relegation! As there was no law regarding football clubs in administration, nothing could be done, except the Football League took an unprecedented step of banning Leicester from signing any players on any terms before the end of the season. This was perceived to be punishment for any wrong-doing by the club. 89569[/snapback] and this is why warnock, as pointed out, doesnt like your club like many people/clubs 89572[/snapback] Doesnt matter how many ways you put the facts, if people dont want to understand.........or cant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 Leicester were accused of cheating their way out of debt by every other club in the first division. There was talk of points docking and even relegation! As there was no law regarding football clubs in administration, nothing could be done, except the Football League took an unprecedented step of banning Leicester from signing any players on any terms before the end of the season. This was perceived to be punishment for any wrong-doing by the club. 89569[/snapback] and this is why warnock, as pointed out, doesnt like your club like many people/clubs 89572[/snapback] Doesnt matter how many ways you put the facts, if people dont want to understand.........or cant! 89575[/snapback] It's very simple to understand as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 Leicester were accused of cheating their way out of debt by every other club in the first division. There was talk of points docking and even relegation! As there was no law regarding football clubs in administration, nothing could be done, except the Football League took an unprecedented step of banning Leicester from signing any players on any terms before the end of the season. This was perceived to be punishment for any wrong-doing by the club. 89569[/snapback] and this is why warnock, as pointed out, doesnt like your club like many people/clubs 89572[/snapback] Doesnt matter how many ways you put the facts, if people dont want to understand.........or cant! 89575[/snapback] It's very simple to understand as well! 89576[/snapback] Who gives a flying fock what Warnock says anyway the miserable moaning cockarse, who died and made him boss of everything.If he makes another smartarse comment about Leicester (or anything else he knows nothing about) so help me....................! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighton Matt Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 Leicester were accused of cheating their way out of debt by every other club in the first division. There was talk of points docking and even relegation! As there was no law regarding football clubs in administration, nothing could be done, except the Football League took an unprecedented step of banning Leicester from signing any players on any terms before the end of the season. This was perceived to be punishment for any wrong-doing by the club. 89569[/snapback] and this is why warnock, as pointed out, doesnt like your club like many people/clubs 89572[/snapback] on a serious note i can see why people don't like us because of the administration episode. what i can't understand is that we're accused of cheating whilst ipswich VOLUNTARILY went into administration (we were forced into it as shown above). what makes it worse is that their chairman was on the board of the football league which prevented us buying players for our supposed wrongdoing! and who's in line for promotion this year...thats right IPSWICH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexikokopops Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 Excellent post Davie, now if anyone even mentions it I'm just going to copy all of that Anyway Premiership 1 Chelsea Entertaining to watch, and Frank Lampard is the best player EVER 2 Arsenal Also entertaining to watch 3 Man Utd Not really a big fan, although the 4-1-1-4 formation works well with them on Pro Evo 4 Everton Like the fact they're doing well 5 Liverpool Would like them to do better, just because they weren't too shabby once upon a time 6 Bolton HOOF, but still like 'em 7 Middlesbrough indifferent really 8 Charlton see above 9 Tottenham I quite like Spurs. Whether that's because my mate of 14 years supports them, or because I like Defoe and King, I dunno 10 Aston Villa Boo 11 Newcastle Inconsistent 12 Man City Need a decent striker 13 Birmingham Indifferent 14 Fulham Boring 15 Blackburn Pederson good, pretty boring otherwise 16 Portsmouth Boo 17 Southampton Glad Harry's doing the job 18 West Brom Want them to stay up just because they've done so well recently 19 Crystal Palace Indifferent 20 Norwich Indifferent Championship 21 Sunderland Can't help but think of Stan the Man Collymore 22 Ipswich Out of everyone in the Championship (apart from us obviously), probably the ones I would have prefered to go up 23 Wigan Wellington does make me giggle, even though the arguments about attendance and sugar daddies get boring after a while, plus my mate supports them, but I they're play-off destined I think 24 Preston indifferent 25 Reading indifferent 26 Derby Boo, sheep shaggers 27 West Ham had some good youth over the years 28 Sheff Utd Warnock=twat 29 QPR indifferent 30 Millwall Dennis Wise=twat 31 Stoke indifferent 32 Leeds How can they buy so many players? 33 Wolverhampton Boo 34 Burnley indifferent 35 Leicester FUPPIN' MARVELLOUS 36 Plymouth Need new ground 37 Coventry BIG FAT BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! 38 Cardiff Crazy Sam Hamann 39 Crewe indifferent 40 Watford Remeber them in the Prem? 41 Gillingham Shouldn't be in this league 42 Brighton Remember watching them lose to Lincoln in Division 3 when I was younger (I think the same season we beat Tranmere in the Worthington Cup final, 99/00) 43 Nottm Forest BIG FAT BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! 44 Rotherham Same as Gillingham League 1 45 Luton 46 Hull Bastards, with bastard fans and bastardness 47 Tranmere Dave Challinor and the cup final ) 48 Sheff Wed Disastor!! 49 Bournemouth Bournemouth 5 Lincoln 2 Division 3 Play-off final 2003 50 Hartlepool 51 Brentford 52 Bristol City 53 Doncaster Boo 54 Bradford 55 Swindon 56 Huddersfield 57 Barnsley 58 Chesterfield 59 Colchester 60 Blackpool 61 Oldham 62 Port Vale 63 Walsall 64 Milton Keynes Dons Fecking joke 65 Torquay 66 Wrexham 67 Peterborough Lee Thorpe, 90th minute, 2-2 and wooden chairs 68 Stockport League 2 69 Southend Why are they doing well this season? They were crap before!! 70 Yeovil Boo 71 Swansea See Hull 72 S####horpe Detest the ####s, and Brian Laws is the one of the biggest twats ever to manage a football team 73 Macclesfield See Southend 74 Lincoln City My second team, so yay 75 Darlington See Southend/Macclesfield 76 Northampton Indifferent 77 Wycombe Boo, that bloomin' quarter final 78 Rochdale Used to get them mixed up with Rotherham when I was a kid 79 Mansfield Boo 80 Boston Utd BUNCH OF INBRED BASTARDS.I'll let you off if they're your second team though ) 81 Leyton Orient Idiots for letting Gary Taylor-Fletcher go on a free and never playing him 82 Cheltenham indifferent 83 Oxford Utd KASSAM, POW!! (Makes me think of magic ) 84 Grimsby Successive relegations, and mocking my old Physics teacher about Muzzy's goal 85 Bristol Rovers Ian Atkins=twat 86 Notts County Gavin Gordon, HA!! But Stef Oakes is good 87 Bury indifferent 88 Shrewsbury GAY MEADOW, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! I'm 12 at heart ) 89 Chester Indifferent 90 Rushden & D'monds Boo 91 Kidderminster indifferent 92 Cambridge Utd indifferent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 Leicester were accused of cheating their way out of debt by every other club in the first division. There was talk of points docking and even relegation! As there was no law regarding football clubs in administration, nothing could be done, except the Football League took an unprecedented step of banning Leicester from signing any players on any terms before the end of the season. This was perceived to be punishment for any wrong-doing by the club. 89569[/snapback] and this is why warnock, as pointed out, doesnt like your club like many people/clubs 89572[/snapback] on a serious note i can see why people don't like us because of the administration episode. what i can't understand is that we're accused of cheating whilst ipswich VOLUNTARILY went into administration (we were forced into it as shown above). what makes it worse is that their chairman was on the board of the football league which prevented us buying players for our supposed wrongdoing! and who's in line for promotion this year...thats right IPSWICH! 89588[/snapback] Ipswich also made one or two signings whilst in Administration. Not that having the chairman of the FL running the clubs helps or anything..... As for Colin willy puller, his comments about us were conveniently published in the Sheff Utd v City programme that season. I had to laugh though, he reckoned we should have had a 12 point deduction, among other things. We still would have been promoted because our GD was far superior!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasinoGee Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 1-10, 1 being hate, 10 being love. Premiership 1 Chelsea - 3 2 Arsenal - 6 3 Man Utd - 1 4 Everton - 6 5 Liverpool - 8 6 Bolton - 5 7 Middlesbrough - 5 8 Charlton - 4 9 Tottenham - 6 10 Aston Villa - 4 11 Newcastle - 7 12 Man City - 7 13 Birmingham - 6 14 Fulham - 4 15 Blackburn - 4 16 Portsmouth - 2 17 Southampton - 6 18 West Brom - 6 19 Crystal Palace - 4 20 Norwich - 6 Championship 21 Sunderland - 6 22 Ipswich - 2 23 Wigan - 4 24 Preston - 7 25 Reading - 3 26 Derby - 5 27 West Ham - 4 28 Sheff Utd - 6 29 QPR - 4 30 Millwall - 5 31 Stoke - 2 32 Leeds - 4 33 Wolverhampton - 5 34 Burnley - 5 35 Leicester - 7 36 Plymouth - 4 37 Coventry - 6 38 Cardiff - 3 39 Crewe - 4 40 Watford - 5 41 Gillingham - 6 42 Brighton - 1 43 Nottm Forest - 6 44 Rotherham - 5 League 1 45 Luton - 4 46 Hull - 5 47 Tranmere - 5 48 Sheff Wed - 4 49 Bournemouth - 3 50 Hartlepool - 4 51 Brentford - 4 52 Bristol City - 4 53 Doncaster - 5 54 Bradford - 4 55 Swindon - 3 56 Huddersfield - 5 57 Barnsley - 5 58 Chesterfield - 4 59 Colchester - 5 60 Blackpool - 5 61 Oldham - 5 62 Port Vale - 10 63 Walsall - 5 64 Milton Keynes Dons - 3 65 Torquay - 5 66 Wrexham - 6 67 Peterborough - 5 68 Stockport - 4 League 2 69 Southend - 7 70 Yeovil - 6 71 Swansea - 5 72 Scun-thorpe - 5 73 Macclesfield - 6 74 Lincoln City - 6 75 Darlington - 5 76 Northampton - 5 77 Wycombe - 3 78 Rochdale - 6 79 Mansfield - 5 80 Boston Utd - 5 81 Leyton Orient - 5 82 Cheltenham - 5 83 Oxford Utd - 4 84 Grimsby - 5 85 Bristol Rovers - 5 86 Notts County - 5 87 Bury - 5 88 Shrewsbury - 6 89 Chester - 5 90 Rushden & D'monds - 4 91 Kidderminster - 5 92 Cambridge Utd - 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighton Matt Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 Leicester were accused of cheating their way out of debt by every other club in the first division. There was talk of points docking and even relegation! As there was no law regarding football clubs in administration, nothing could be done, except the Football League took an unprecedented step of banning Leicester from signing any players on any terms before the end of the season. This was perceived to be punishment for any wrong-doing by the club. 89569[/snapback] and this is why warnock, as pointed out, doesnt like your club like many people/clubs 89572[/snapback] on a serious note i can see why people don't like us because of the administration episode. what i can't understand is that we're accused of cheating whilst ipswich VOLUNTARILY went into administration (we were forced into it as shown above). what makes it worse is that their chairman was on the board of the football league which prevented us buying players for our supposed wrongdoing! and who's in line for promotion this year...thats right IPSWICH! 89588[/snapback] Ipswich also made one or two signings whilst in Administration. Not that having the chairman of the FL running the clubs helps or anything..... As for Colin willy puller, his comments about us were conveniently published in the Sheff Utd v City programme that season. I had to laugh though, he reckoned we should have had a 12 point deduction, among other things. We still would have been promoted because our GD was far superior!!! 89593[/snapback] exactly lisa to me what ipswich did was cheating! as for us of course we must take some criticism but for people to say we cheated our way to promotion to me suggests a lack of intelligence we won games of football on the pitch not off it! and before someone says it all the players were for sale if anyone had come in for them we didn't use administration as a vehicle to keep our players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 Leicester were accused of cheating their way out of debt by every other club in the first division. There was talk of points docking and even relegation! As there was no law regarding football clubs in administration, nothing could be done, except the Football League took an unprecedented step of banning Leicester from signing any players on any terms before the end of the season. This was perceived to be punishment for any wrong-doing by the club. 89569[/snapback] and this is why warnock, as pointed out, doesnt like your club like many people/clubs 89572[/snapback] I'm sorry to have to resort to this but you asked for it. So many people on here thought you were a twat, and you have just confirmed it - well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 I love: 35 Leicester I like: 8 Charlton 20 Norwich 21 Sunderland 24 Preston 40 Watford 39 Crewe 81 Leyton Orient 91 Kidderminster I sympathise with: 17 Southampton 9 Tottenham 13 Birmingham (only because of the ex-Leicester contingent) 27 West Ham 34 Burnley 48 Sheff Wed 78 Rochdale 79 Mansfield I Dislike: 1 Chelsea 2 Arsenal 3 Man Utd 10 Aston Villa 5 Liverpool 6 Bolton 15 Blackburn 19 Crystal Palace 23 Wigan 26 Derby 28 Sheff Utd 30 Millwall 32 Leeds 33 Wolverhampton 37 Coventry 43 Nottm Forest 90 Rushden & D'monds 84 Grimsby I'm indifferent towards: 4 Everton 7 Middlesbrough 11 Newcastle 12 Man City 14 Fulham 16 Portsmouth 18 West Brom 22 Ipswich 25 Reading 29 QPR 31 Stoke 36 Plymouth 38 Cardiff 41 Gillingham 42 Brighton 44 Rotherham 45 Luton 46 Hull 47 Tranmere 49 Bournemouth 50 Hartlepool 51 Brentford 52 Bristol City 53 Doncaster 54 Bradford 55 Swindon 56 Huddersfield 57 Barnsley 58 Chesterfield 59 Colchester 60 Blackpool 61 Oldham 62 Port Vale 63 Walsall 64 Milton Keynes Dons 65 Torquay 66 Wrexham 67 Peterborough 68 Stockport 69 Southend 70 Yeovil 71 Swansea 72 S####horpe 73 Macclesfield 74 Lincoln City 75 Darlington 76 Northampton 77 Wycombe 80 Boston Utd 82 Cheltenham 83 Oxford Utd 85 Bristol Rovers 86 Notts County 87 Bury 88 Shrewsbury 89 Chester 92 Cambridge Utd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 8 April 2005 Share Posted 8 April 2005 exactly lisa to me what ipswich did was cheating! as for us of course we must take some criticism but for people to say we cheated our way to promotion to me suggests a lack of intelligence we won games of football on the pitch not off it! and before someone says it all the players were for sale if anyone had come in for them we didn't use administration as a vehicle to keep our players! 89598[/snapback] Spot on Matt, the club got itself into the mess in the first place by paying stupid money for players who were then put on stupid money. We're not the first club to do this, and we won't be the last, I fear. I hope for Wigan Boy's sake that his club chairman doesn't fall for this very easy mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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