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The KP Wi-fi

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Got onto it with my iPhone, but took 10 or more minutes to connect. If you think about it, out of the 20 odd thousand who go matches you will have a good few hundred possibly trying to access it so it's probably bellowing out smoke as we speak.

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Got onto it with my iPhone, but took 10 or more minutes to connect. If you think about it, out of the 20 odd thousand who go matches you will have a good few hundred possibly trying to access it so it's probably bellowing out smoke as we speak.

Will check this out with my blackberry on Saturday.

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Do you have to have an account or do you just get straight on and if you do need an account where do you sign up

Posted

It's absolutely shocking. Never have I been able to access the internet there.

Exactly, hence why i was asking if there was something i was missing :\ I know there a wifi connections that can only be connected to via Laptop.

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From a technical stand point a Bowl Stadium like ours is almost the perfect structure to ruin any sort of wireless signal,.

and as for getting it fixed, it'll probably be cheaper to build a new stadium. In the US the New York Giants (NFL) spent $100 Million (£60m) last year providing wi-fi access in their stadium with capacity for just 10,000 fans (in a stadium for 100,000).

Basically it's a shitter.

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My wif'es phone asked for a logon when trying to use it.. Mine didn't ask for a logon and dropped back to 3G. I don't think there's any router out there designed to take that many concurrent connections, let alone the pipe out of the ground to the tinterweb.

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On my iPhone a screen pops up saying you need to login. If you don't, then you stay on wifi (not 3g) and it blocks you using anything as you need to log in. So you have to 'forget' the network and just use 3G.

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i dont think having a wireless network that can handle 20,000 concurrent connections for a couple of hours a week is cost effective. The outlay would be massive.

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From a technical stand point a Bowl Stadium like ours is almost the perfect structure to ruin any sort of wireless signal,.

and as for getting it fixed, it'll probably be cheaper to build a new stadium. In the US the New York Giants (NFL) spent $100 Million (£60m) last year providing wi-fi access in their stadium with capacity for just 10,000 fans (in a stadium for 100,000).

Basically it's a shitter.

Tried to use ours at the Bristol game, fcuked my phone up for at least 30 mins which is very annoying when you are trying to get other scores.

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It does exist, but when I try to open a web page up, it redirects me to a login page, asking for username and password. (I'm trying to join the "LCFC Public " one)

I sit in J2, so it's got decent strength

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The Happy Valley Horse Racing Stadium in Hong Kong holds 55,000 and maintains a perfect WI FI signal. So it is possible.

Also aint the London Underground soon be able to recieve and send phone signals with WI FI for the olympics. So it can be done

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Providing WiFi for any significant amount of people is a technical nightmare.

I don't think it would be a massive problem to stick a few WiFi APs (access points) in each turnstile area to give someone a signal with full strength. The headache comes from those APs becoming saturated - each client must share the total bandwidth available, and then you need an internet connection with enough bandwidth to satisfy the requirements of those clients. The WiFi at Microsoft's conferences - where you've got "just" a few thousand techies in the room, is quickly killed by the sheer amount of people trying to connect. Compare their ability to provide a decent infrastructure with a football club.

To one of the above posters - routers, in this case, are largely irrelevant to the obstacles likely to be encountered.

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Also aint the London Underground soon be able to recieve and send phone signals with WI FI for the olympics. So it can be done

Only at a few stations, and not inside the tunnels, as far as I know. You'll get internet access but no GSM (voice capabilities).

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I can't even use the internet on 3G. I don't know if it's an Orange thing or what but it's annoying.

I'm on Orange and have exactly the same problem. It's a right pain in the arse.

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I'm on Orange and have exactly the same problem. It's a right pain in the arse.

It's not even just at the stadium, it's quite hard to get a decent signal for 3G anywhere. When my contract ends I'm going to go with O2 I reckon.

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Providing WiFi for any significant amount of people is a technical nightmare.

I don't think it would be a massive problem to stick a few WiFi APs (access points) in each turnstile area to give someone a signal with full strength. The headache comes from those APs becoming saturated - each client must share the total bandwidth available, and then you need an internet connection with enough bandwidth to satisfy the requirements of those clients. The WiFi at Microsoft's conferences - where you've got "just" a few thousand techies in the room, is quickly killed by the sheer amount of people trying to connect. Compare their ability to provide a decent infrastructure with a football club.

To one of the above posters - routers, in this case, are largely irrelevant to the obstacles likely to be encountered.

Ok lets work this out on the back of a fag pack:

A cisco access point can handle upto 25 concurrent connections. In reality for some sort of performance i think it is more like 15 concurrent connections. For this exercise i have selected the Cisco 1242AG Aironet Access Points.

A cisco switch has 48 ports. For this exercise i have selected a cisco 3750 - 48 port switch.

On the basis of 25 concurrent connections per AP we would need to deploy 1300 AP's. The approx cost for one of these babies is £200 so the AP's alone would cost £260,000.

Add to this the need for the switches which go for around 5k each. 1300 AP's divided by 48 ports on a switch = 28 switches which would cost around £140,000

Add to this professional services for wireless surveys and install/comfig costs guestimated at around £30,000

The wireless network for fans would come in at around £450,000

To be able to support 32,000 connections i doubt a 200Mb internet pipe would be sufficient which would cost upwards of 15,000 a month. Also there is the small matter of policing fans from accessing sites they should not do!

All the above are estimates and subject to a full consultation.

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