Standing or sitting?

[lou]

is the Walkers quiet?

Is the Pope Catholic?

[Geo V]

Best days were standing in the Penns at Filbo and risking life and limb when we score a goal and some crackhead or two try to smash my face in during celebration. With the health and safety turds ruining the world, we have no chance of standing again. Its not about the fans anymore as most would want to stand and should have standing areas but the game has gone corporate.

[JoeyB]

In fairness, the last 'crush' I saw was Fulham away in the Carling Cup '08 and that wasn't toooo bad. Some guy got his glasses bent, a few ppl went flying down a couple of rows, but it wasn't life threatening.

Your second point is probably the most important though; you can't have standing sections (not least because of the Hillsboro' laws) because stadiums are all seater nowadays. Imagine the old surges? Now imagine the whole of the Kop is standing and now imagine people surging over the seats when we score? Not pretty... If you want standing and singing areas, you'd have to get rid of all the seats for that area first. I know we stand and sing in L and K, but that's only a few hundred, not a few thousand.

I'm not that fussed about sitting down, especially at home. If there's someone sitting behind me, I'll usually sit or if I REALLY want to stand, will just ask to swap. I'm not gonna be a disabled and block their view though, so would sit if necessary. Take Reading away this year, yeah the back third stood and the front third sat, but in the middle it was brilliant. Sit when you want, stand when you want (I've got terrible knees, can't stand for the full 90... I'm only in my early 20s n all...)

But yeah, its not gonna change at home and ultimately, its not that big a deal.

Why is it then when some grounds have concerts they all stand at a football ground? standing at a concert is just the same as standing at the footie pretty much, the main difference is you don't have goals to celebrate but you still move to the music tho don't ya? and im sure that when the Tigers play at the walkers they all stand, and they take beer into the actual seating area so why is that different for football again?

In Germany they have safe standing area's and it works a treat, so why can we not have it here? Hillsborough was a one of, just like that Air France plane crashing into the sea last year ( a bit ott but you see my point im trying to raise).

Standing at the footie is a much better way to create atmosphere, you can get louder chants by standing as you can project your voice more when standing, if there was one way to improve the walkers i would introduce a safe standing area for the back 5 odd rows all round the ground to start off with at least that way everyone who wants to stand can stand there and it should increase the atmosphere!

And last season was the best season for away days, i cant remember one game that i went to where i was made to sit, the atmosphere at everyaway game was great!

Standing at southend (what a day) Yeovil, Hereford and leeds was great!

Oh and incase you've not guessed im all for standing, but if i have to sit i will!

[PAULCFC]

Thought Cardiff was quite good for the stewards letting us stand,considering it was a new ground

[john_lcfc]

and Barnsley, who didnt seem to give a monkeys that the isles were totally rammed. I got told to move out of the isle at Forest and it was just me stood there a bit.

good work Barnsley, why the inconsistency among clubs?

[sbfox]

Why is it then when some grounds have concerts they all stand at a football ground? standing at a concert is just the same as standing at the footie pretty much, the main difference is you don't have goals to celebrate but you still move to the music tho don't ya? and im sure that when the Tigers play at the walkers they all stand, and they take beer into the actual seating area so why is that different for football again?

In Germany they have safe standing area's and it works a treat, so why can we not have it here? Hillsborough was a one of, just like that Air France plane crashing into the sea last year ( a bit ott but you see my point im trying to raise).

Standing at the footie is a much better way to create atmosphere, you can get louder chants by standing as you can project your voice more when standing, if there was one way to improve the walkers i would introduce a safe standing area for the back 5 odd rows all round the ground to start off with at least that way everyone who wants to stand can stand there and it should increase the atmosphere!

And last season was the best season for away days, i cant remember one game that i went to where i was made to sit, the atmosphere at everyaway game was great!

Standing at southend (what a day) Yeovil, Hereford and leeds was great!

Oh and incase you've not guessed im all for standing, but if i have to sit i will!

Wow, I wrote that a long time ago! I'm probably on the balance for safe standing too, but I was just making the point of WHY at the moment we don't have it.

Rugby and concerts are very different to football, when the Tigers score, I assume they just kinda... cheer, without moving? Concerts too, people don't go absolutely mental when/if their team scores. Rightly or wrongly, football fans just have a different rep to many other sports and we suffer as a result.

I dunno about your Hillsboro point either, it had been coming and stadiums are undoubtedly a lot safer than they were. Of course, that tragedy also involved some terrible mistakes by the police and its actually unclear how much the Liverpool fans were to blame, but that's a different issue.

I agree though, standing usually generates a 'better' atmosphere, I think I'm just quite conservative and not someone who's pushing for all out stadium reform...

[Fosse Boy]

Concerts too, people don't go absolutely mental

Not sure about that!