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I've noticed these past couple of years that both here and all over Europe St Pauli of Germany have gained a lot of popularity.

Can anyone explain to me why?

I've read bits and bobs about it, but I still don't get it.

Guest MattP
Posted (edited)

I've noticed these past couple of years that both here and all over Europe St Pauli of Germany have gained a lot of popularity.

Can anyone explain to me why?

I've read bits and bobs about it, but I still don't get it.

Fashionable with a lot of people, a club based on great principles to be fair but also have an extremely violent far left minority that also follow them causing a lot of trouble. Half the kids that walk around wearing the merchandise though have never been near the district of St Pauli in their life.

Been to Hamburg more times than I can remember and I've always gone with the Blues as they are linked to Rangers and they were the first team I watched over there, also everytime something I've seen that's kicked off over there down the Reeperbahn (excluding Haye-Klitchko) is usually started by the St Pauli lot.

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Guest Bilo
Posted

I'm confused Out Foxed.

Your posts on the subject are saying one thing, but your sig is saying something very different.

Not only do you have Sanckt on there, but you've also got Rayo Vallecano who are a similar kind of mentality.......

Guest MattP
Posted

I like St Pauli but I like Rangers over Celtic. Weird.

Don't mention that at Ibrox or the Piggery. lol

To be fair from what I've heard recently a lot of the traditions have flown out the window recently anyway, the merchandising etc is probably the opposite of what they want to be (auppose a bit like Che making companies millions with him on a t-shirt) and some sort of St Pauli bar with a few high ranking officials in was bollocked last season for celebrating goals with women stripping.

Posted

I'm confused Out Foxed.

Your posts on the subject are saying one thing, but your sig is saying something very different.

Not only do you have Sanckt on there, but you've also got Rayo Vallecano who are a similar kind of mentality.......

I thought exactly this. Split personality? lol

@Matt I know its strange lol

Posted

I'm confused Out Foxed.

Your posts on the subject are saying one thing, but your sig is saying something very different.

Not only do you have Sanckt on there, but you've also got Rayo Vallecano who are a similar kind of mentality.......

i'd hope you were intelligent enough to realise i'm being self depreciating. inspired, in part, by matt's comment.

Guest Bilo
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Note for future reference, irony and sarcasm aren't immediately apparent through a laptop screen.

It wouldn't be the first time I'd heard such things said in all seriousness about St. Pauli followers.

They're a cracking club, more character than any British club in my opinion.

Posted

Note for future reference, irony and sarcasm aren't immediately apparent through a laptop screen.

It wouldn't be the first time I'd heard such things said in all seriousness about St. Pauli followers.

They're a cracking club, more character than any British club in my opinion.

sorry but if you can't spot it when i have the team in my sig, then that's your fault...not mine, just a note for future reference ;)

Guest MattP
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i'd hope you were intelligent enough to realise i'm being self depreciating. inspired, in part, by matt's comment.

What did I say? I didn't say anything that isn't completely factual.

How many Pauli games you been to?

Guest Bilo
Posted

What did I say? I didn't say anything that isn't completely factual.

How many Pauli games you been to?

In fairness, I rolled my eyes when I saw you'd commented on this thread but you were actually more than reasonable and objective considering you're pro Hamburg and Rangers.

Obviously looking for an argument.

Guest MattP
Posted (edited)

In fairness, I rolled my eyes when I saw you'd commented on this thread but you were actually more than reasonable and objective considering you're pro Hamburg and Rangers.

Obviously looking for an argument.

Not really, just always been a bit confused with all the St Pauli love in that goes on when the vast majority of those who seem to be involved in it have never really experience them in the flesh. Just watched a few videos on youtube and came to an opinion.

They have almost just become a fashion statement rather than a football club for the usuals. Like I said, I didn't say anything that wasn't factual.

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Don't mention that at Ibrox or the Piggery. lol

To be fair from what I've heard recently a lot of the traditions have flown out the window recently anyway, the merchandising etc is probably the opposite of what they want to be (auppose a bit like Che making companies millions with him on a t-shirt) and some sort of St Pauli bar with a few high ranking officials in was bollocked last season for celebrating goals with women stripping.

It's true that the club have been trying to maximise revenue streams, just like any normal club, and that's included hiring a box out to some strip bar who have girls that dance about in the nip when FCSP score. This has caused much unrest amongst the fans though and the Sozialromantiker movement started. After a bunch of protests with the red jolly rodger at the millerntor and several meetings with the club. FCSP have agreed to ban the dancing girls from the ground and I think something was also done about the kalte muschi but I'm not sure.

Guest MattP
Posted

15, not that it matters.

Very impressed. We've probably been on the same flight out a few times.

Guest Bilo
Posted

A good documentary here on St. Pauli's recent history and battles to keep their identity.

Surely one of the most principled clubs in modern football, respect for that.

Guest MattP
Posted (edited)

It's true that the club have been trying to maximise revenue streams, just like any normal club, and that's included hiring a box out to some strip bar who have girls that dance about in the nip when FCSP score. This has caused much unrest amongst the fans though and the Sozialromantiker movement started. After a bunch of protests with the red jolly rodger at the millerntor and several meetings with the club. FCSP have agreed to ban the dancing girls from the ground and I think something was also done about the kalte muschi but I'm not sure.

Aye pretty much what I was told, although I always found it weird a club so associated with equal rights for women and human rights could be that closely connected to an area like the Reeperbarn.

That said if any of you are there, get yourself down to the flower market. :ph34r:

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Guest Bilo
Posted

They've always played in that area.

Prior to it becoming the red light district and the fashionable part of Hamburg, it was a pretty bog-standard working-class area and Pauli were a conventional lower league club followed more or less exclusively by people in the area.

In or around the 70s and 80s, a lot of artists and hippies moved into the area and it became fashionable. St. Pauli picked up these people as fans, the club's culture went into the left-of-centre we know today and the rest is history.

Guest MattP
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They've always played in that area.

Prior to it becoming the red light district and the fashionable part of Hamburg, it was a pretty bog-standard working-class area and Pauli were a conventional lower league club followed more or less exclusively by people in the area.

In or around the 70s and 80s, a lot of artists and hippies moved into the area and it became fashionable. St. Pauli picked up these people as fans, the club's culture went into the left-of-centre we know today and the rest is history.

Documentary is excellent. Very interesting and I wish our fans cared about the history and traditions of the club as much as they do.

I realise they play in the area but it's just weird when you see all their flags, statements, banners etc etc and what it represents in all the bars and joints that have clearly had a huge involvment in massive prositution human trafficking operations

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