Shrenchel Posted 17 February 2009 Posted 17 February 2009 I heard MK Dons contest the factual accuracy of historical accounts of the holocaust.
Samilktray Posted 17 February 2009 Posted 17 February 2009 I cant believe people still fcuking care about this?It's only a football team you dumb c*nts. You speak the truth. Only saddos are bothered about it now.
James. Posted 17 February 2009 Posted 17 February 2009 I cant believe people still fcuking care about this?It's only a football team you dumb c*nts. I was about to write something very similar in here when I saw it back at the top of the page. Maybe without the word c*nts though.
leftsideoverhere Posted 17 February 2009 Posted 17 February 2009 Well, I still care about it. Like I still care about lots of things that other people tell me I should "get over". Franchising of sports teams is the norm in the USA, where franchises move regularly, and there is very little loyalty by sports teams shown to their fans. Each team is purely a business, and moves to wherever they think they can make the most profit. Sports fans are understandably very, very pissed off by this attitude. In the UK that has never been the case, and teams are fixtures - we grow up supporting our local teams, and many of us live and die supporting just one team (you do sing, "I'm Leicester 'til I die", right?). MK Dons represent the first attempt in modern English football to introduce that American approach of seeing the club as just a brand, a marketing exercise for the 'product' which is the league or the sport itself. If MK Dons had been a more successful enterprise in the early years, it seemed likely that other clubs might follow suit. That's why I despise the Dons, and all that are associated with them. If Milton Keynes wanted to develop a football club then go through the non-league structure the way other teams have done. Rushden and Diamonds, for instance, is a club built on money, and by merging two non-league teams, but at least it has some kind of real links to the local area, and a genuine fanbase. MK Dons had none of this - it was an import into the area, which destroyed an existing football club in the process. AFC Wimbledon is an amazing story, and I can't wait for the first time they get to play MK Dons in the FA Cup. I was watching a DVD of 'The Wire' the other day (which is, incidentally, ****in' excellent) and there's a scene in one of the episodes in series 2 where one of the characters, a working bloke off the docks, is playing darts in the union office, and on the dartboard there's a picture of a man, so that every dart goes right into his face. Who is he? Robert Irsay, owner of the the Baltimore Colts (American Football team) who used the cover of darkness one night to spirit the team to its new home in Indianapolis. This was in 1983, and sports fans in Baltimore still hate the man, twenty years later. And so they should. "Get over it"? Hands up who would be able to "get over it" if Milan decided he'd make a quicker return on his investment if the team he owns became "Northampton Foxes"?
Master Fox Posted 17 February 2009 Posted 17 February 2009 Well, I still care about it. Like I still care about lots of things that other people tell me I should "get over". Franchising of sports teams is the norm in the USA, where franchises move regularly, and there is very little loyalty by sports teams shown to their fans. Each team is purely a business, and moves to wherever they think they can make the most profit. Sports fans are understandably very, very pissed off by this attitude.In the UK that has never been the case, and teams are fixtures - we grow up supporting our local teams, and many of us live and die supporting just one team (you do sing, "I'm Leicester 'til I die", right?). MK Dons represent the first attempt in modern English football to introduce that American approach of seeing the club as just a brand, a marketing exercise for the 'product' which is the league or the sport itself. If MK Dons had been a more successful enterprise in the early years, it seemed likely that other clubs might follow suit. That's why I despise the Dons, and all that are associated with them. If Milton Keynes wanted to develop a football club then go through the non-league structure the way other teams have done. Rushden and Diamonds, for instance, is a club built on money, and by merging two non-league teams, but at least it has some kind of real links to the local area, and a genuine fanbase. MK Dons had none of this - it was an import into the area, which destroyed an existing football club in the process. AFC Wimbledon is an amazing story, and I can't wait for the first time they get to play MK Dons in the FA Cup. I was watching a DVD of 'The Wire' the other day (which is, incidentally, ****in' excellent) and there's a scene in one of the episodes in series 2 where one of the characters, a working bloke off the docks, is playing darts in the union office, and on the dartboard there's a picture of a man, so that every dart goes right into his face. Who is he? Robert Irsay, owner of the the Baltimore Colts (American Football team) who used the cover of darkness one night to spirit the team to its new home in Indianapolis. This was in 1983, and sports fans in Baltimore still hate the man, twenty years later. And so they should. "Get over it"? Hands up who would be able to "get over it" if Milan decided he'd make a quicker return on his investment if the team he owns became "Northampton Foxes"? Nobody cares.
Fosse Boy Posted 17 February 2009 Posted 17 February 2009 Well thanks for clarifying that. You’re obviously a complete and utter ****, just to clarify like.... Erm, cheers for that. It's not as if I was having a go at Milton Keynes, I've personally got nothing against the place. I was merely quoting the thread starter. Oh and leftsideoverhere, bang on the money.
C-man Posted 17 February 2009 Posted 17 February 2009 At the end of the day, it was wrong that Wimbledon became franchised and moved to Milton Keynes, however, the fans hardly turned out in droves to watch the original Dons did they??? Maybe the time of just having 2-3,000 fans turn up to watch one game highlighted that they probably weren't 'geared' to be fighting a top two-tier level. I keep hearing this argument of they had 2-3000 fans turn up to one football league match as an excuse for what happened to Wimbledon F.C. Let's have it right. 1. The club was losing money at a ridiculous rate, and the ORIGINAL OWNERS suggested moving the club away from London to a more profitable location. 2. Pete Winkelman expressed interest in the club, bought the club and announced plans for the club. (ie, move it to Milton Keynes) 3. The F.A. somehow let it happen. 4. Disillusioned fans, as a form of protest, stopped attending, and attendances fell from around what Crystal Palace now achieve to 2000 within a season. Most of them were away fans. Wimbledon fans never deserved the loss of their club, but football is a business nowadays, everyone has to accept that, so there's nothing anyone could do then, or can do now.
Alexikokopops Posted 17 February 2009 Posted 17 February 2009 I definitely don't think we've discussed this enough. We need at least four more threads before the actual game
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