Fined $60 million and all wins since 1998 cancelled...wow!

[ozleicester]

For those who may not have heard.

My understanding in simple terms...

Coach of University football team abuses kids for 10+ years

the University knew and did nothing for years as they were worried it would damage their reputation.

Eventaully its taken to court, the university is hit with 60 million fine and has all of their last 10 years victories wiped plust a whole lot more (see the link)

My question is, is it fair to the people who played for that team...who didnt know about the abuse and gave their all, is it fair that they should lose there records and histroy and results?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177703/Penn-state-scandal-NCAA-slaps-university-60million-fine-postseason-ban.html

[Captain...]

For those who may not have heard.

My understanding in simple terms...

Coach of University football team abuses kids for 10+ years

the University knew and did nothing for years as they were worried it would damage their reputation.

Eventaully its taken to court, the university is hit with 60 million fine and has all of their last 10 years victories wiped plust a whole lot more (see the link)

My question is, is it fair to the people who played for that team...who didnt know about the abuse and gave their all, is it fair that they should lose there records and histroy and results?

http://www.dailymail...season-ban.html

It's almost like the abuse was like a banned substance, did they play better because of it? I doubt it, unless you had to suck off the coach if you lost.

I don't really see the benefit of stripping them of their wins, $60million is sufficient punishment to the University, although they should all be rounded up and shot for the use of the word winningest, seriously what the fvck is that all about. Also he is expected to serve 500 years in prison, I bet he only serves half that and gets off with good behaviour.

Anyway, back to the punishment:

'Football will never again be placed ahead of educating, nurturing and protecting young people,' Mr Emmert said.

He added: 'All involved in intercollegiate athletics must be watchful that programs and individuals do not overwhelm the values of higher education.

'In the Penn State case, the results were perverse and unconscionable.'

I guess if that is the justification, then it makes sense, college football in the states is ridiculous, and I guess a fine can be paid, but the damage to the football team and the history books will serve as a permanent reminder to those attending the college what happened, and that some things are more important than football (well american football anyway, stupid sport, certainly not worth getting molested over).

[Out Foxed]

Joe Pa was an idiot. He swept it under the carpet. Just a shame he died before it all was resolved.

[Jordan]

The penalties against Penn State are massive, without precedent, but necessary. Pretty much every time a program has been sanctioned, it has had to do with violating NCAA laws in ways to give a team a competitive advantage (illegal recruiting techniques, illegally paying players, academic fraud to allow players to keep grades high enough to play, etc.). But really, the NCAA had to do something huge. I know this is a subjective matter, but I think raping children is a far more serious crime than allowing a booster to buy a quarterback a car; don't you? The entire country was outraged by this. Penn State hid from law enforcement that a known pedophile has sexually abused two boys, which actually allowed him to go on and rape children for at least seven more years. By choosing to turn their heads the other way, Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program, Graham Spanier and the PSU leadership, and others can, really, be considered complicit in child rape.

I don't think anybody with a conscience can really care less about Joe Paterno's legacy going from such lofty heights to the gutter.

If any of you are interested to see how big college sports are here (especially football and basketball) and would like to know just how financially exploitative it is, The Atlantic has a huge series of articles on the problems that plague the NCAA.

Also he is expected to serve 500 years in prison, I bet he only serves half that and gets off with good behaviour.

[Guest MattP]

Shame the SFA didn't do to Celtic what the NCAA did to Penn State

Pretty tragic story tbh and I always thought Joe Paterno was a great man for what he did to that college. Good job he died tbh.

[Jordan]

Shame the SFA didn't do to Celtic what the NCAA did to Penn State

Pretty tragic story tbh and I always thought Joe Paterno was a great man for what he did to that college. Good job he died tbh.

JoePa was considered everything but a god on Penn State's campus. This must be the biggest fall from grace in American sports since O.J. Simpson.

[Guest MattP]

JoePa was considered everything but a god on Penn State's campus. This must be the biggest fall from grace in American sports since O.J. Simpson.

I know I remember watching the protests when he was dismissed. Tragic stuff.

[Smudge]

I feel sorry for the other innocents, the students who are there and the residents of State College, many of whom depend on Penn State football for their livelihood.

For those who don't know the area it's a small town nestled in the Allegheny Mountains of PA. The only other industry is close by is coal mining, farming and lumber.

Back in the 80's I spent many a night in that town while visiting mining operations in the area. It was my first introduction to college football and I went to several games so I have a soft spot for the place.

It's very sad to see them brought to this over the actions one man and the inaction of others.