leftsideoverhere Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 I sat in the West stand yesterday , other end from the kop cause i went with my dad and he cant stand for a full game and although i'm a pretty big L1 head i have to say i was suprised by how much you can hear the kop If only ALL those singers in the kop who want to sing and stand moved to L1, the ground could have a decent atmopshere ... or if all the people in L1 moved to the Kop we could have a proper Kop with the whole end stood up... Thing is, I've thought about moving to L1, but for all the banter with the away fans, it's still a side-on view, which feels too much like I'm in the main stand or, even worse, Filbo's East Stand, like I was 30 years ago when my mum took me! There's just something special about watching the game from behind a goal, seeing the game flow towards you or away from you as the case may be. There's a reason why traditionally the 'kop' areas of football grounds were at the ends. Main stand views are for the people who literally want to see both sides; the kop is for the partisans. There's actually a lot of us in the Kop, too, and even if many don't stand and sing for the full 90 we can often get half the Kop chanting or clapping to something. Move us all into L1 and ... well, you couldn't... it'd be L and K and J too, and we'd be mixed in with the current K and J folks who don't want to sing or stand up, but just munch their sandwiches and clap politely at the halfway line. I'm all for the idea of switching the kop and the family stand, and trying to bring the L1ers and the Kopites together in the north stand. But asking the Kopites to migrate to L1 isn't as great an idea as it sounds. We might gain a bigger block of chanting in L1 but we'd lose the impressive wall of sound that comes down behind the away team's keeper during that tense last minute corner...
Ozwin Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 The kop can be decent at times, people say it's quiet but the same can be said for L1 in terms of noise (although they clearly get the chants going more than we do), I think it's just the stadium, the noise filters out really easily. Saying that I'd prefer to be in L1 purely because of the banter with the away fans and the fact everyone stands. leftsideoverhere has got it spot on though, it doesn't feel right if the kop isn't behind the goal but I suppose we don't have much choice if we want a vocal, intimidating section and the L1'ers aren't going to move now they know what it's like down their end, I think I'll move next season but the kop isn't that bad.
LCFC-ARAB Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 There are hundreds of theories on how we could change the atmopshere at the walkers but nothing major will happen without the clubs help and the fact is the club dont want the kind of fan that stands up and sings all game it's far easier to control people sitting down in their seats in silence it was tried with the singers section in N block and if you want to know why that failed ask Barclay and Jamie EDIT: i forgot to add.... so if people are that passionate about making an atmosphere i honestly think they need to move to L1, the Kop is a sinking ship and it will only get worse and people in L1 won't move back. sorry to say but if people want any atmosphere that is anywhere near what we had at Filbert Street they will eventually have to move to L1, if they arent asked to move by the club cause people in the Kop start complaining about the noise.....
Ozwin Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 Is there a particular area of the L1 to avoid? I don't wanna be in the mix with Jobber's heavies tbh
LCFC-ARAB Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 Is there a particular area of the L1 to avoid? I don't wanna be in the mix with Jobber's heavies tbh No Everyone's friendly You'll be suprised what it's like the first time you go there I was when i moved 5 years ago
Shrenchel Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 ... or if all the people in L1 moved to the Kop we could have a proper Kop with the whole end stood up... Thing is, I've thought about moving to L1, but for all the banter with the away fans, it's still a side-on view, which feels too much like I'm in the main stand or, even worse, Filbo's East Stand, like I was 30 years ago when my mum took me! There's just something special about watching the game from behind a goal, seeing the game flow towards you or away from you as the case may be. There's a reason why traditionally the 'kop' areas of football grounds were at the ends. Main stand views are for the people who literally want to see both sides; the kop is for the partisans. There's actually a lot of us in the Kop, too, and even if many don't stand and sing for the full 90 we can often get half the Kop chanting or clapping to something. Move us all into L1 and ... well, you couldn't... it'd be L and K and J too, and we'd be mixed in with the current K and J folks who don't want to sing or stand up, but just munch their sandwiches and clap politely at the halfway line. I'm all for the idea of switching the kop and the family stand, and trying to bring the L1ers and the Kopites together in the north stand. But asking the Kopites to migrate to L1 isn't as great an idea as it sounds. We might gain a bigger block of chanting in L1 but we'd lose the impressive wall of sound that comes down behind the away team's keeper during that tense last minute corner... Think that's the first time I've heard the Walkers' south stand be called an impressive wall of sound. It's barely a fvcking curtain partition.
Daggers Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 The impressive "curtain partition of discomfort" is the major reason top players are clamouring to join us.
Sods Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 Actually dont mind it in the 'Kop' anymore, decent people round me and its alright when it goes going.
lcfc_jme Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 Atmosphere debates on this site are boring and don't get anywhere. Neither will atmosphere discussions with the club. Fact is, until all of our fans can be arsed, the atmosphere will remain completely shit at home.
Edmund Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 Atmosphere debates on this site are boring and don't get anywhere. Neither will atmosphere discussions with the club. Fact is, until all of our fans can be arsed, the atmosphere will remain completely shit at home. Why don't we just swap the family stand with the kop
lcfc_jme Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 Why don't we just swap the family stand with the kop or move the away fans to the corner of the Kop??
Ozwin Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 I'd say we should all wear scarfs with the clubs original colours in protest but that wouldn't work would it?
leftsideoverhere Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 Thing is, I get why everyone is saying that nothing's going to happen cos the club aren't interested and so on, but, the club isn't just the stewards and the suits. The playing staff probably do want the maximum possible atmosphere. They, and NP, certainly go on about it enough. And the season ticket renewal "brochure" says of the Kop: The traditional heartbeat of the home ofLeicester City, the Spion Kop, is full of atmosphere and noise. ... so they're trading on the Kop's reputation, and that means they can't entirely want it to be quiet and polite. I can't see why the club wouldn't be open to a persuasive argument on this. We all want to be victims of an evil soulless bureaucracy, it's the stuff movies are made of, but standing up at a football match doesn't make me Luke Skywalker, and Lee Hoos is not, in fact, Darth Vader. As this season has gone on, slowly more and more folks in the top rows of the kop have been standing, and I've still only been asked to sit down once all season. To whit, "Please sit down, my boss has come over and I need to ask you to sit down." I did, for about three minutes. There are policing objections to moving the away fans, but it genuinely makes no sense to put the family stand next to the visitors. Has the club ever given an actual reason for not investigating the option of switching the kop and the family stand?
Jimmy Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 I'd say we should all wear scarfs with the clubs original colours in protest but that wouldn't work would it? our "1st colours" are those of our current away kit
LCFC-ARAB Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 Thing is, I get why everyone is saying that nothing's going to happen cos the club aren't interested and so on, but, the club isn't just the stewards and the suits. The playing staff probably do want the maximum possible atmosphere. They, and NP, certainly go on about it enough. And the season ticket renewal "brochure" says of the Kop: ... so they're trading on the Kop's reputation, and that means they can't entirely want it to be quiet and polite. I can't see why the club wouldn't be open to a persuasive argument on this. We all want to be victims of an evil soulless bureaucracy, it's the stuff movies are made of, but standing up at a football match doesn't make me Luke Skywalker, and Lee Hoos is not, in fact, Darth Vader. As this season has gone on, slowly more and more folks in the top rows of the kop have been standing, and I've still only been asked to sit down once all season. To whit, "Please sit down, my boss has come over and I need to ask you to sit down." I did, for about three minutes. There are policing objections to moving the away fans, but it genuinely makes no sense to put the family stand next to the visitors. Has the club ever given an actual reason for not investigating the option of switching the kop and the family stand? Read what it says about L1.... i can't remember exactly but i remember it mentioning us The reason they wont move the kop to the north stand is because the sun will be in the fans eyes and that is the honest reason given by people in the current kop
Ozwin Posted 26 March 2010 Posted 26 March 2010 our "1st colours" are those of our current away kit Exactly.
lovelcfc Posted 27 March 2010 Author Posted 27 March 2010 We couldnt put the kop near the away fans there would be to much trouble but it would be a good atmosphere
leftsideoverhere Posted 27 March 2010 Posted 27 March 2010 We couldnt put the kop near the away fans there would be to much trouble but it would be a good atmosphere Why would there be any more trouble from the kop being next to the away fans than there is from L block being next to them?
lovelcfc Posted 27 March 2010 Author Posted 27 March 2010 Why would there be any more trouble from the kop being next to the away fans than there is from L block being next to them? Good point
davieG Posted 27 March 2010 Posted 27 March 2010 Why would there be any more trouble from the kop being next to the away fans than there is from L block being next to them? Greater numbers of people increases the likelyhood of trouble
lovelcfc Posted 27 March 2010 Author Posted 27 March 2010 Greater numbers of people increases the likelyhood of trouble thats true
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