Fans supporting each other 'too political' say Leicester

[samjohnson]

I would like to state expressly that I support the throwing of confetti.

That'll be banned soon... Someone might get a papercut, or someone might complain that it is blocking their view of the back of Matt Oakleys head

[Prospero]

why should we make it known to our 'followers' ? they are completely separate from the Fosse Boys and are entitled to their opinion

and i was calling unreachable boring because he is just that, he never just gives up even though he has been proven wrong on numerous occasions by many many posters

You defend your cause well (and promptly!) Good luck to you. As long as none of your 'followers' support the throwing of confetti.

[Alexikokopops]

While I side with the Fosse Boys on this account, I'm still not sure why unreachable and m00nie (and others) have received quite so much flack.

[Zingari]

While I side with the Fosse Boys on this account, I'm still not sure why unreachable and m00nie (and others) have received quite so much flack.

pack mentality , it happens quite a lot on here if anyone has a viewpoint that differs from the mainstream ,

have you really never noticed it before ?

[Alexikokopops]

pack mentality , it happens quite a lot on here if anyone has a viewpoint that differs from the mainstream ,

have you really never noticed it before ?

It just seems to be happening a bit more in this thread from people I wouldn't expect it from.

[LCFC-ARAB]

Maybe they just all agree on this matter

[Alexikokopops]

Maybe they just all agree on this matter

My point isn't that there's lots of people thinking the same, more that the way some people have gone about it. It's almost like a personal attack on anyone who disagrees.

[Houdini Logic]

Meh

[LCFC-ARAB]

My point isn't that there's lots of people thinking the same, more that the way some people have gone about it. It's almost like a personal attack on anyone who disagrees.

I have just been reading back on the thread and didnt find any personal attacks

apart from someone saying unreachable was kevin barclay and me calling him boring

alot of people have replied to both of them, your self included. it might come across as ganging up on them, but i just think its because a lot of people disagree with them and want to put their views across

i think people must get annoyed when so many people understand what has happened when there are 2 people who either completly ignore what others are saying to them or just want to keep going on and on about the matter

if m00nie or unreachable (if they are different people) didnt post in this thread it would be on page 2 or 3 by now!

[LCFC-ARAB]

In banner related news...

Section 6, the ultra group at Ipswich, got told to remove a banner at QPR away last season which said 'KILL $KY SPORTS NOT OUR GAME' because it had the word kill in it

so it isn't just leicester!

[Alexikokopops]

I have just been reading back on the thread and didnt find any personal attacks

apart from someone saying unreachable was kevin barclay and me calling him boring

alot of people have replied to both of them, your self included. it might come across as ganging up on them, but i just think its because a lot of people disagree with them and want to put their views across

i think people must get annoyed when so many people understand what has happened when there are 2 people who either completly ignore what others are saying to them or just want to keep going on and on about the matter

if m00nie or unreachable (if they are different people) didnt post in this thread it would be on page 2 or 3 by now!

Maybe person attack was the wrong word. It all just seems so aggressive. I'm a lover, not a fighter

[Prospero]

This thread and those related to it raise the issue of the right to freedom of expression, which is the very issue with which the Fosse Boys are concerned in wanting to put forward their views on standing. That is why it is now on page 6. The issue has, in part, become personalised around one club employee, which I think is unfortunate, whilst I recognise that there will always be humorous banter on football forums, even when the subject is, as I have been told, a serious one. Anyone can read what is written online and it remains forever.

I came across a phrase – ‘facetious parody’ - that describes some of this banter. I found it in a report about a Doncaster man’s appeal against his criminal conviction for something he said online. Annoyed that he could not fly out because of snow to meet his girlfriend, he tweeted ‘Robin Hood Airport is closed. You've got a week... otherwise I'm blowing the airport sky high!’; he was arrested, charged and fined (£385 plus £600 costs). His appeal hinges on whether the tweet was ‘facetious parody’, which is allowed, or ‘a menacing electronic communication’, which is not. Boring I know.

[LCFC-ARAB]

This thread and those related to it raise the issue of the right to freedom of expression, which is the very issue with which the Fosse Boys are concerned in wanting to put forward their views on standing. That is why it is now on page 6. The issue has, in part, become personalised around one club employee, which I think is unfortunate, whilst I recognise that there will always be humorous banter on football forums, even when the subject is, as I have been told, a serious one. Anyone can read what is written online and it remains forever.

I came across a phrase – ‘facetious parody’ - that describes some of this banter. I found it in a report about a Doncaster man’s appeal against his criminal conviction for something he said online. Annoyed that he could not fly out because of snow to meet his girlfriend, he tweeted ‘Robin Hood Airport is closed. You've got a week... otherwise I'm blowing the airport sky high!’; he was arrested, charged and fined (£385 plus £600 costs). His appeal hinges on whether the tweet was ‘facetious parody’, which is allowed, or ‘a menacing electronic communication’, which is not. Boring I know.

nobody has said they want to blow Barclay up though!

and the reason why Kevin Barclay has been targeted is because he is the reason why stewards ask us to sit

the head of operation at Man City publicly said that he will not be telling fans to sit down because it is a stupid rule, and nothing as happened to him, manchester city or any fans

Barclay could easily ignore us, and maybe try and do something productive like try and stamp racism out of the stadium, which i have heard on numerous occasions

but he ha smade it his personal duty to make life hard for the Fosse Boys, when all we want to do is jump around and wave some flags

[dave the caveman]

Fed up of having to explain everything over the internet to people who are happy to type ill-informed crap behind the safety of a keyboard.

Implying that by airing these opinions out in the open we will be met by danger? It seems that you are you suggesting that if I meet you in the pub before the game and try to discuss this with you I may end up on the wrong end of a physical attack.

Fantastic image you're putting across there.

Anyway, I give up too. If you can't see how attacking your own club is a bad thing then there's not much point continuing this discussion.

[LCFC-ARAB]

Implying that by airing these opinions out in the open we will be met by danger? It seems that you are you suggesting that if I meet you in the pub before the game and try to discuss this with you I may end up on the wrong end of a physical attack.

Fantastic image you're putting across there.

Anyway, I give up too. If you can't see how attacking your own club is a bad thing then there's not much point continuing this discussion.

well for one we didnt attack our own club, you have been told that

and another thing, Fosse boy attacking you lol lol

[Fosse Boy]

Implying that by airing these opinions out in the open we will be met by danger? It seems that you are you suggesting that if I meet you in the pub before the game and try to discuss this with you I may end up on the wrong end of a physical attack.

Fantastic image you're putting across there.

Anyway, I give up too. If you can't see how attacking your own club is a bad thing then there's not much point continuing this discussion.

No, the point I was making is that folks like yourself will gob off on the net all day but wouldn't be willing to debate any of your ill-informed points personally. I'm a friendly enough bloke, you evidently have issues with the way you feel Fosse Boys conduct themselves, why not discuss them with us? Instead you'll happily anonymously bitch and peddle the same tired line when all evidence points to the fact that the contrary opinion to yours is in fact the correct one.

well for one we didnt attack our own club, you have been told that

and another thing, Fosse boy attacking you lol lol

I'm well 'ard me.

[MPH]

My point isn't that there's lots of people thinking the same, more that the way some people have gone about it. It's almost like a personal attack on anyone who disagrees.

Unreachable has made more than one or two posts on this subject in more than just this thread. He has made a name for himself and , if you read some of his posts. In the other thread, his logic is quite bizarre. He's becoming the new Thracian in his dogmatic stance that has gone on to be more than just an opinion. People who close their minds and argue just for the sake of it usually do become targets although you'll probably have to read the other main thread to see what I mean on that..

[unreachable]

No, the point I was making is that folks like yourself will gob off on the net all day but wouldn't be willing to debate any of your ill-informed points personally. I'm a friendly enough bloke, you evidently have issues with the way you feel Fosse Boys conduct themselves, why not discuss them with us? Instead you'll happily anonymously bitch and peddle the same tired line when all evidence points to the fact that the contrary opinion to yours is in fact the correct one.

I'm well 'ard me.

It is a pity that you dont possess the intellectual skills to argue issues in print and resort to having to invite people to talk to you directly. I would not wish to enter the lions den at The Counting House and then run the risk of having my photograph taken and posted online.

It is pointless having a discussion with someone who entertains the concept of a correct opinion and elsewhere extols the virtues of freedom of speech/expression. Your views in this respect would sit very happily in a totalitarian state.

You have not commented upon the FSF post by Amanda Jacks since you clearly dont like any suggestion that your tactics may be misconceived particularly since you have built up the reputation of the FSF as an excellent organisation.

The personalisation of issues against Kevin Barclay is an extraordinary tactic when you need the cooperation of the club to achieve your objectives. If Mr Barclay did not have the support of the club and its hierarchy including Mr Hoos he would not be in his job. No-one has authoritatively proved that Mr Barclay is not carrying out his job in accordance with directions from the clubs hierarchy it would be very surprising if he wasnt. What do you expect him to do resign? He could then be replaced by someone who would carry out the job in exactly the same way.

[AndyBrew]

for crying out loud

[Poakey]

It is a pity that you don’t possess the intellectual skills to argue issues in print and resort to having to invite people to talk to you directly. I would not wish to enter the lions’ den at “The Counting House” and then run the risk of having my photograph taken and posted online.

It is pointless having a discussion with someone who entertains the concept of a “correct opinion” and elsewhere extols the virtues of freedom of speech/expression. Your views in this respect would sit very happily in a totalitarian state.

You have not commented upon the FSF post by Amanda Jacks since you clearly don’t like any suggestion that your tactics may be misconceived particularly since you have built up the reputation of the FSF as an excellent organisation.

The personalisation of issues against Kevin Barclay is an extraordinary tactic when you need the cooperation of the club to achieve your objectives. If Mr Barclay did not have the support of the club and its hierarchy including Mr Hoos he would not be in his job. No-one has authoritatively proved that Mr Barclay is not carrying out his job in accordance with directions from the club’s hierarchy – it would be very surprising if he wasn’t. What do you expect him to do – resign? He could then be replaced by someone who would carry out the job in exactly the same way.

It really isnt that much of a sinister orginisation mate, what you see in the stadium is what they are, pop over next game, you might have fun.

[Guest Bilo]

Could people stop responding to Unreachable please?

It means I have to read his ludicrous and close-minded views which rather negates the point of my adding him to my ignore list.

Ironic that he criticises Fosse Boy's intellectual capabilities when he has so spectacularly failed to take any of the group's arguments on board however.

[m00nie]

way too many posts to try and go through and reply so im just going to summarise my view before i bow out as obviously we all have different views..

you feel mr barclay was ott and silly in his decision to get to remove the banner.

i feel the reactions to this was just as silly and ott imo.. regardless of who made the threads there's still now 3 threads where as people are taking the piss out of barclay n hoos etc.. and to me this does the relation with the club and the fb group no good and will only add to future situations..

as pointed out by one of your guys this action was also carried out at another club so its not just mr barclay. (but people doing there jobs..) (think of traffic wardens, one of the most hated professions yet there only doing there jobs)

As i say, as a neutral this is how things have come across to me. i for one want the atmosphere in the ground to improve especially as being a tight git lately i blag extra cheap tickets in the family stand with my sons and so the noise is waaaaaaaay to quiet and so wouldnt want things that seem trivial (to me) to hinder your cause....

i understand that some of you see it as a bigger deal so im going to bow out and respect your thoughts on the matter also...

il agreee to disagree on this one...

[1964FOX]

I would like to state expressly that I support the throwing of confetti.

Let me know where you are and I'll make sure you get a big handful for the next match.

[MPH]

Unreachable has made more than one or two posts on this subject in more than just this thread. He has made a name for himself and , if you read some of his posts. In the other thread, his logic is quite bizarre. He's becoming the new Thracian in his dogmatic stance that has gone on to be more than just an opinion. People who close their minds and argue just for the sake of it usually do become targets although you'll probably have to read the other main thread to see what I mean on that..

It is a pity that you don’t possess the intellectual skills to argue issues in print and resort to having to invite people to talk to you directly. I would not wish to enter the lions’ den at “The Counting House” and then run the risk of having my photograph taken and posted online.

It is pointless having a discussion with someone who entertains the concept of a “correct opinion” and elsewhere extols the virtues of freedom of speech/expression. Your views in this respect would sit very happily in a totalitarian state.

You have not commented upon the FSF post by Amanda Jacks since you clearly don’t like any suggestion that your tactics may be misconceived particularly since you have built up the reputation of the FSF as an excellent organisation.

The personalisation of issues against Kevin Barclay is an extraordinary tactic when you need the cooperation of the club to achieve your objectives. If Mr Barclay did not have the support of the club and its hierarchy including Mr Hoos he would not be in his job. No-one has authoritatively proved that Mr Barclay is not carrying out his job in accordance with directions from the club’s hierarchy – it would be very surprising if he wasn’t. What do you expect him to do – resign? He could then be replaced by someone who would carry out the job in exactly the same way.

i rest my case.

[lcfc_jme]

I said it wayyyy before the Fosse Boys started up and I'm still saying it now: Barclay is a fvcking moron of the highest order. There's a reason he's basically the most hated man behind the scenes at LCFC, and it's not because he's "just doing his job".

"Oh look, another member of the Fosse Boys has piped up and launched a personal attack on a club official" - bullshit. You can fvck that idea right off because I attend 1 home game per season, if that. Mainly because of the treatment I've received there from Kevin Cvntface in the past.