Negativity

[Corky]

The day gets worse for some! Sounds like he might have had a hand in the fourth too.

I suppose you mean Crewe. Sheehan is no loss to Leicester City.

[Thracian]

What did I just say about needing the right ingredients? I didn't say it couldn't be done, I said you need all the right ingredients to fall into place for it to happen (like dropping to our lowest level EVER), which is why we have been waiting 10 years.

Well done Alan Sheehan, found your level at last... shame you aren't good enough to get in our top of the table team.

D We've always had ingredients and any manager could have gone out and found some more.

Look how many people arrived here in Martin Allen's time and Ian Holloway's. Levein brought people, Kelly borrowed all and sundry. Holloway had Howard and Fryatt but he didn't make em play, didn't use proper suppliers.

Come on Babs ... how much has Pearson spent to totally transform our team, and that includes the players he already had? Not a lot and not as much as has been recovered.

As for AS I'll simply acknowledge your blind spot on that one. Not that we're top anyway.

[Tommeh]

If this has anything to do with many of us singing "3 nil is not good enough" and what a load of rubbish" on Tuesday night.

It was Sarcastic.

[Babylon]

D We've always had ingredients and any manager could have gone out and found some more.

Look how many people arrived here in Martin Allen's time and Ian Holloway's. Levein brought people, Kelly borrowed all and sundry. Holloway had Howard and Fryatt but he didn't make em play, didn't use proper suppliers.

Come on Babs ... how much has Pearson spent to totally transform our team, and that includes the players he already had? Not a lot and not as much as has been recovered.

As for AS I'll simply acknowledge your blind spot on that one. Not that we're top anyway.

Ingredients does not just mean players a manager buys!! Players like Stearman and Hume could have been bad influences, the fact we are in a lower league cannot be discounted like it's nothing. Players have settled in who were bought last season, younger players gaining maturity, yes also some good additions being made. Maybe a lack of expectation to get into the premier, a pre season under the managers belt. Even MM closing the purse strings has been an ingredient to the mix, because he has kept his nose out a bit more.... there are countless things that can contribute. It's never just as easy as walking in a telling player to win 3-0 like you seem to think, i'd wager if we were in the championship with this season with this team, we wouldn't be winning 3-0 every other game.

I'm just chuffed everything is starting to come together, I said quite a long time ago that getting relegated could be the making of us. I really hope it us and that we ALL learn from the mistakes of the past 10 years.

As for my blind spot? Care to explain... we were top at the time of writing!!!

[Thracian]

Ingredients does not just mean players a manager buys!! Players like Stearman and Hume could have been bad influences, the fact we are in a lower league cannot be discounted like it's nothing. Players have settled in who were bought last season, younger players gaining maturity, yes also some good additions being made. Maybe a lack of expectation to get into the premier, a pre season under the managers belt. Even MM closing the purse strings has been an ingredient to the mix, because he has kept his nose out a bit more.... there are countless things that can contribute. It's never just as easy as walking in a telling player to win 3-0 like you seem to think, i'd wager if we were in the championship with this season with this team, we wouldn't be winning 3-0 every other game.

I'm just chuffed everything is starting to come together, I said quite a long time ago that getting relegated could be the making of us. I really hope it us and that we ALL learn from the mistakes of the past 10 years.

As for my blind spot? Care to explain... we were top at the time of writing!!!

Why would I think it's easy? I don't think it is ever easy managing football teams, amateur or professional, and can say that from experience. There are always the factors you mention, and other variables, but while all are relevent, I don't see any of them as the key to Pearson's success except perhaps the proper pre-season.

What Pearson has done is balanced his team, allowed partnerships to form and made sure we had far more scoring potential in many more places.

A final thing is that he's not addled his team with inconsequential performers here and there.

Therefore we should almost always score goals and always be competitive whereas in previous seasons the best we were likely to manage was to simply compete. Not because of the strikers, though they were mostly disappointing, but because we had so little supply and every manager who came here should have recognised that and done something about it.

It seems though that we agree about relegation but I wouldn't be quite so sceptical about us winning by decent scores in The Championship?

Let's hope we get to find out for real but I think this side is better than our Championship side of last season and I don't believe Championship defences would find it that much easier to stop us scoring than those in Division One. Fulham didn''t.

PS: The blind spot concerned Sheehan not our League position. I was just paying the courtesy of keeping you up to date.

[Babylon]

Fulham didn''t.

Neither did they or chelsea in recent seasons.... but we still got relegated.

[Thracian]

Neither did they or chelsea in recent seasons.... but we still got relegated.

I don't want to talk about that any more.

[Narborough Bod]

You are so full of yourself it's quite unreal. Your opinions flip flop about so much it's no wonder you think you're always right because you cover every bloody base going.

I'm sorry that I'm about to drag it all up again but this last statement is absolutely spot on.

At the start of a long post, there is usually s statement of intent. However, during the post, the 'T dog' then covers all bases re a certain player / topic, whilst also leaving posers which are very much subject to interpretation.

Thus when someone puts their spin on some part of it there is always the inevitable 'at what point did I say I don't like...'etc etc.

And then it gets really boring (every time).

[Thracian]

I'm sorry that I'm about to drag it all up again but this last statement is absolutely spot on.

At the start of a long post, there is usually s statement of intent. However, during the post, the 'T dog' then covers all bases re a certain player / topic, whilst also leaving posers which are very much subject to interpretation.

Thus when someone puts their spin on some part of it there is always the inevitable 'at what point did I say I don't like...'etc etc.

And then it gets really boring (every time).

It's a viewpoint but I don't think there's anyone on here has any doubt about my footballing philosophies nor about the sort of players I think will best fulfill them.

If people want to take isolated quotes and then somehow present them as meaning more than they do, that's their choice but you can hardly blame me for responding.

Football situations do change, sometimes daily, sometimes more gradually. Most of the two years before the start of this season Fryatt was a disappointment and rarely merited his place.

Now I would think he's one of the first names on Peason's teamsheet and with every justification. Am I not right to adjust my view on Fryatt and be fair to the guy? It doesn't mean I no longer rate Dickov (as a striker) or Campbell. It means that Fryatt has earned his right to a starting place.

Criticisms are levelled if I don't think someone has merited a place and I don't think they are any less relevent just because the manager has done such a brilliant job overall.

[Narborough Bod]

It's a viewpoint but I don't think there's anyone on here has any doubt about my footballing philosophies nor about the sort of players I think will best fulfill them.

If people want to take isolated quotes or and then somehow present them as meaning more than they do, that's their choice but you can hardly blame me for responding.

Football situations do change, sometimes daily, sometimes more gradually. Most of the two years before the start of this season Fryatt was a disappointment and rarely merited his place.

Now I would think he's one of the first names on Peason's teamsheet and with every justification. Am I not right to adjust my view on Fryatt and be fair to the guy? It doesn't mean I no longer rate Dickov (as a striker) or Campbell. It means that Fryatt has earned his right to a starting place.

Criticisms are levelled if I don't think someone has merited a place and I don't think they are any less relevent just because the manager has done such a brilliant job overall.

I am pleased with your response and that unlike others you don't get into a tit for tat argument.

Moving on, I totally agree with your views on Fryatt, let down last year, so far so good this.

As for this whole thread, isn't it a British thing to build sportsmen up so that we can then slate them if / when they fail.

Using Henderson as an example. Not our best ever keeper and does make errors, but which keepers don't? The current England keepr has made some howlers in his life, but he is, at present the best keeper in the country. Hendo isn't making mistakes at the moment and he isn't costing us points yet some fans still want to snipe.

Another weekend goes by and city haven't lost, albeit by default. I'm happy.

[Anish]

I am pleased with your response and that unlike others you don't get into a tit for tat argument.

Moving on, I totally agree with your views on Fryatt, let down last year, so far so good this.

As for this whole thread, isn't it a British thing to build sportsmen up so that we can then slate them if / when they fail.

Using Henderson as an example. Not our best ever keeper and does make errors, but which keepers don't? The current England keepr has made some howlers in his life, but he is, at present the best keeper in the country. Hendo isn't making mistakes at the moment and he isn't costing us points yet some fans still want to snipe.

Another weekend goes by and city haven't lost, albeit by default. I'm happy.

You haven't read many of Thrac's posts then. Tit for tat arguments form 90% of his posts.

[Thracian]

You haven't read many of Thrac's posts then. Tit for tat arguments form 90% of his posts.

Never realised you were such an avid reader.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

It's a viewpoint but I don't think there's anyone on here has any doubt about my footballing philosophies nor about the sort of players I think will best fulfill them.

I have many doubts about your footballing philosphies. What an arrogant thing to say on your part.

[Narborough Bod]

You haven't read many of Thrac's posts then. Tit for tat arguments form 90% of his posts.

Apologies, just read the Porter missing one, wish I'd read it previously, would also have backed up my initial comment :

Quotes...

He's so underrated it's embarrassing and whatever he does I'd doubt he'll get ahead of Dyer in Pearson's eyes.

Who's suggesting Dyer should be dropped?

For the last time, no-one suggested Porter should replace Dyer.

[Ultra]

As for this whole thread, isn't it a British thing to build sportsmen up so that we can then slate them if / when they fail.

Using Henderson as an example. Not our best ever keeper and does make errors, but which keepers don't? The current England keepr has made some howlers in his life, but he is, at present the best keeper in the country. Hendo isn't making mistakes at the moment and he isn't costing us points yet some fans still want to snipe.

The reason he's not costing us points is because Pearson prefers Martin in goal for league games.

From what I hear and read, it's not just the fans who want to snipe..

[Vestan Pance]

I can understand people being negative to a certain degree. We have been total crap for 5 years, everytime we have appeared to turn the corner it's been followed up with a loss of some sort.

4 decent games in a lower league isn't enough to have me thinking we have cracked it. If we sustain this for 18 months then maybe the negativity will start to leave.

The best we can do is support the team the way we always have and try to find some middle ground, let's remember that first loss in this league is just around the corner, we don't want the 'on loan to league 1 brigade' throwing themselves under a train when it happens.

[Thracian]

I have many doubts about your footballing philosphies. What an arrogant thing to say on your part.

I didn't say or suggest that people agreed with my philosophies, just that they were well aware of what they were.

[Corky]

I didn't say or suggest that people agreed with my philosophies, just that they were well aware of what they were.

I think your defensive, slow-paced philosophy is quite wrong

[Thracian]

I think your defensive, slow-paced philosophy is quite wrong

I knew someone would have taken notice.