Fans supporting each other 'too political' say Leicester

[davieG]

cry baby!!!

You've noticed.

[LCFC-ARAB]

what about the actions that have followed since.. as in the banner thread and the song for barclay thread..

where it seems to have turned into a crusade to take the piss out of barclay n co..

even talks of taking daffodils to the ground due to allegations that barclay was once accused of stealing some or something..

The Fosse Boys didn't start either of those threads

[Alexikokopops]

what about the actions that have followed since.. as in the banner thread and the song for barclay thread..

where it seems to have turned into a crusade to take the piss out of barclay n co..

even talks of taking daffodils to the ground due to allegations that barclay was once accused of stealing some or something..

The thread that were started by a fellow London fox who's not a member of the Fosse Boys, or the thread with the subtitle "just for a laugh" started by davieG, who has stated numerous time that he feels he's too old (sorry davieG!) for the Fosse Boys?

[Raj]

Two tongue-in-cheek threads that you've completely blown out of proportion with nonsensical vocabulary. "Crusade"? I mean come on, grow a pair for fvcks sake. As if most of those banners are ever likely to be allowed to be displayed considering a harmless show of support was deemed to be "too political" by the powers that be.

Yes, yes it is funny to take the piss out of Kevin. Wana know why? Because he's a giant, piss-taking hypocrite himself, that's why.

And as for the daffodils thing, yeah, the lads are all gona roll into the ground with a bunch of flowers each and[ stand ]there sniffing them all game.

Oh, and by the way, if the boys wanted to sing any witty little songs about Kevin, they would've done by now, and I know for a fact Kevin would hate it as well. They've had the song for a long while but it never gets aired during games. Funny, that, considering their crusade and all..

Fvcking hell.

NO STANDING ALLOWED!!

You must adhere to modern football.

Sit down,drink your fcuking coffee.

Eat your hot dog(All purchased at the Club at very reasonable prices.

Read your match day programme at Halftime ( you CAN stand for this!).

Check to see you have won the half time lottery(Which ACTUALLY DOES go to a decent cause_academy)

Then carry on watching the game IN SILENCE....only applaud if we score....

[Zingari]

NO STANDING ALLOWED!!

You must adhere to modern football.

Sit down,drink your fcuking coffee.

Eat your hot dog(All purchased at the Club at very reasonable prices.

Read your match day programme at Halftime ( you CAN stand for this!).

Check to see you have won the half time lottery(Which ACTUALLY DOES go to a decent cause_academy)

Then carry on watching the game IN SILENCE....only applaud if we score....

don't take the missus to the match with you then ,if she's that bad

[davieG]

The thread that were started by a fellow London fox who's not a member of the Fosse Boys, or the thread with the subtitle "just for a laugh" started by davieG, who has stated numerous time that he feels he's too old (sorry davieG!) for the Fosse Boys?

Thanks and the thread I started about banners I never suggested they were about Barclay or any other subject, I gave 4 examples from Bentleys of which 1 was Forest/Tories, 1 was anti-Tories, 1 was anti any party as it was fuel prices and none of them have made any serious attempt to control them and 1 was a dig at Barclay's which could be interpreted as anti-Barclay if your so inclined but it could also be perceived as anti-Banks, political yes but excessively anti-Barclay no! Then there was my little jape at Hoos.

It was down to individuals how they viewed it if they chose to pick up on the Barclay/political banner issue that was their choice.Out of 47 replies only 3 mention Barclay by name.

Hardly a crusade.

[Fosse Boy]

Ah, now i see. There was me thinking the fundamental idea behind the Fosse boys was to improve the atmosphere at the walkers on matchdays. Now I see they are more like a group of unhinged moral crusaders concerned with such humanity and culturally defining issues as free speech. That's great! But what on earth does it have to do with football? What's next on the agenda, boys? A banner promoting the use of abortion? Organising a free tibet protest? Supporting gay rights with a group bum just inside the turnstiles?

To be brutally honest the FB are coming across, to me at least, in the same vein as other causeless rebels like the BNP, or the EDL, or whatever their latest reincarnation is. All problems, no solutions.

I fully support, admire and encourage the FBs aim to increase the atmosphere at the Walkers but my support does not extend beyond that, and it certainly does not extend to issues unrelated to improving the atmosphere that you in turn use to cause an arguement with the club which is played out in the media. To be honest, if Kevin Barclay did indeed say you were being 'too political' then i would suggest that he was correct. If you boys know what is good for you you will stick to what you were set up for and what you are good at and if you must attempt to change the world, leave LCFC out of it.

I don't know why I bother posting sometimes. You've evidently come to your own prejudiced conclusions about the group without reading anything I've posted in this thread. If you'd genuinely like to discuss any of the assertions you've made here, I'm in The Counting House before home games. Come and find me, I'll be the moral crusader in the corner who doesn't understand that the club knows what's best for him.

Im betting they don't agree with that. Your aloud to anything if your one of the FB and not aloud an opinion if you dont agree with them on something. Their improving the match day atmosphere dont you know.

Same goes. Fed up of having to explain everything over the internet to people who are happy to type ill-informed crap behind the safety of a keyboard.

[Raj]

I don't know why I bother posting sometimes. You've evidently come to your own prejudiced conclusions about the group without reading anything I've posted in this thread. If you'd genuinely like to discuss any of the assertions you've made here, I'm in The Counting House before home games. Come and find me, I'll be the moral crusader in the corner who doesn't understand that the club knows what's best for him.

Same goes. Fed up of having to explain everything over the internet to people who are happy to type ill-informed crap behind the safety of a keyboard.

So let me get this right...You are a group of knuckle heads who support the BNP and sing songs about Never surrendering to the IRA?....And you carry daffodils too??

Thought so.....

[Fosse Boy]

So let me get this right...You are a group of knuckle heads who support the BNP and sing songs about Never surrendering to the IRA?....And you carry daffodils too??

Thought so.....

We've been rumbled. Oh well, we had a good run...

[Guest Bilo]

We're far-right Marxist politicos with daffodils in our buttonholes and absolutely will not drink with anyone who happens to be different to us.

So bollocks to all of you non-Fosse Boys. I'm off to knife a pensioner and desecrate a church.

[1964FOX]

We're far-right Marxist politicos with daffodils in our buttonholes and absolutely will not drink with anyone who happens to be different to us.

So bollocks to all of you non-Fosse Boys. I'm off to knife a pensioner and desecrate a church.

Bilo can I remind you that rule five of the Fosse Boy directive says you have to get pissed before you can knife a pensioner and sacrifice a goat before you desecrate a church.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

I can see both sides of the argument. No further comment.

[MPH]

I don't know why I bother posting sometimes. You've evidently come to your own prejudiced conclusions about the group without reading anything I've posted in this thread. If you'd genuinely like to discuss any of the assertions you've made here, I'm in The Counting House before home games. Come and find me, I'll be the moral crusader in the corner who doesn't understand that the club knows what's best for him.

Same goes. Fed up of having to explain everything over the internet to people who are happy to type ill-informed crap behind the safety of a keyboard.

Dont' take anything personally.

the simple fact is that 99% of fans know and agree on somthing - the Fosse Boys are genuine city fans.

I wish i was a Mod... you could probably trace half of these idiots to the Same IP address and some of them at least can be traced back to the club.

[Webbo]

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I wish i was a Mod... .

Get in line pal.

[LCFC-ARAB]

Dont' take anything personally.

the simple fact is that 99% of fans know and agree on somthing - the Fosse Boys are genuine city fans.

I wish i was a Mod... you could probably trace half of these idiots to the Same IP address and some of them at least can be traced back to the club.

Have you read talkingballs?!?

they hate us!! I don't even know what we have done to upset them so much!

[Fosse Boy]

Article I've found on Bentley's...

Those of you who might be tired of Leicester City Football Club and its seemingly ongoing battle against its own supporters, might like to take heart. If recent events are to be taken on face value, it could be said that the club is trying to change its ways and become almost motherly in its gentle handling of us all.

You see apparently, it’s a big, bad world out there. A world chock-full of naughty, controversial issues and murky, dirty politics. But if any of that ever leaves you feeling insecure, be not afraid, for those ever-alert folks at LCFC are going to ensure that none of that nasty ‘political stuff’ will ever tarnish the club or any of its supporters.

That’s nice of them, isn’t it? But, “How, pray tell?” I hear you ask.

Perhaps if they want to rid the stadium of politics in the future, will they forbid Mr Vaz from being part of the half-time entertainment, and thereby, in effect, desist in bringing politics right, slap-bang onto the pitch for all of us to endure? Good question, and it sounds like a logical idea, but I don’t think that that fits in with how LCFC do things. Mr Vaz isn’t one of the oiks you know.

Okay then, will they be informing Mr Vaz that he is to cease with his very public statements affirming that he supports LCFC, and some might say, perhaps thereby using the club to promote his own political profile? No, they couldn’t do that. He has a right to free speech, doesn’t he?

Well then, will they be doing an Arsenal with the banning of all national flags for fear of creating politically fuelled incidents within the stadium? Ye gads no! Not yet at least, but in time……..

What then? Will they be ditching the traditional blue colour of the team, lest the club be seen to be “too pro-Royalist”, or perhaps “too pro-Tory” in its outlook?

Now come on, surely nobody could be that bloody pedantic, could they? Could they? Well actually……

Yes, somebody could. For it seems that if a someone holds a harmless banner that highlights the earth-shattering issue of ‘S****horpe and its standing area’, then that person will be told to conceal it or get kicked out. Why? Because such an act has been deemed to be “too political.”

“Too political”

Think about that. In a world of constant conflict, war, scandal, crisis and POLITICAL CORRUPTION, the real ‘hot potato’ that no one dare handle is the issue of S****horpe and its standing area.

Well I am sorry LCFC, but all of that is a load of unmitigated bollocks. Such a statement by representatives of LCFC is not just an overreaction; it is an interfering, overbearing statement of such mindless triviality, to make it almost epic. An act of such immense stupidity, to leave one with but three choices: to ignore it right-out, lampoon it or reject it.

Let us proceed with the latter.

1. As Mr Vaz’s attendance proves, LCFC does attach itself to the world of politics as and when it feels like it. It then, in my eyes, forces this world upon its own supporters. Hypocritical? I’d say.

2. Overreacting slightly, I put it to you, the person who is responsible for the message given to the supporters holding the banner. I put it to you that it is not they who were being too political, but you! You, who by your words and your actions, did damage to the very core of all that makes western democracy worth something: our ability to express ourselves. Shame on you for that.

3. I also ask of LCFC a question. You say that the act was “too political”. This surely suggests that there is a level of political activity from the supporters that is acceptable. If so, I’m buggered if I can work out what it might be. Can anybody at LCFC clarify?

And finally 4…

This is madness, is it not? All of it. Which then begs another question: who on earth could be responsible for reacting to a harmless banner in such a ludicrous way? I don’t know, but I feel that I do know the type.

How do you know when you are dealing with a tin-pot, little Hitler whose gone doo-lally with ‘power’? You can hear it in the gibberish they come out with to justify their decisions. You can sense it in their rock-solid insistence upon the rules being complied with, no matter that those rules have no relevance to a given situation. No matter that these petty autocrats break those same rules as and when the feel like it. Sound familiar?

It ought to, for this club continues to treat its supporters like crap. The real message given to those who held the banner, was not one of ‘please don’t be too political’, but the same one that we have been hearing for years now, and that message is, “Sit down, shut up and do as you are told!”

Like I said: that’s nice of them, isn’t it?

[unreachable]

I can see the point of view that the Fosee Boys should tread carefully in view of their relationship with the club. It makes sense if they want to continue and swell their membership.

The Keep S****horpe Standing banner gesture was one of rare and impressive solidarity - sometimes things are just far more important that what happens at your club.

Nobody has yet commented on this post which I have edited.

I hope the Fosse Boys reflect and do tread carefully in the future since I fear that they will not achieve their aims otherwise.

As for the FSF thinking this issue is far more important that what happens at LCFC? Who agrees with that?

[LCFC-ARAB]

Nobody has yet commented on this post which I have edited.

I hope the Fosse Boys reflect and do tread carefully in the future since I fear that they will not achieve their aims otherwise.

As for the FSF thinking this issue is far more important that what happens at LCFC? Who agrees with that?

you are so boring

[1964FOX]

you are so boring

I like him, he amuses me.

[m00nie]

I like him, he amuses me.

do i.. thanks

do i.. thanks

oops wrong account

[Prospero]

you are so boring

There are some issues that do transcend one’s own club and should unite all fans. I am thinking of anti racism for example. Much as I recognise the Fosse Boys’ right to freedom of the banner, standing in stadiums is not for me a moral issue or one to do with equality and basic human rights and it needs to be put into perspective and as this thread shows there are a number of them. Football Fans worldwide will mock the opposition. Few will mock their own club. Currently, in the UK, it is usually the capitalist excesses of the owners that draw the ire of the fans. There will always be mockery and scurrilous mockery at that in grounds and on internet forums but sometimes it is undignified. If standing is such an important national cause why reduce it to the level of personal abuse of LCFC staff and unproved allegations of personal misdemeanors? (I don’t want to get personal and I don’t know the man but, being old enough to witness the decimation of the mining industry by Margaret Thatcher, anyone who was a miner deserves our utmost respect.) There is mockery and there is mockery and it is all good fun but I detect a nasty personal edge to some of the comments here that are unworthy of the cause, if it is indeed a cause worth supporting. I know I will be called boring as well but wearing daffodils, if in fact at this time of year you can find them to wear (paper ones?) is a nice situationist gesture but will it advance your cause? Why do you want to antagonise ordinary people who do a job for the club? Our club.

[LCFC-ARAB]

There are some issues that do transcend one’s own club and should unite all fans. I am thinking of anti racism for example. Much as I recognize the Fosse Boys’ right to freedom of the banner, standing in stadiums is not for me a moral issue or one to do with equality and basic human rights and it needs to be put into perspective and as this thread shows there are a number of them. Football Fans worldwide will mock the opposition. Few will mock their own club. Currently, in the UK, it is usually the capitalist excesses of the owners that draw the ire of the fans. There will always be mockery and scurrilous mockery at that in grounds and on internet forums but sometimes it is undignified. If standing is such an important national cause why reduce it to the level of personal abuse of LCFC staff and unproved allegations of personal misdemeanors? (I don’t want to get personal and I don’t know the man but, being old enough to witness the decimation of the mining industry by Margaret Thatcher, anyone who was a miner deserves our utmost respect.) There is mockery and there is mockery and it is all good fun but I detect a nasty personal edge to some of the comments here that are unworthy of the cause, if it is indeed a cause worth supporting. I know I will be called boring as well but wearing daffodils, if in fact at this time of year you can find them to wear (paper ones?) is a nice situationist gesture but will it advance your cause? Why do you want to antagonise ordinary people who do a job for the club? Our club.

where the hell did anyone of the fosse boys say we are going to wear pissing dafodils?! we are not, we have no intention of getting personal with barclay at the walkers stadium

like others have said, we could easily make up a song and sing it about him but we dont!

the standing issue might not be a big deal to you, but it is a very big deal to me and to a lot of other people, i'd go as far to say it is probably one of the biggest issues i have following football. one that could change everything about how football is watched in this country. and i am not really sure where we reduced the national cause for standing to personal abuse either?

i think you are having a go at the wrong people

all we did was hold a banner up supporting a campaign for another team

we had planned to hold it for 10 minutes between 2:45 and 2:55 while some of us handed out confetti around SK1 but within about a minute stewards came rushing up the stairs towards us.

i think you need to read this thread again and see what actual people in the fosse boys have said

[Prospero]

nded out confetti around SK1 but within about a minute stewards came rushing up the stairs towards us.

i think you need to read this thread again and see what actual people in the fosse boys have said

I do not know who is actually a signed up member of the Fosse Boys and I am genuinely sorry if I have attributed the views of others to you and your group. I replied to you because you called another poster boring for disagreeing with you more than once. However, if YOU reread this thread and the some of the others you will find there are a number of people supporting you, whether they are members or not, who are exercising the fans' right to mockery at the expense of a club official, including at least one very well respected ‘older ‘poster. I support your views, although I myself no longer wish to stand. I did once but I am too old to do so now, although I will, as I have said before, do so at away games if I must. For what it is worth I do not oppose terraced standing areas in grounds. I sound pompous I know in saying that you need to take it one step at a time. The club overreacted to your banner at the last home match. The club will learn if you go about it in the right way. If you do not wish to insult the club or club officials you need to make this known to your followers and no I do not work for the club and never have.

[LCFC-ARAB]

I do not know who is actually a signed up member of the Fosse Boys and I am genuinely sorry if I have attributed the views of others to you and your group. I replied to you because you called another poster boring for disagreeing with you more than once. However, if YOU reread this thread and the some of the others you will find there are a number of people supporting you, whether they are members or not, who are exercising the fans' right to mockery at the expense of a club official, including at least one very well respected ‘older ‘poster. I support your views, although I myself no longer wish to stand. I did once but I am too old to do so now, although I will, as I have said before, do so at away games if I must. For what it is worth I do not oppose terraced standing areas in grounds. I sound pompous I know in saying that you need to take it one step at a time. The club overreacted to your banner at the last home match. The club will learn if you go about it in the right way. If you do not wish to insult the club or club officials you need to make this known to your followers and no I do not work for the club and never have.

why should we make it known to our 'followers' ? they are completely separate from the Fosse Boys and are entitled to their opinion

and i was calling unreachable boring because he is just that, he never just gives up even though he has been proven wrong on numerous occasions by many many posters

[unreachable]

I would like to state expressly that I support the throwing of confetti.