Do you back a wage cap in football?

[Edmund]

No I can't see any reason why it's necessary.

As sly has pointed out, football's a business, so it's ultimately down to those in charge to manage wages and make sure it doesn't jeoperdise the well being of the club.

The hypocritical thing is not one person on here would be happy if wage caps were introduced at their workplace, so I don't see how this is any different.

Although I don't agree with the amounts ,I've got no right to criticise and I think it comes down to jealousy from others. The words dog eat dog come to mind.

[ozleicester]

Unfortunately..with a wage cap must come a spend cap for the clubs... which therefore requires a draft system (like the american football or Aussie rules). This of course leads to a boring, predictable mediocre competitiion in which every club gets its time to finish top and bottom.

If you seek mediocrity.. then salary caps and drafts are your friend.

[The Doctor]

All I said was that there were ways around it. I really don't understand your point.

not really. If every club in the country has a set wage budget then all clubs can only pay the same wages, some will pay less than others but no-one can exceed that total wage spending.

Even offshore bank accounts and the like,presuming it's introduced, if fifa/the fa or whoever else is serious about enforcing this then they will take the odd look at a teams books (which, as the majority of clubs are plc's, i'm pretty sure they can do) and would probably be able to note discrepancies in the records and could follow that up and see what is going on.

[FoxyPV]

No I can't see any reason why it's necessary.

As sly has pointed out, football's a business, so it's ultimately down to those in charge to manage wages and make sure it doesn't jeoperdise the well being of the club.

The hypocritical thing is not one person on here would be happy if wage caps were introduced at their workplace, so I don't see how this is any different.

Although I don't agree with the amounts ,I've got no right to criticise and I think it comes down to jealousy from others. The words dog eat dog come to mind.

There are technically salary caps in the public sector as everything is paid in bands thus limiting what you can earn in a certain role.

[davieG]

No I can't see any reason why it's necessary.

As sly has pointed out, football's a business, so it's ultimately down to those in charge to manage wages and make sure it doesn't jeoperdise the well being of the club.

The hypocritical thing is not one person on here would be happy if wage caps were introduced at their workplace, so I don't see how this is any different.

Although I don't agree with the amounts ,I've got no right to criticise and I think it comes down to jealousy from others. The words dog eat dog come to mind.

If only, they reckon they are just businesses but they're not run like businesses, they rarely make profits, they rely more and more on what is in effect donations, they certainly don't run within their means, each club is in effect a monopoly and therefore there is no incentive to provide a quality product/service for a reasonable price. If they are considered businesses they must be the worst run businesses in the world, they are the worst examples of how to run a business.

[Finnegan]

I wondered how long it'd take for german football to get mentioned.

Two fooking posts.

exactly the reaction I was talking about. And I do not blame Bert, the Jerry-love does get a bit cringeworthy and boring.

However, this is the one context in which I think it genuinely is important and relevant to look at German football and take note.

[The Doctor]

how can you not love jerry though, look at him and remember that he absolutely tortures that cat.

[lcfc_jme]

With the greatest respect to Fosse Boy, JME and Andy, it's a bit of a shame that some people have become irritated enough with their pro-German rantings that an entire section of this forum rolls their eyes when any of them mention the Bundesliga.

Because, in all fairness, German football is a brilliant model for a good integration with both the modern game and the sort of 'roots' Daggers is (probably rightly) bemoaning the loss of.

Indeed it is, but you're not allowed to say that over here because English people shouldn't be that fond of anything German.

Frankly, I don't give a flying fvck if anybody on this forum gets the hump about me mentioning German football or the Bundesliga or it bores them to tears. It's certainly no different from the incessant trolling of some on here, nor is it different to people absolutely rimming everything from the Premier League to club Wembley, or having no middle ground on either Matty Fryatt, Richie Wellens or Steve Howard.

In short, if people are sick of mentions about the Bundesliga from some people, they should either get over it or put them on ignore. Y'know, like everyone else has to with the aforementioned bollocks as well.

[Edmund]

There are technically salary caps in the public sector as everything is paid in bands thus limiting what you can earn in a certain role.

I'm not stating that wage caps are non existent, I'm just stating that if you were in a position where you were told that you'd have to half your salary because a cap had been introduced, you wouldn't be too happy.

You could in fact say that clubs technically have salary caps already in place, as they have a certain budget to adhere to.

If only, they reckon they are just businesses but they're not run like businesses, they rarely make profits, they rely more and more on what is in effect donations, they certainly don't run within their means, each club is in effect a monopoly and therefore there is no incentive to provide a quality product/service for a reasonable price. If they are considered businesses they must be the worst run businesses in the world, they are the worst examples of how to run a business.

I agree with most of what you've said. There's no denying that they are unique as no other business can carry on running whilst suffering heavy losses year after year, but they do. That sums it up, you can't compare football business with any other business and have to accept that's how their run. You will never get common ground between clubs whilst rich owners are pumping millions into the club. The owners themselves may be making a loss, but when you've got a few billion in the bank it's more of an everyday expense

You could never guarantee a quality product in football as it is a variable sport and the consumer should know fully well that's the nature of the sport.

My only main gripe is when the owners forget the importance of football culture and it directly effects the supporters. Football clubs have supporters who follow their team year on year passing through many generations. I feel the money is ruining the club/fan bond and both are growing further apart. They need to realise that although football is entertainment it's not a West End show and the same fans will turn up to every event aka without them they'd be screwed.

There's no doubt that they are the worst examples of how to run a business though.

[Swalker]

I would back both the wage cap and also the team wage cap to make leagues more balanced, stop teams spending stupid and putting the hard working clubs at a disadvantage, bring through better English youth talent because they would get more games and also stop decent players having to sit on the bench (i.e. Shay given at Man City)

[ajthefox]

I don't particularly agree with it. Players earnings are ridiculous but we can't complain because we're paying for it.

If the business aspect of football really bothers you that much that don't do what they want and stop watching city.