Oslo City Centre Explosion and Island Murders

[Dr The Singh]

That theory I would support - it's the general "fear" that makes things much more dangerous.

Too many people get carried away thinking there's some kind of threat out there, when in fact, the vast majority (in Europe) are being misled by the media and (like in Greece) the politicians.

But in real life, when you look at it, we've never had it so good.

The money question is big these days, banks still making huge profits, the regular employee not getting a raise at all (on the contrary), redundancies, immigration (as part of the cyclical mass wanderings), violence - some of those are psychological influences (what you'd call a general "feel"), others real.

Also, manual labour is getting less and less important, skills and knowledge are being lost.

But I'm getting a bit carried away.

In the days following the events in Norway, we've had a guy shooting up his entire furnishings (with the police getting called up because they thought he was attacking people) and a 21-year old stabbing her father to death and injuring her mother.

Acts like Breiviks can trigger a certain character to "finalize" the deal, to follow-up on their own plans, to mimic what he did.

I totally agree with you, society in general or very simplistic and react to what's happening on there door steps rather then seeing the big picture. People in general look for a scape goat to blame for the losses or misfortune and picking on some group who are not of your own or have very little in relation to you is seen as the obvious place to blame.

Not to say some groups of people do not help themselves, many immigrants are anti in there views of integration and adopting there host nation, and wish to follow there ancestrail roots and in some ways wish to convert others to there beliefs. This leads to area's or ghetto's of the people of such thoughts, will low education rates, unemployment and a good target for extremism!!

[Guest MattP]

That's a very dangerous and sweeping statement, given the amount of liberty immigrants of all races can enjoy in modern, egalitarian, European states. The extremism of minority anti-Islam groups is deplorable, but no more deplorable than Islamic extremism itself, and both must be eradicated. If normal people in those countries wish to politically move for reduced immigration via the backing of democratic, centre-right parties who are regaining control across Europe, and who compete in fair elections, then that is their right.

We all need to work hard to combat any forms of extremism as well to ensure people dont turn towards the far-right.....

caught this story yesterday, yes its Daily Mail I realise http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019547/Anjem-Choudary-Islamic-extremists-set-Sharia-law-zones-UK-cities.html

I was staggered that these posters were left up for days though with no one taking them down, really saddened me, I was at a bus stop in Glenfield a couple of years ago and someone had put some old NF stickers up and I made sure before I had left the every one had been taken down or at minimum the wording had been scrawled out, its been said before but we really do need to see more from the "moderate" muslims to be combatting this sort of behaviour that is only fuelling hatred and giving ammunition to both extreme sides of the argument.

The more you see of this the more likely a Brevik is bred here.