Dannzy

[SpartakAnj]

Sorry but we've tried Vassell on the wing for over a year now and he's been shit there. In fact I'm struggling to remember one good performance out there, his best games have all been playing him down the centre. I don't think he's good enough for the starting line-up anyway, yes he's got pace but very little else, his end product is appalling.

You don't NEED an orthodox winger to play 4-3-3, you could play square pegs in round holes, like crap clubs do with no money. But that's shit, we are not a crap club with no money and we have the means to get players who are most suited to certain positions. I'm tired of these makeshift wide men, Vassell, Danns, Schlupp - it's rubbish. Nugent may well be able to manage out there but why should get players to manage when we could have bought a player who relishes picking the ball up, skinning someone and whipping a cross in for people like Nugent to convert?

I'd rather stick with 4-4-2 and at least have players in their proper positions, then tell them to get their arses in gear and do something with the ball. It's not ideal because as we both agree we could do with a winger so we can play 4-3-3, which I think would suit our midfield more as you say, but for now, I'd rather have no wingers than players pretending to be wingers.

Ah you make very good points!

I concur that makeshift wide men is a bit crap and I am not Vassell's biggest fan but I believe we have some excellent midfield players that are being restricted by having to play out of position in the 4-4-2 diamond. Would we rather not have a system that allows us to get the best of the midfield players and sacrifice what Vassell offers as an out and out striker? Vassell does cause defenses problems but lets face it he can not finish for toffee. Better shove him out wide and do the donkey work by stretching the opposition and create space for the others. He is also less likely to be presented with clear cut chances and then promptly bugger it up (see Cardiff game)! I also think 4-3-3 is a better option now then at the start of the season because the defence is gelling and Peltier gives us an attacking option from right back.

If we stick with 4-4-2 we will grind out results by stifling the opposition but we will not see free flowing attacking football because too many of our midfield men are out of position and we do not have enough width. In a 4-3-3 the problem will no longer be midfield but rather the front 3. Can Beckford play down the middle on his todd? Can Vassell be effective as a wide forward? I genuinely think Nugent would a real threat in the wider forward role so long as he is given license to roam and get up in support of Beckford. I think 4-3-3 will result in better attacking football but equally we could be more vulnerable and struggle as we did at the start of the season.

Ah so many questions. But it is clear that if Sven is going to use 4-3-3 in the long run then, as well as buying a new striker, he needed to buy a player that fits the wide forward role. Could Kebe have done it? Possibly. But I dont see many players out there that were available that Sven could have got in to do that job. But finding one should have been a priority along with the striker.

[Thracian]

Certainly King and Wellens, appear to be having a lacklustre season, and probably deserve to be dropped, but not sold. Danns has been unlucky to be dropped, as he appears to be a fine player.

King, the club's leading scorer, Wellens last campaign's player of the season... doesn't anyone wonder why they're both struggling - and most every other attacking player? For me we're contriving a system which only suits defending, and not for the first time at Leicester.

I wish they just listen for once and smell the roses. A dozen years of Championship-level failure ought to convince everyone that cautious strategies win you nothing. But it looks like we'll wait a while longer yet.

As for Danns his record suggests he should have scored by now, but he's not. Why not? Is there one attacker in our squad who's playing to his full potential this season? No. So why not?

I'll tell you why. We play the wrong system, we've got square pegs in round holes, we never play with two strikers (Vassell is not a striker) we cramp the space, we've got no pace and we've got no-one who can deliver crosses with zip, spin and accuracy of Alan Sheehan. Surely there's someone out there.

Bearing in mind last night's injuries if we played the team below we'd have far more balance, pace and attacking potential.

Kasper,

Mills, Bamba, Konchesky,

Peltier, King, Danns (or Wellens), Dyer,

Vassell, Nugent (or Howard), Schlupp.

Derby would have a lot to cope with and our lads would have passes available in every direction.

[The Doctor]

King, the club's leading scorer, Wellens last campaign's player of the season... doesn't anyone wonder why they're both struggling - and most every other attacking player? For me we're contriving a system which only suits defending, and not for the first time at Leicester.

I wish they just listen for once and smell the roses. A dozen years of Championship-level failure ought to convince everyone that cautious strategies win you nothing. But it looks like we'll wait a while longer yet.

Got to say, I enjoyed our couple of years in the prem and a couple of years of (relative) championship success in those dozen years of championship failure.

[Thracian]

Got to say, I enjoyed our couple of years in the prem and a couple of years of (relative) championship success in those dozen years of championship failure.

Okay LargeAl 10 years - I didn't bother adding them precisely cos it was so depressing. I hear what you're saying about the Pearson but, for me, he was a nearly man. We never were going to score enough goals or win enough matches the way he played. Our 61 goals was well short of our competitors and our 21 away goals was woeful. Much is made of the play-offs but we didn't even reach the final and were 21 points off second place which is the proverbial mile.

No, I wouldn't say Sven's done any better considering the resources he's been given but the fact remains that both have been too cautious. Whether the fear gets to them at Leicester I don't know but I real can't see why it should. Failure hardly condemns them to life of destitution. The pay-offs are generous and neither was/is unlikely to find alternative employment. So why would they party with the brakes on?

[Corky]

Okay LargeAl 10 years - I didn't bother adding them precisely cos it was so depressing. I hear what you're saying about the Pearson but, for me, he was a nearly man. We never were going to score enough goals or win enough matches the way he played. Our 61 home goals was well short of our competitors and our 21 away goals was woeful. Much is made of the play-offs but we didn't even reach the final and were 21 points off second place which is the proverbial mile.

No, I wouldn't say Sven's done any better considering the resources he's been given but the fact remains that both have been too cautious. Whether the fear gets to them at Leicester I don't know but I real can't see why it should. Failure hardly condemns them to life of destitution. The pay-offs are generous and neither was/is unlikely to find alternative employment. So why would they party with the brakes on?

You've added on 21 goals and still it isn't enough

[Thracian]

You've added on 21 goals and still it isn't enough

You're right. Sixty-one was the full total of goals and 40 the number of home goals - no-wonder we fell so far short of the top two!

[Number 6]

King, the club's leading scorer, Wellens last campaign's player of the season... doesn't anyone wonder why they're both struggling - and most every other attacking player? For me we're contriving a system which only suits defending, and not for the first time at Leicester.

I wish they just listen for once and smell the roses. A dozen years of Championship-level failure ought to convince everyone that cautious strategies win you nothing. But it looks like we'll wait a while longer yet.

As for Danns his record suggests he should have scored by now, but he's not. Why not? Is there one attacker in our squad who's playing to his full potential this season? No. So why not?

I'll tell you why. We play the wrong system, we've got square pegs in round holes, we never play with two strikers (Vassell is not a striker) we cramp the space, we've got no pace and we've got no-one who can deliver crosses with zip, spin and accuracy of Alan Sheehan. Surely there's someone out there.

Bearing in mind last night's injuries if we played the team below we'd have far more balance, pace and attacking potential.

Kasper,

Mills, Bamba, Konchesky,

Peltier, King, Danns (or Wellens), Dyer,

Vassell, Nugent (or Howard), Schlupp.

Derby would have a lot to cope with and our lads would have passes available in every direction.

You make a lot of good points but I really hope we don't see that team out. Peltier has been doing very well from RB so why change?

[Tuna]

I rate Danns and have been dismayed by his lack of game time. Give him a chance sven, Gelson does nothing.

[Thracian]

You make a lot of good points but I really hope we don't see that team out. Peltier has been doing very well from RB so why change?

He's still down the right but more involved in supporting the attack and stifling opposition attacks early.

[Topman]

Can't believe people are comparing king with izzet, forget the MON days. Muzzy single handily took Leicester to the premiership under Mickey sdams, was the best player in the championship and as adams said we was a good team without muzzy, with muzzy with are a great team, his set piece delivery was class above, let's not mention wellans freekicks now, jesus Christ

[Guest Col city fan]

King, the club's leading scorer, Wellens last campaign's player of the season... doesn't anyone wonder why they're both struggling - and most every other attacking player? For me we're contriving a system which only suits defending, and not for the first time at Leicester.

I wish they just listen for once and smell the roses. A dozen

years of Championship-level failure ought to convince everyone that cautious strategies win you nothing. But it looks like we'll wait a while longer yet.

As for Danns his record suggests he should have scored by now, but he's not. Why not? Is there one attacker in our squad who's playing to his full potential this season? No. So why not?

I'll tell you why. We play the wrong system, we've got square pegs in round holes, we never play with two strikers (Vassell is not a striker) we cramp the space, we've got no pace and we've got no-one who can deliver crosses with zip, spin and accuracy of Alan Sheehan. Surely there's someone out there.

Bearing in mind last night's injuries if we played the team

below we'd have far more balance, pace and attacking potential.

Kasper,

Mills, Bamba, Konchesky,

Peltier, King, Danns (or Wellens), Dyer,

Vassell, Nugent (or Howard), Schlupp.

Derby would have a lot to cope with and our lads would have passes available in every direction.

Have to agree with all of this. However, Sven needed to sort out the defence. Now let's see whether we can create a credible attacking prowess

Don't think he'll change the diamond though....

[Rustyfox]

whilst the diamond hasnt seemed to create alot of attacking threat in recent games (& i think sven will go 4-3-3) id still like to see how we play with Nugent in the team alongside Beckford. in he cardiff game, everytime the ball went up to our 2 forwards they were more often than not outmuscled and gave the ball away. IMO Nugent does v.well to compete with defenders & I think this would help Beckford.

Ultimatley i think Sven will alternate between the diamond & 4-3-3 depending on opposition