Lamby Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 Looks like he shall be gone in a few minutes or hours. Stay tuned
Daggers Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 Looks like he shall be gone in a few minutes or hours.Stay tuned Not exactly a surprise though, eh?
Lamby Posted 22 November 2008 Author Posted 22 November 2008 Can barely hold back my excitement. Anyone can do better than him, like today he had 3 strikers on the bench, WTF?
Lamby Posted 22 November 2008 Author Posted 22 November 2008 Not exactly a surprise though, eh? Nah. I dont see what a week can do, out-playing the team 2nd in the league last sat, now today losing 5-2 to Sheff Utd.
Samilktray Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 Anyone can do better than him, like today he had 3 strikers on the bench, WTF? Like who cares on a Leicester forum. WTF?
Lamby Posted 22 November 2008 Author Posted 22 November 2008 http://www.cafc.co.uk/newsview.ink?nid=33276 Official
Simi Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 Shit. Didn't see that coming. Charlton are a madhouse! Crazy.
Daggers Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 I was saying down the pub before our last home game that you and Watford are pretty ****ed now. Your money is going to run out, you still have players on fat salaries and a fanbase that will start to shrink on the back of ongoing failure. It's going to take more than a change of manager to reverse your fortunes - you need a top to bottom overhaul otherwise you'll end up like us.
Daggers Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 http://www.cafc.co.uk/newsview.ink?nid=33276Official Ian Holloway Holloway Ian Holloway Nanananananananananaa
Lamby Posted 22 November 2008 Author Posted 22 November 2008 I was saying down the pub before our last home game that you and Watford are pretty ****ed now.Your money is going to run out, you still have players on fat salaries and a fanbase that will start to shrink on the back of ongoing failure. It's going to take more than a change of manager to reverse your fortunes - you need a top to bottom overhaul otherwise you'll end up like us. If we dont turn things around, we will go down, go into Adminastration, lose our ground and go kaput. Ian HollowayHolloway Ian Holloway Nanananananananananaa Nah, Aidy FTW!
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 I wouldn't shed a tear if Charlton ended up in League One.
Tevez Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 Why do you post on a Leicester forum? Randomers these days... Only one decent thing to come from Charlton and thats the main man Luke Varney.
Daggers Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 Why do you post on a Leicester forum? Randomers these days...Only one decent thing to come from Charlton and thats the main man Luke Varney. I'd much rather this bloke post here, Charlton fan or not, than a lot of the abject bellends who are members of FT...as General Chat has been witness to this last week. 1. He's not a cvnt. 2. He's not thick. Afterall, this in a general sport thread in the general sport section. I don't see the problem.
LeeCovFox Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 In fairness this is the general sport forum and this is a general sport matter. Our own plight illustrates the cost of relegation from the money rich Premier League to the comparably poor Football League. Clubs find it extremely difficult to adjust after, periods of high wage bills and transfer fees in the top flight. Ten of the bottom twelve Championship clubs have tasted Premiership football in the last decade. Only five such clubs compete in the top half of that league. I think that tells its own story. I have always quite liked Charlton, although the way they treated Iain Dowie after such a short period in charge was a little off putting. I wish our own demise on no other club. It is the fans that suffer and the mahority do not deserve that. As far as I can see, the situation in which many clubs find themselves after relegation from the top division is due to a lack of foresight, combined with greed once Premier League status has been achieved. Those responsible are those who own or run the clubs. It doesn't take a genius to realise that clubs of the size of our own, and others who have been relegated from the Premier League, tend not to maintain top flight status indefinitely. Coventry City came closest to bucking the trend by surviving (sometimes only just) at the top table for nigh on forty years. But most of that time was pre-Premier League and Sky Sports. Daggers' evaluation of both Watford and Charlton rings true. Club chairmen, it seems, never learn. Bradford City spent two seasons in the top division, spent a lot of money on transfers and wages, but couldn't cope once relegated. They are now in the fourth division. The most glaring lesson of all to take heed of is that of Leeds United. A massive club historically, who had a young side doing well in Europe which was tipped by many to be the next dominant force in English football. We all know what happened next. I am never quite sure whether the money in football alone is to blame to what is happening to our game, or if it is simply the greed of those eyeing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Probably the combination of the two. Either way, it isn't pretty.
ousefox Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 Everybody new this would happen. Charlton were staying strong in the premiership under Curbishley but do not have a team now that can do anything in the championship!
dandannieldanok Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 It's all very well disposing managers like this but where do these clubs expect to find another decent one, they don't just fall off trees. Leicester failed last season and couldn't find a manager good enough, and I'm not entirely sure where clubs like Watford and Charlton are going to find someone now. Patience is needed, especially when clubs like Watford and Charlton have no cash, it's more money wasted on severance pay. Perhaps I might feel differently if I was a fan of one of these clubs, but after last season I certainly think keeping the same manager for as long as possible is the right way to go.
Kilworthfox Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 It's all very well disposing managers like this but where do these clubs expect to find another decent one, they don't just fall off trees. Leicester failed last season and couldn't find a manager good enough, and I'm not entirely sure where clubs like Watford and Charlton are going to find someone now. Patience is needed, especially when clubs like Watford and Charlton have no cash, it's more money wasted on severance pay. Perhaps I might feel differently if I was a fan of one of these clubs, but after last season I certainly think keeping the same manager for as long as possible is the right way to go. Also that Luke Varneh is crap he needs to look at himself and come to a small club like Leicester & re-build his career.
Daggers Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 It's all very well disposing managers like this but where do these clubs expect to find another decent one, they don't just fall off trees. Leicester failed last season and couldn't find a manager good enough, and I'm not entirely sure where clubs like Watford and Charlton are going to find someone now. Patience is needed, especially when clubs like Watford and Charlton have no cash, it's more money wasted on severance pay. Perhaps I might feel differently if I was a fan of one of these clubs, but after last season I certainly think keeping the same manager for as long as possible is the right way to go. True - but when all confidence has gone it has been proven time and again that you can get 'new manager bounce'. It just happened that our tool of a Chairman couldn't make a decent appointment. I think when faced with your parachute payments expiring, playings on Premiership salaries and Division III staring you in the eyes it would take an amazing turn of events to keep a manager in the post. Both Charlton and Watford really are on the brink of something very serious and that calls for serious measures.
dandannieldanok Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 Does anyone know if Charlton still have the same chairman/ownership from when they brought Les Reed in? If so then I can't see much hope for them and the next choice.
Kilworthfox Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 True - but when all confidence has gone it has been proven time and again that you can get 'new manager bounce'.It just happened that our tool of a Chairman couldn't make a decent appointment. I think when faced with your parachute payments expiring, playings on Premiership salaries and Division III staring you in the eyes it would take an amazing turn of events to keep a manager in the post. Both Charlton and Watford really are on the brink of something very serious and that calls for serious measures. :w00t: You what? Milan loves the club and the fans, he knows what he is doing, it is fans like you running him down all the time that is rotting our club! Milan I luv ya duck!
Lamby Posted 22 November 2008 Author Posted 22 November 2008 Does anyone know if Charlton still have the same chairman/ownership from when they brought Les Reed in? If so then I can't see much hope for them and the next choice. Erm, we have the same ownership, got a new chairman though
Kilworthfox Posted 22 November 2008 Posted 22 November 2008 Erm, we have the same ownership, got a new chairman though How's our Varneh doing?
Lamby Posted 22 November 2008 Author Posted 22 November 2008 How's our Varneh doing? He couldnt score in a brothel
Ultra Posted 23 November 2008 Posted 23 November 2008 No surprise, really, especially after yesterday's result. Like Forest, they're in a relegation dogfight. And it's by no means certain they'll get out of it. Could they be swapping divisions with Millwall?
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