Dom_Harborough Fox Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 the FSF must have been notified somehow. probably from people reading the comments on here about it.. so whilst the intentions are not to bring bad publicity speaking out at decisions that you dont agree with every time is going to attract more publicity which ends in a bad name for the group. keep challenging the decisions however laughable you think it is wont help the FB group if its leaving negative press on the club all the time.. you dont want to alienate yourselfs and turn it into a them and us thing.. especially fighting for a cause that isnt even your own.. Point taken m00nie and I can assure you that we do weigh up the positives & negatives/consider the potential consequences of any display that we think about having in the ground. Having discussed the idea beforehand we were all in agreement that this was a cause worth supporting and so we did. We don't agree with the decision to tell us to take the banner down or the reasons given to us for that decision so why shouldn't we challenge it? Again, I see what you're saying, that it might be better to leave well alone and that we don't want to antagonise the very people who we are trying to work with on this. You may well be right. We don't want disputes with the club for the sake of having disputes but we are also entitled to stand our ground as a group and stick to our guns.
MPH Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 The EDL march was yesterday banned by the Home Secretary A very simple google search will give you a list of all the EDL marches that have taken place already up and down the country....
The Doctor Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 Air horns are loud? I thought you would have been ID'd because you can hit someone with the casing. surely then you should be ID'd for everything? I could go into tescos/morrisons/sainsburys/wherever and buy a book/bottle of pop/water/ box of cereal and wack someone with it
dave the caveman Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 Any official word from the club on this? I wouldn't read too much into the "too political" quote. It only "apparently" happened and the holding quote is attributed to noone in particular. Reeks of bs, if i'm honest. And begs the question: what are the fosse boys achieving? Quite aside from risking massive fines for the club with this ridiculous idea that they are somehow above h&s laws and should be allowed to stand (that is assuming they realise that LCFC do not have the power to change laws?)(or maybe they think now that we have Thai owners, Thai law applies? Who knows? It's baffling), they now seem to be intent on damaging the reputation of the club through the media. What gives? I'm just glad this has only been published on some crap blog rather than through any respectable media.
LCFC-ARAB Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 Any official word from the club on this? I wouldn't read too much into the "too political" quote. It only "apparently" happened and the holding quote is attributed to noone in particular. Reeks of bs, if i'm honest. And begs the question: what are the fosse boys achieving? Quite aside from risking massive fines for the club with this ridiculous idea that they are somehow above h&s laws and should be allowed to stand (that is assuming they realise that LCFC do not have the power to change laws?)(or maybe they think now that we have Thai owners, Thai law applies? Who knows? It's baffling), they now seem to be intent on damaging the reputation of the club through the media. What gives? I'm just glad this has only been published on some crap blog rather than through any respectable media. It didn't only 'apparently' happen. it 100% did happen. i can say right now that stewards asked us to stop holding our banner because it was deemed to political by Kevin Barclay. we are not above health and safety laws, because we aren't breaking any, we do not persistently stand, look into what the word persistent means if you wish. but the fact is the Fosse Boys are not the worst offenders of standing at the walkers and why the hell would we want to damage the reputation of our club?? we love Leicester City just as much as the next guy and that is the last thing we want you are obviously pretty clueless with regards to this whole situation and it isn't Leicester City who's reputation should be getting dented from all of this, because it;s pretty clear that there is only 1 man who wants to do everything he can to stop us we just want to support our team and have fun at the football, it shouldn't be this fucking hard to do that
AndyBrew Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 Any official word from the club on this? I wouldn't read too much into the "too political" quote. It only "apparently" happened and the holding quote is attributed to noone in particular. erm bollocks
SystonFox Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 I was ID'd in tesco's to buy plastic knifes and forks...also, i was ID'd buying an air horn - because they are loud... This made me
easilee Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 Any official word from the club on this? I wouldn't read too much into the "too political" quote. It only "apparently" happened and the holding quote is attributed to noone in particular. Reeks of bs, if i'm honest. And begs the question: what are the fosse boys achieving? Quite aside from risking massive fines for the club with this ridiculous idea that they are somehow above h&s laws and should be allowed to stand (that is assuming they realise that LCFC do not have the power to change laws?)(or maybe they think now that we have Thai owners, Thai law applies? Who knows? It's baffling), they now seem to be intent on damaging the reputation of the club through the media. What gives? I'm just glad this has only been published on some crap blog rather than through any respectable media. There are no laws. Just guidelines. And it appears that the stricter you are at adhering to them the more crappy little awards or condascending recognitions are bestowed upon the sad arse that zealously implements them. All totally unsubstantiated of course.
Fosse Boy Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 Any official word from the club on this? I wouldn't read too much into the "too political" quote. It only "apparently" happened and the holding quote is attributed to noone in particular. Reeks of bs, if i'm honest. And begs the question: what are the fosse boys achieving? Quite aside from risking massive fines for the club with this ridiculous idea that they are somehow above h&s laws and should be allowed to stand (that is assuming they realise that LCFC do not have the power to change laws?)(or maybe they think now that we have Thai owners, Thai law applies? Who knows? It's baffling), they now seem to be intent on damaging the reputation of the club through the media. What gives? I'm just glad this has only been published on some crap blog rather than through any respectable media. Was trying my best not to bite at this ill-informed nonsense but oh well... 1. It didn't only "apparently" happen. It did happen. I was there, the stewards told us themselves that they were under orders from Kevin Barclay to tell us to take it down because the banner was too political. 2. What are we achieving? Well, I think we're doing a half decent job of reinvigorating a bit of life into SK1, combining original chants with traditional songs, and generally trying to restore a bit of pride, passion and colour back into our home support. 3. We are not above the law. It is not illegal to stand in a seated area at a football ground. Many hundreds, occasionally thousands if the away end all stand, of other supporters have chosen to persistently stand (and continue to stand) at our ground before our group of 40-50 did. Besides, we don't persistently stand as sitting is choreographed into some of our songs. 4. We don't want to damage the reputation of the club at all. The club are damaging their own reputation by letting a minority of their employees target our group for such ridiculous and petty things. The FSF contacted us because they feel this story is worth being in the public domain. As tireless campaigners for supporter rights they obviously want to raise awreness if the rights of fans are being infringed. 5. It's not some "crap blog" as you so crassly put it. The FSF are a reputable organisation who have done great work for football fans up and down the land.
unreachable Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 Was trying my best not to bite at this ill-informed nonsense but oh well... 1. It didn't only "apparently" happen. It did happen. I was there, the stewards told us themselves that they were under orders from Kevin Barclay to tell us to take it down because the banner was too political. 2. What are we achieving? Well, I think we're doing a half decent job of reinvigorating a bit of life into SK1, combining original chants with traditional songs, and generally trying to restore a bit of pride, passion and colour back into our home support. 3. We are not above the law. It is not illegal to stand in a seated area at a football ground. Many hundreds, occasionally thousands if the away end all stand, of other supporters have chosen to persistently stand (and continue to stand) at our ground before our group of 40-50 did. Besides, we don't persistently stand as sitting is choreographed into some of our songs. 4. We don't want to damage the reputation of the club at all. The club are damaging their own reputation by letting a minority of their employees target our group for such ridiculous and petty things. The FSF contacted us because they feel this story is worth being in the public domain. As tireless campaigners for supporter rights they obviously want to raise awreness if the rights of fans are being infringed. 5. It's not some "crap blog" as you so crassly put it. The FSF are a reputable organisation who have done great work for football fans up and down the land. Isn't S****horpegate getting magnified out of hand? You earlier described it as "an unjustified decision of this magnitude" and now say that the right to hold a banner supporting another football club's cause is so valuable that you have to risk your own good relationship with the club, pursue a witchhunt against Kevin Barclay and Lee Hoos and, no doubt, encourage The Leicester Mercury and the national press to publish stories against Leicester. The quote saying that the whole of Leicestershire is up in arms and in your support on this issue is nonsense - the article just shows you that FSF are deluded and are using you for a headline. I can't imagine that 100% of your members support this action. Perhaps you should choose your battles a little more carefully.
Ozwin Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 Where is Kevin Barclay on matchdays anyway? Is he in his lavish match day box with a pair of binoculars pointed at you lot or is he there at the bottom in a bright orange jacket, arms folded giving you evils for 90 minutes? He sounds like a right characters anyway...
Foxes_Trust Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 We have now added an article on our website & linked to the FSF piece http://foxestrust.co.uk/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=945&Itemid=2
Guest Bilo Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 Where is Kevin Barclay on matchdays anyway? Is he in his lavish match day box with a pair of binoculars pointed at you lot or is he there at the bottom in a bright orange jacket, arms folded giving you evils for 90 minutes? He sounds like a right characters anyway... The first one. Basically mans the security cameras and dishes out orders to the stewards via radio accordingly. Most of which you can see are embarrassed carrying them out but have no choice.
easilee Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 Isn't S****horpegate getting magnified out of hand? You earlier described it as "an unjustified decision of this magnitude" and now say that the right to hold a banner supporting another football club's cause is so valuable that you have to risk your own good relationship with the club, pursue a witchhunt against Kevin Barclay and Lee Hoos and, no doubt, encourage The Leicester Mercury and the national press to publish stories against Leicester. The quote saying that the whole of Leicestershire is up in arms and in your support on this issue is nonsense - the article just shows you that FSF are deluded and are using you for a headline. I can't imagine that 100% of your members support this action. Perhaps you should choose your battles a little more carefully. "an unjustified decision of this magnitude" Of course it is. No-one else gave a toss about the banner except Mr. Barclay who justified it to himself that it was too political. good relationship with the club No thanks to Mr. Barclay witchhunt against Kevin Barclay He started it! encourage The Leicester Mercury and the national press to publish stories against Leicester. For Leicester supporters I can't imagine that 100% of your members support this action. You don't need to imagine. It's true Perhaps you should choose your battles a little more carefully. Perhaps you should choose your football team to support a little more carefully.
unreachable Posted 5 October 2010 Posted 5 October 2010 We have now added an article on our website & linked to the FSF piece http://foxestrust.co.uk/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=945&Itemid=2 I note from Ian Bason's telephone call on RL last night that The Foxes Trust had failed to get a meeting with the Thai owners. Do you think that your post about the S****horpe banner will help your cause? Presumably, the Foxes Trust also agree with the Fosse Boys' stance on the current confrontation with the club and think that the Fosse Boys' cause is also helped. Seems very strange tactics to me all round.
MPH Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 I note from Ian Bason's telephone call on RL last night that The Foxes Trust had failed to get a meeting with the Thai owners. Do you think that your post about the S****horpe banner will help your cause? Presumably, the Foxes Trust also agree with the Fosse Boys' stance on the current confrontation with the club and think that the Fosse Boys' cause is also helped. Seems very strange tactics to me all round. i am beginning to wonder who you actually are. You are clearly not here to to play devil's advocate and are not 'just another fan' wanting to contribute to this forum. your posts are more than just a little biased against the Fosse Boys and i dont understand what your motives are and what you hope to achieve.... I didnt think it was possible to find a leicester 'supporter' who would turn so much against their fellow supporters.... until now. Its almost like you are on the clubs payroll...i cant think of any other reason why you would defend the club so much.
unreachable Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 i am beginning to wonder who you actually are. You are clearly not here to to play devil's advocate and are not 'just another fan' wanting to contribute to this forum. your posts are more than just a little biased against the Fosse Boys and i dont understand what your motives are and what you hope to achieve.... I didnt think it was possible to find a leicester 'supporter' who would turn so much against their fellow supporters.... until now. Its almost like you are on the clubs payroll...i cant think of any other reason why you would defend the club so much. My views don't differ from some other people who have posted on the topic. Others may share the same views but simply don't post. I (as some other posters have) am just questioning whether the tactics of the Fosse Boys are well judged on this issue and whether it is best to keep a low profile for a while. I'm genuinely pleased that the Fosse Boys are enjoying themselves and are helping to improve the atmosphere in the ground. I'll just stand back and watch what happens from now onwards since I don't really enjoy taking the flak in this thread.
Ozwin Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 unreachable = Kevin Barclay You heard it here first.
easilee Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 unreachable = Kevin Barclay You heard it here first. Was just thinking that!!
easilee Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 My views don't differ from some other people who have posted on the topic. Others may share the same views but simply don't post. I (as some other posters have) am just questioning whether the tactics of the Fosse Boys are well judged on this issue and whether it is best to keep a low profile for a while. I'm genuinely pleased that the Fosse Boys are enjoying themselves and are helping to improve the atmosphere in the ground. I'll just stand back and watch what happens from now onwards since I don't really enjoy taking the flak in this thread. I can understand that anyone who has supported City since 1987 has seen a good many situations come and go and you probably haven't agreed with a lot of them. So then maybe it's just time to go with the flow, support the Fosse Boys for what they are, regale the boys with some anecdotes down at the Counting House before or after the match, and for Gawd's sake enjoy some football.
m00nie Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 i am beginning to wonder who you actually are. You are clearly not here to to play devil's advocate and are not 'just another fan' wanting to contribute to this forum. your posts are more than just a little biased against the Fosse Boys and i dont understand what your motives are and what you hope to achieve.... I didnt think it was possible to find a leicester 'supporter' who would turn so much against their fellow supporters.... until now. Its almost like you are on the clubs payroll...i cant think of any other reason why you would defend the club so much. you make it sound too personal.. "us against them" etc.. easilees reply didnt help either, "he started it" "not with Barclay" etc.. if there's vendettas or agendas on either side then it wont help the cause which does no one any good.. people think barclay is OTT try living with my wife for a week.. shes always making me do crap i dont wana!!!
MPH Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 you make it sound too personal.. "us against them" etc.. easilees reply didnt help either, "he started it" "not with Barclay" etc.. if there's vendettas or agendas on either side then it wont help the cause which does no one any good.. people think barclay is OTT try living with my wife for a week.. shes always making me do crap i dont wana!!! I have been reading unreachables comments for some time now and have been forming my opinion over time. I stand by my last comments. NB: being married myself I have complete sympathy about the wife!!!
Bert Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 You should've carried on displaying it. What were you doing wrong? This was only in the big twat's opinion that what you were doing was too 'political'. The guy's a massive joke, and he's the one that makes our club a laughing stock.
1964FOX Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 You should've carried on displaying it. What were you doing wrong? This was only in the big twat's opinion that what you were doing was too 'political'. The guy's a massive joke, and he's the one that makes our club a laughing stock. I agree Bert I belive the group was doing nothing wrong, it was a genuine display of support for other fans. The sad thing is that it is proof that the members of the group genuinely do want to change the way different sets of fans interact with each other, promoting alliances and support networks and showing the old days of fans hating each other has gone. The reason we took it down was because we were asked politely by stewards and to confront them when they are acting in an appropriate manner is not what we do. The banners would have been taken down by kick off anyway. We do believe the banner was ok and in no way was it intended to be political. Everyone has the right to peacefully protest against current legislation and government guildlines. We have clearly stated our group has issues with the current regulations in football grounds and we surely have the right to show that opinion, we were not breaking ground regulations as the banner was displayed prior to the start of play so us 'standing' holding it up was appropriate.
stripeyfox Posted 6 October 2010 Posted 6 October 2010 Sorry if that link to the Keep S****horpe Standing campaign doesn't work by the way. I think it might be because it starred out the word **** in the address. I'm rubbish with computer stuff so don't know how to get round it but if you want to look for the campaign then I suggest you search for it on google, or facebook or go to the fsf homepage and try to find it from there. Not just directed at this poster, but the whole **** thing with S****horpe is a bit childish really. Unless there is an actual reason why one can't use the name "S****horpe"?
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