The Doctor Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 Not just directed at this poster, but the whole **** thing with S****horpe is a bit childish really. Unless there is an actual reason why one can't use the name "S****horpe"? what 4 letters have been censored? And in what order are those letters?
stripeyfox Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 what 4 letters have been censored? And in what order are those letters? Oh now, I see. It's actually the site that censors it! I thought people were actually typing the stars in a sort of "ooh look its a rude word" attempt at humour. Which is probably even worse.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 Yeah it's stupid they made you take the banner down... But it isn't going to help your case against the club getting articles published around the internet, which portray the club in a negative manner.
davieG Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 Yeah it's stupid they made you take the banner down... But it isn't going to help your case against the club getting articles published around the internet, which portray the club in a negative manner. It worked last time Besides it's the club itself that's creating the negative image by being negative and knee jerking.
Rocket-Ron Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 http://www.fsf.org.uk/uploaded/news/204x147/Keep%20S****horpe%20Standing.jpg Perhaps they only asked you to take it down because you had the "Scunthorpe" and the "keep" the wrong way round!! Ahh Sod it
Guest Bilo Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 The thing is that some posters seem to think that we're deliberately courting publicity, which isn't the case. If the club had just allowed us to display the banner, there would have been no problem and in all probability, much less publicity. We wanted to show solidarity with the Scunny fans in the stadium and get our message across that way. Now, this 'overly political' message is in media outlets that it needn't have made with a healthy dollop of well-earned negative publicity for the powers-that-be at the club yet again. One day, they'll probably learn.
davieG Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 Fan's are pushing back the frontiers of political interference and bureaucratic overload and long may it continue. I'm sick of being treated like a second class citizen just because some right wing activists infiltrated and corrupted some impressionable football fans 30 years ago. I lived through that I did not participate in it I do not expect to be punished for i at least not 30 years down the line. Sure there is still the occasional throwback but there is violence in every walk of life I do not expect to be singled out because I choose to attend football matches it doesn't warrant the police state activity we now have to put up with 'no standing' under the guise of H&S, over zealous policing, body searching, police helicopters, mounted police, excessive police presence at the most inconsequential and frankly friendly atmospheric matches it's plainly way over the top. When it reaches the level of stopping a few fans making a statement by way of a banner about their fellow fans erosion of freedom, especially when that involves a cost they cannot afford and when the football authorities are happy to govern over a grossly inequitable structure then it's time to say no more.
AndyBrew Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 Fan's are pushing back the frontiers of political interference and bureaucratic overload and long may it continue. I'm sick of being treated like a second class citizen just because some right wing activists infiltrated and corrupted some impressionable football fans 30 years ago. I lived through that I did not participate in it I do not expect to be punished for i at least not 30 years down the line. Sure there is still the occasional throwback but there is violence in every walk of life I do not expect to be singled out because I choose to attend football matches it doesn't warrant the police state activity we now have to put up with 'no standing' under the guise of H&S, over zealous policing, body searching, police helicopters, mounted police, excessive police presence at the most inconsequential and frankly friendly atmospheric matches it's plainly way over the top. When it reaches the level of stopping a few fans making a statement by way of a banner about their fellow fans erosion of freedom, especially when that involves a cost they cannot afford and when the football authorities are happy to govern over a grossly inequitable structure then it's time to say no more. exactly
MPH Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 Fan's are pushing back the frontiers of political interference and bureaucratic overload and long may it continue. I'm sick of being treated like a second class citizen just because some right wing activists infiltrated and corrupted some impressionable football fans 30 years ago. I lived through that I did not participate in it I do not expect to be punished for i at least not 30 years down the line. Sure there is still the occasional throwback but there is violence in every walk of life I do not expect to be singled out because I choose to attend football matches it doesn't warrant the police state activity we now have to put up with 'no standing' under the guise of H&S, over zealous policing, body searching, police helicopters, mounted police, excessive police presence at the most inconsequential and frankly friendly atmospheric matches it's plainly way over the top. When it reaches the level of stopping a few fans making a statement by way of a banner about their fellow fans erosion of freedom, especially when that involves a cost they cannot afford and when the football authorities are happy to govern over a grossly inequitable structure then it's time to say no more. PREACH IT BROTHER G, PREACH IT!!!!!!!
The FSF Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 Hello all, Amanda Jacks from the FSF here, ready and willing to take comments about our organisation personally.... An interesting dabate, with some fascinating comments, if i may say so and frankly if nothing else, then good that this discussion has been generated. I can see the point of view that the Fosee Boys should tread carefully in view of their relationship with the club. It makes sense if they want to continue and swell their membership. However, it ignores that in this country we have a basic and fundemental right to free speach which they exercised on Saturday. The FBs didn't come to us about this, we read it about it and went to them and had a discussion about whether or not we should publicise it. If they hadn't wanted us to, we'd of respected their wishes. Overall, we are after all the Football Supporters Federation and this is, or at least I like to think it is, a subject that would interest football supporters regardless of who they support. Not the banner and it's content but that they were made to take it down. The FBs are not the first to have their right to expression curtailed inside a football stadium and sadly they won't be the last. Our view is that this curtailment is fundementally wrong and perhaps the more important point here and the real issue that should be under discussion. There is an awful lot wrong in football and my personal view is that if there was far more unity among supporters rather than the not my club, don't give a monkies attitude that is prevailent, perhaps we wouldn't be facing the number of issues - from kick off times to suit tv, to ticket prices, to policing and stewarding, to club ownership - that we do today. The Keep S****horpe Standing banner gesture was one of rare and impressive solidarity - sometimes things are just far more important that what happens at your club. Yes, I accept that standing is a contentious issue but that debate isn't the one at stake here. And to the person who suggested Leicester could be facing huge fines if fans stand, a football club has yet to be fined for allowing their supporters to stand and to the best of my knoweldge, no authority has it in their gift to issue financial penalties. Amanda
macfox Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 Fan's are pushing back the frontiers of political interference and bureaucratic overload and long may it continue. I'm sick of being treated like a second class citizen just because some right wing activists infiltrated and corrupted some impressionable football fans 30 years ago. I lived through that I did not participate in it I do not expect to be punished for i at least not 30 years down the line. Sure there is still the occasional throwback but there is violence in every walk of life I do not expect to be singled out because I choose to attend football matches it doesn't warrant the police state activity we now have to put up with 'no standing' under the guise of H&S, over zealous policing, body searching, police helicopters, mounted police, excessive police presence at the most inconsequential and frankly friendly atmospheric matches it's plainly way over the top. When it reaches the level of stopping a few fans making a statement by way of a banner about their fellow fans erosion of freedom, especially when that involves a cost they cannot afford and when the football authorities are happy to govern over a grossly inequitable structure then it's time to say no more. Love it Hello all, Amanda Jacks from the FSF here, ready and willing to take comments about our organisation personally.... An interesting dabate, with some fascinating comments, if i may say so and frankly if nothing else, then good that this discussion has been generated. I can see the point of view that the Fosee Boys should tread carefully in view of their relationship with the club. It makes sense if they want to continue and swell their membership. However, it ignores that in this country we have a basic and fundemental right to free speach which they exercised on Saturday. The FBs didn't come to us about this, we read it about it and went to them and had a discussion about whether or not we should publicise it. If they hadn't wanted us to, we'd of respected their wishes. Overall, we are after all the Football Supporters Federation and this is, or at least I like to think it is, a subject that would interest football supporters regardless of who they support. Not the banner and it's content but that they were made to take it down. The FBs are not the first to have their right to expression curtailed inside a football stadium and sadly they won't be the last. Our view is that this curtailment is fundementally wrong and perhaps the more important point here and the real issue that should be under discussion. There is an awful lot wrong in football and my personal view is that if there was far more unity among supporters rather than the not my club, don't give a monkies attitude that is prevailent, perhaps we wouldn't be facing the number of issues - from kick off times to suit tv, to ticket prices, to policing and stewarding, to club ownership - that we do today. The Keep S****horpe Standing banner gesture was one of rare and impressive solidarity - sometimes things are just far more important that what happens at your club. Yes, I accept that standing is a contentious issue but that debate isn't the one at stake here. And to the person who suggested Leicester could be facing huge fines if fans stand, a football club has yet to be fined for allowing their supporters to stand and to the best of my knoweldge, no authority has it in their gift to issue financial penalties. Amanda oooh I'm hanging about for the reaction to this one
unreachable Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 Did someone mention "Freedom of Speech"? http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2010/05/12/freedom-of-speech-at-walsall/ FSF monitored the situation at Walsall and could advise on a suitable banner for the Hull City home game?
ozleicester Posted 7 October 2010 Posted 7 October 2010 PREACH IT BROTHER G, PREACH IT!!!!!!! BROTHER GEE LOVE.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nPvqZG8mLM
dave the caveman Posted 7 October 2010 Posted 7 October 2010 Ah, now i see. There was me thinking the fundamental idea behind the Fosse boys was to improve the atmosphere at the walkers on matchdays. Now I see they are more like a group of unhinged moral crusaders concerned with such humanity and culturally defining issues as free speech. That's great! But what on earth does it have to do with football? What's next on the agenda, boys? A banner promoting the use of abortion? Organising a free tibet protest? Supporting gay rights with a group bum just inside the turnstiles? To be brutally honest the FB are coming across, to me at least, in the same vein as other causeless rebels like the BNP, or the EDL, or whatever their latest reincarnation is. All problems, no solutions. I fully support, admire and encourage the FBs aim to increase the atmosphere at the Walkers but my support does not extend beyond that, and it certainly does not extend to issues unrelated to improving the atmosphere that you in turn use to cause an arguement with the club which is played out in the media. To be honest, if Kevin Barclay did indeed say you were being 'too political' then i would suggest that he was correct. If you boys know what is good for you you will stick to what you were set up for and what you are good at and if you must attempt to change the world, leave LCFC out of it.
LCFC-ARAB Posted 7 October 2010 Posted 7 October 2010 Ah, now i see. There was me thinking the fundamental idea behind the Fosse boys was to improve the atmosphere at the walkers on matchdays. Now I see they are more like a group of unhinged moral crusaders concerned with such humanity and culturally defining issues as free speech. That's great! But what on earth does it have to do with football? What's next on the agenda, boys? A banner promoting the use of abortion? Organising a free tibet protest? Supporting gay rights with a group bum just inside the turnstiles? To be brutally honest the FB are coming across, to me at least, in the same vein as other causeless rebels like the BNP, or the EDL, or whatever their latest reincarnation is. All problems, no solutions. I fully support, admire and encourage the FBs aim to increase the atmosphere at the Walkers but my support does not extend beyond that, and it certainly does not extend to issues unrelated to improving the atmosphere that you in turn use to cause an arguement with the club which is played out in the media. To be honest, if Kevin Barclay did indeed say you were being 'too political' then i would suggest that he was correct. If you boys know what is good for you you will stick to what you were set up for and what you are good at and if you must attempt to change the world, leave LCFC out of it. what on earth does it have to do with football? you do realise what the banner we held up said yeah? and comparing us to the BNP?? what the hell you must be a caveman to come to that conclusion you idiot
Poakey Posted 7 October 2010 Posted 7 October 2010 Ah, now i see. There was me thinking the fundamental idea behind the Fosse boys was to improve the atmosphere at the walkers on matchdays. Now I see they are more like a group of unhinged moral crusaders concerned with such humanity and culturally defining issues as free speech. That's great! But what on earth does it have to do with football? What's next on the agenda, boys? A banner promoting the use of abortion? Organising a free tibet protest? Supporting gay rights with a group bum just inside the turnstiles? To be brutally honest the FB are coming across, to me at least, in the same vein as other causeless rebels like the BNP, or the EDL, or whatever their latest reincarnation is. All problems, no solutions. I fully support, admire and encourage the FBs aim to increase the atmosphere at the Walkers but my support does not extend beyond that, and it certainly does not extend to issues unrelated to improving the atmosphere that you in turn use to cause an arguement with the club which is played out in the media. To be honest, if Kevin Barclay did indeed say you were being 'too political' then i would suggest that he was correct. If you boys know what is good for you you will stick to what you were set up for and what you are good at and if you must attempt to change the world, leave LCFC out of it. Thats a coincidence, I'm working on a gay rights banner right now for the Hull game!
Guest Bilo Posted 7 October 2010 Posted 7 October 2010 Thats a coincidence, I'm working on a gay rights banner right now for the Hull game! Do you want my pink paint comrade? xx
rabbid Posted 7 October 2010 Posted 7 October 2010 Ah, now i see. There was me thinking the fundamental idea behind the Fosse boys was to improve the atmosphere at the walkers on matchdays. Now I see they are more like a group of unhinged moral crusaders concerned with such humanity and culturally defining issues as free speech. That's great! But what on earth does it have to do with football? What's next on the agenda, boys? A banner promoting the use of abortion? Organising a free tibet protest? Supporting gay rights with a group bum just inside the turnstiles? To be brutally honest the FB are coming across, to me at least, in the same vein as other causeless rebels like the BNP, or the EDL, or whatever their latest reincarnation is. All problems, no solutions. I fully support, admire and encourage the FBs aim to increase the atmosphere at the Walkers but my support does not extend beyond that, and it certainly does not extend to issues unrelated to improving the atmosphere that you in turn use to cause an arguement with the club which is played out in the media. To be honest, if Kevin Barclay did indeed say you were being 'too political' then i would suggest that he was correct. If you boys know what is good for you you will stick to what you were set up for and what you are good at and if you must attempt to change the world, leave LCFC out of it. Im betting they don't agree with that. Your aloud to anything if your one of the FB and not aloud an opinion if you dont agree with them on something. Their improving the match day atmosphere dont you know.
Alexikokopops Posted 7 October 2010 Posted 7 October 2010 Ah, now i see. There was me thinking the fundamental idea behind the Fosse boys was to improve the atmosphere at the walkers on matchdays. Now I see they are more like a group of unhinged moral crusaders concerned with such humanity and culturally defining issues as free speech. That's great! But what on earth does it have to do with football? What's next on the agenda, boys? A banner promoting the use of abortion? Organising a free tibet protest? Supporting gay rights with a group bum just inside the turnstiles? To be brutally honest the FB are coming across, to me at least, in the same vein as other causeless rebels like the BNP, or the EDL, or whatever their latest reincarnation is. All problems, no solutions. I fully support, admire and encourage the FBs aim to increase the atmosphere at the Walkers but my support does not extend beyond that, and it certainly does not extend to issues unrelated to improving the atmosphere that you in turn use to cause an arguement with the club which is played out in the media. To be honest, if Kevin Barclay did indeed say you were being 'too political' then i would suggest that he was correct. If you boys know what is good for you you will stick to what you were set up for and what you are good at and if you must attempt to change the world, leave LCFC out of it. I'd understand your point if it was a completely unrelated banner. However, given that it was a banner to support a fellow football club's attempts to keep standing areas and keep the atmosphere it generates as a result, it's not that unusual for a group of people who are trying to improve the atmosphere at their own club to support it. In the end it just makes your post look a little odd, especially when you take into account that the club told the Fosse Boys to campaign for standing areas (because it's the "fans job" and the club can't), and the beginning stages of this was to support another clubs attempts to do so. For the record, I've never been to a game as part of the Fosse Boys.
m00nie Posted 7 October 2010 Posted 7 October 2010 I'd understand your point if it was a completely unrelated banner. However, given that it was a banner to support a fellow football club's attempts to keep standing areas and keep the atmosphere it generates as a result, it's not that unusual for a group of people who are trying to improve the atmosphere at their own club to support it. In the end it just makes your post look a little odd, especially when you take into account that the club told the Fosse Boys to campaign for standing areas (because it's the "fans job" and the club can't), and the beginning stages of this was to support another clubs attempts to do so. For the record, I've never been to a game as part of the Fosse Boys. what about the actions that have followed since.. as in the banner thread and the song for barclay thread.. where it seems to have turned into a crusade to take the piss out of barclay n co.. even talks of taking daffodils to the ground due to allegations that barclay was once accused of stealing some or something..
davieG Posted 7 October 2010 Posted 7 October 2010 what about the actions that have followed since.. as in the banner thread and the song for barclay thread.. where it seems to have turned into a crusade to take the piss out of barclay n co.. even talks of taking daffodils to the ground due to allegations that barclay was once accused of stealing some or something.. People that do 'silly' things are always going to get the piss taken out of them, it's happened to me many a time on here and to plenty of others why should he be exempt
lcfc_jme Posted 7 October 2010 Posted 7 October 2010 what about the actions that have followed since.. as in the banner thread and the song for barclay thread.. where it seems to have turned into a crusade to take the piss out of barclay n co.. even talks of taking daffodils to the ground due to allegations that barclay was once accused of stealing some or something.. Two tongue-in-cheek threads that you've completely blown out of proportion with nonsensical vocabulary. "Crusade"? I mean come on, grow a pair for fvcks sake. As if most of those banners are ever likely to be allowed to be displayed considering a harmless show of support was deemed to be "too political" by the powers that be. Yes, yes it is funny to take the piss out of Kevin. Wana know why? Because he's a giant, piss-taking hypocrite himself, that's why. And as for the daffodils thing, yeah, the lads are all gona roll into the ground with a bunch of flowers each and stand there sniffing them all game. Oh, and by the way, if the boys wanted to sing any witty little songs about Kevin, they would've done by now, and I know for a fact Kevin would hate it as well. They've had the song for a long while but it never gets aired during games. Funny, that, considering their crusade and all.. Fvcking hell.
Dr The Singh Posted 7 October 2010 Posted 7 October 2010 People that do 'silly' things are always going to get the piss taken out of them, it's happened to me many a time on here and to plenty of others why should he be exempt cry baby!!!
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