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Standing or sitting?

  

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  1. 1. Standing or sitting?

    • Standing
      110
    • Sitting
      11
    • Makes no difference
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Posted
No, not goal music. But seeing as those wanting to see the back of it are in the minority, it's a moot point.

Damn, I was hoping a few bribes in the right direction could've sweetened a few things. :D

The FCC's opinions are also just a microcosm of LCFC support so why take their opinions?

Exactly. Why not leave a card on everyones seat and ask for a vote? Surely that's fair and a true representation.

And are the club still sticking by that psychological malarky they came out with as the reason to keeping the music?

Posted
Damn, I was hoping a few bribes in the right direction could've sweetened a few things. :D

Exactly. Why not leave a card on everyones seat and ask for a vote? Surely that's fair and a true representation.

And are the club still sticking by that psychological malarky they came out with as the reason to keeping the music?

Yeah they think they have been extra clever on that count, by involving the players / performance = results & support your team = goal music, answer they gave.

Posted
Are you on about goal music or standing?

The players & manager now dictate how the supporters celebrate / position themselves to watch them play, utterly brilliant fook ups again by the club!

Goal music. There's no reason to put standing to the vote, as it's not permitted full stop.

Posted
And are the club still sticking by that psychological malarky they came out with as the reason to keeping the music?

Apparently it's now played during the warm up, when the players are taking shots at goal. It's all psychology.

I say apparently, as I am still in the pub at this point.

Posted
Sorry, but I do too now we use Kasabian. :blush:

Dont get me wrong I dont like it at all (post goal music) but its not as embarrassing as Chelsea Dagger was and that stupid retarded dance afterwards :rolleyes:

Posted
Goal music. There's no reason to put standing to the vote, as it's not permitted full stop.

Ah yes I forget that I am breaking the rules when I stand up, what a terrible person I am!

Posted
Ah yes I forget that I am breaking the rules when I stand up, what a terrible person I am!

To be fair, standing in a seating area is dangerous. Say when they score, people start charging forward, you can end up being crushed.

Obviously that's why it's banned unless your in a stand with terracing.

Posted
To be fair, standing in a seating area is dangerous. Say when they score, people start charging forward, you can end up being crushed.

Obviously that's why it's banned unless your in a stand with terracing.

I want to stand (others are standing in front (lie) of me meaning I have to stand), I want to watch the game, I like to stretch my legs, My doctors says it is unhealthy for me to sit for prolonged periods, I get back spasms if I sit for longer than 44 minutes 59 seconds exactly, I have piles, I recently have been anally raped & it hurts to sit!

There are seats where I want / need to stand, Do you have a solution to my problem? :thumbup:

Posted
To be fair, standing in a seating area is dangerous. Say when they score, people start charging forward, you can end up being crushed.

Obviously that's why it's banned unless your in a stand with terracing.

i can't work out if you're joking or not?

the only reason standing is dangerous in seating areas is because everytime we score i smash my shins against the SEAT

so if they removed the seat, i wouldnt smash my shins..... sorted

and crush??? anyone care to tell me the last time a 'crush' happened by fans standing in a seated area. theres sort of SEATS in the way to stop that from happening to be fair

the simple thing to do would be to sell 2 groups of tickets, one set for people who want to sit and one set for people who want to stand. the club could even advertise them as 'singing tickets' or some crap like that so they dont seem to be condoning standing in seated areas

but like its been said a million times, the club isnt interested in the type of fan who wants to stand up and sing, they'd prefer the stadium full of families, so its easier to control

Posted
Ah yes I forget that I am breaking the rules when I stand up, what a terrible person I am!

You're learning. You'll be swaying along to Kasabian in no time....

Posted
You're learning. You'll be swaying along to Kasabian in no time....

I actually dislike that song now because it reminds me of goal music, It is not a particular Kasabian favourite of mine any way :thumbup:

Posted

lol

Look I'm not getting involved in the standing seating debate, I shouldn't have replied. For the record I would rather stand but it's something which doesn't irritate me enough to get angry over on a forum.

If it's that much of a deal why don't people get together in a large group and protest outside the Walkers. Stand up and be counted. You can complain all you like on foxestalk but f all will be done about it. :thumbup:

Posted
If it's that much of a deal why don't people get together in a large group and protest outside the Walkers. Stand up and be counted. You can complain all you like on foxestalk but f all will be done about it. :thumbup:

>_<

Posted
Damn, I was hoping a few bribes in the right direction could've sweetened a few things. :D

Exactly. Why not leave a card on everyones seat and ask for a vote? Surely that's fair and a true representation.

And are the club still sticking by that psychological malarky they came out with as the reason to keeping the music?

Bacause last time they did that with the red card thing everyone made paper aeroplanes out of them and threw them on the pitch lol

Cue stewards running round L1 screaming " youll have someones eye out with that" at nine year olds. I kid you not :rolleyes:

Posted

Going to Peterborough away last season showed my whats its like to stand up proper (not the 'ohh lets stand up and errrr, abuse the other fans and not watch the game at all' standing) and it's alright I suppose.

Look, I like sitting down, but if I had to stand up (like some away games) then I wouldn't have a problem.

The thing I hate is people standing in front of you when its a seating area and no one else is standing and also when it is standing people using it as an excuse to cause trouble and/or smoke. Thats all.

So, although I voted for sitting, I wouldn't mind.

But, we have to sit anyway really and theres nothing we can do about it thus its inconclusive (I hope I have spelt that correct and used it in the correct context)

Posted
lol

Look I'm not getting involved in the standing seating debate, I shouldn't have replied. For the record I would rather stand but it's something which doesn't irritate me enough to get angry over on a forum.

If it's that much of a deal why don't people get together in a large group and protest outside the Walkers. Stand up and be counted. You can complain all you like on foxestalk but f all will be done about it. :thumbup:

FYI...

Almost 3 years ago now an idea was set up mainly by people on here (JME and Floating Fox) and was given the go ahead by the club, it involved N block becoming a singing area where inevitably a good few hundered intended to stand just as L1 does on the other side of the away fans. It worked well to start with Coventry, Derby, West Brom all saw much improved atmsopheres.

The club saw it was creating problems, why? I don't know, more policing and stewarding needed probably so did all they could for the scheme to end, Jamie and another guy were taken out against Norwich and it quickly faded away, it's quite obvious they don't want our type of fans in the ground.

Standing won't come back officially anytime soon, theres certainly nothing LCFC can do - it has to come from the top, thats why theres a campaign - Standupsitdown which is well represented by most clubs in the top 2 divisions (and theres a good 6 City fans actively on there) and aims to get standing back in the top divisions. Whilst the laws havn't changed the levels of standing in seated areas has dramatically, it's now incredibly rare for a club to not have a least a block eg. L1 which stands all the time and for around 30% f an away end stood.

It's not like things arn't being tried.

Posted
Going to Peterborough away last season showed my whats its like to stand up proper (not the 'ohh lets stand up and errrr, abuse the other fans and not watch the game at all' standing) and it's alright I suppose.

Look, I like sitting down, but if I had to stand up (like some away games) then I wouldn't have a problem.

The thing I hate is people standing in front of you when its a seating area and no one else is standing and also when it is standing people using it as an excuse to cause trouble and/or smoke. Thats all.

So, although I voted for sitting, I wouldn't mind.

But, we have to sit anyway really and theres nothing we can do about it thus its inconclusive (I hope I have spelt that correct and used it in the correct context)

I agree, but that is just rudeness! Just tell them to go to the back of the stand :thumbup:

Posted
>_<

Mock all you like my friend. At the end of the day we are a culture who moan with no action. It's called "The Great British Moan". http://www.myspace.com/mcwrec

Bacause last time they did that with the red card thing everyone made paper aeroplanes out of them and threw them on the pitch lol

Cue stewards running round L1 screaming " youll have someones eye out with that" at nine year olds. I kid you not :rolleyes:

Okay then, why not give a card at the turnstiles to each adult and an extra one for each child but let the adults fill them out on behalf of their kids so they don't throw them away. :thumbup:

Posted
FYI...

Almost 3 years ago now an idea was set up mainly by people on here (JME and Floating Fox) and was given the go ahead by the club, it involved N block becoming a singing area where inevitably a good few hundered intended to stand just as L1 does on the other side of the away fans. It worked well to start with Coventry, Derby, West Brom all saw much improved atmsopheres.

The club saw it was creating problems, why? I don't know, more policing and stewarding needed probably so did all they could for the scheme to end, Jamie and another guy were taken out against Norwich and it quickly faded away, it's quite obvious they don't want our type of fans in the ground.

Standing won't come back officially anytime soon, theres certainly nothing LCFC can do - it has to come from the top, thats why theres a campaign - Standupsitdown which is well represented by most clubs in the top 2 divisions (and theres a good 6 City fans actively on there) and aims to get standing back in the top divisions. Whilst the laws havn't changed the levels of standing in seated areas has dramatically, it's now incredibly rare for a club to not have a least a block eg. L1 which stands all the time and for around 30% f an away end stood.

It's not like things arn't being tried.

My guess is that the club had to close it down or the SAG would have closed that area of the ground using their legal powers, clubs really have no say in standing since the hillsborough rulings came into effect and they do get threatened by SAG's that want to close areas of stadia. We are lucky that there is enough common sense out there for some tolerance in many cases.

Posted
FYI...

Almost 3 years ago now an idea was set up mainly by people on here (JME and Floating Fox) and was given the go ahead by the club, it involved N block becoming a singing area where inevitably a good few hundered intended to stand just as L1 does on the other side of the away fans. It worked well to start with Coventry, Derby, West Brom all saw much improved atmsopheres.

The club saw it was creating problems, why? I don't know, more policing and stewarding needed probably so did all they could for the scheme to end, Jamie and another guy were taken out against Norwich and it quickly faded away, it's quite obvious they don't want our type of fans in the ground.

Standing won't come back officially anytime soon, theres certainly nothing LCFC can do - it has to come from the top, thats why theres a campaign - Standupsitdown which is well represented by most clubs in the top 2 divisions (and theres a good 6 City fans actively on there) and aims to get standing back in the top divisions. Whilst the laws havn't changed the levels of standing in seated areas has dramatically, it's now incredibly rare for a club to not have a least a block eg. L1 which stands all the time and for around 30% f an away end stood.

It's not like things arn't being tried.

I vaguely remember hearing about that on here. Fair enough for trying, in fact, hats off to you lot for doing something you believe strongly in. At least your doing something constructive.

I still wouldn't give up though. At the end of the day you pay like any other fan so you'd think that your money is just as important to them.

Posted
My guess is that the club had to close it down or the SAG would have closed that area of the ground using their legal powers, clubs really have no say in standing since the hillsborough rulings came into effect and they do get threatened by SAG's that want to close areas of stadia. We are lucky that there is enough common sense out there for some tolerance in many cases.

My fucking arse they would. If that was the case, L1 would have been done away with a long time ago.

Posted
My fucking arse they would. If that was the case, L1 would have been done away with a long time ago.

They won't close L1 because they haven't got the bollocks to take on an area that big, they would have shut down your singing section because it was small enough to cope with and they had the backing of some of the family standers.

Posted

I think club sanctioned singing sections are always gunna run into problems re standing. Although they turn a blind eye in some areas of the ground, I guess they start bricking it that they could be seen to have facilitated a new standing area.

Got a West Brom mate who said the same thing has happened there this season, stewards turning into right cvnts since the 'singing section' became a more organised thing. Although, apparently the club have started reserving a block at away games for people who want to sing which they seem to know has resulted in a guaranteed standing block for those that want it but they don't really give a shit. Decent idea that, can't see Leicester going for it though.

Posted
My fucking arse they would. If that was the case, L1 would have been done away with a long time ago.

Did you get any feedback or an official explanation from the club as to why your idea was apparently causing problems?

Posted
Did you get any feedback or an official explanation from the club as to why your idea was apparently causing problems?

Doubt it as that would involve the club taking the time/caring enough to respond to fans. :rolleyes:

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