Tia Sharp

[I am Rod Hull]

Great stuff. Really putting me in my place now and not at all looking like a prize penis. Woop woop

Nonce loving lefty cockbag.

Why does Daggers get all the best insults?

[Daggers]

Yeah yeah keep humping Billy Ray

Support your point of view dipshit.

[Guest MattP]

Support your point of view dipshit.

No need, you've convinced me Billy Ray, he might not have done it, he might have just forgot someone had buried the body in his house and he did a runner when it was found by accident. Can I have odds on a guilty verdict please as I might have a tenner on just in case?

[Jimothy]

If you two can't see the point Daggers is making you have a serious problem. Yes the evidence looks compelling, but how do we know it wasn't Granny who killed her and this guy was protecting his partner? How go we know is wasn't a terrible accident and in a moment of panic they/he hid the body? We now nothing, other than a body, presumably Tia Sharp's because it hasn't been formally identified, has been found at the house where he lived. I would be very surprised if the body wasn't hers, and he didn't kill her, but I'm not going to declare his guilt right now based on what we actually know.

Think back a few years, Ipswich, around Christmas time. 5 prostitutes went missing. A man was arrested. The BBC, ITV, Sky etc camped outside his house, the evidence stacked up (all be it not as compelling as this case) his name was dragged through the mud, his family learnt through the media of his use of prostitutes, and he endured this for a week as the whole country declared his guilt. Guess who went down for it? I'll give you a massive clue, it wasn't him.

[fleckneymike]

No need, you've convinced me Billy Ray, he might not have done it, he might have just forgot someone had buried the body in his house and he did a runner when it was found by accident. Can I have odds on a guilty verdict please as I might have a tenner on just in case?

If I might interject on the back and forth by the Oxford Union, I believe the point being made by Daggers is that regardless of how a case appears it is always wise to follow the rule of law when determining guilt. To not follow such a system and instead rely upon common sense would ironically lack common sense.

It may well be that the gentleman in question is guilty but it is rather difficult to determine a mans guilt via press reports and football community message boards.

[Guest MattP]

If I might interject on the back and forth by the Oxford Union, I believe the point being made by Daggers is that regardless of how a case appears it is always wise to follow the rule of law when determining guilt. To not follow such a system and instead rely upon common sense would ironically lack common sense.

It may well be that the gentleman in question is guilty but it is rather difficult to determine a mans guilt via press reports and football community message boards.

I get exactly the point he's making, I'm saying if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it might be a duck.

Yeah we'll go through the trial etc but we all know whats happened here, most of us pretty much knew before the body was even found.

[Guest MattP]

Think back a few years, Ipswich, around Christmas time. 5 prostitutes went missing. A man was arrested. The BBC, ITV, Sky etc camped outside his house, the evidence stacked up (all be it not as compelling as this case) his name was dragged through the mud, his family leant through the media of his use of prostitutes, and he endured this for a week as the whole country declared his guilt. Guess who went down for it? I'll give you a massive clue, it wasn't him.

But again just like the case Moosebreath mentioned, completely different to this.

[fleckneymike]

I get exactly the point he's making, I'm saying if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it might be a duck.

Yeah we'll go through the trial etc but we all know whats happened here, most of us pretty much knew before the body was even found.

Would you care to inform the rest of us what happened then.

[Jimothy]

But again just like the case Moosebreath mentioned, completely different to this.

Well done for completely disregarding the first half of my post. So go on, as fleckneymike asks, what happened here? What do you know, that you are 100% sure of that proves his guilt? What do you know that proves it wasn't an accident followed by a moment of panic in hiding the body? What do you know that proves it wasn't Granny?

[MooseBreath]

maybe instead of bickering about whether or not we should be allowing ourselves to judge the guy who has been arrested, we should be respecting the fact that a child has died

No, **** that. The moral high ground feels proper homo. I'll leave it to the lefties. He's obviously to blame for the death, maybe it was a weird accident, but it was probably murder.

[Guest Bilo]

Fvck the judicial system and due process, get the CPS to use FoxesTalk to sort this case out.

What should happen now? Hanging, electric chair or death by a thousand cuts?

[Guest MattP]

I'm not saying I know exactly whats happened, but I dont think people should be shy about expressing an opinion on an internet forum that someone might be guilty of a murder of someone found dead in their house a few hours after they were pleaded for her to come home and then did a runner when the body was found.

Of course the courts will decide, but in this instance I think we can use a bit of common sense.

[Guest Bilo]

It does look a foregone conclusion, but somebody else posted a Mirror front page regarding the murder of Jo Yeates that just looked as obvious. Local oddball, lived alone, previous convictions, lived close to the victim and knew her etc etc. He was completely innocent but had his name dragged through the mud.

It's dangerous to jump to conclusions when the bloke hasn't even been charged yet.

[Guest MattP]

I don't think that Yeates one looked anywhere as obvious as this one.

[Guest Bilo]

You wouldn't know it if you read that Mirror article though.

I'm sure I could find more examples of the press jumping to conclusions, but I'm tired and grouchy as fvck.

[Guest MattP]

You wouldn't know it if you read that Mirror article though.

I'm sure I could find more examples of the press jumping to conclusions, but I'm tired and grouchy as fvck.

Probably right, I've never read the Mirror mind.

[Guest Bilo]

Good choice mate.

Just watched the interview, everything about his body language does say guilty as do his numerous references to her in the past tense. This, coupled with the strong circumstantial evidence, doesn't exactly make him look innocent.

I'd be surprised if he was acquitted if charged but there have been stranger verdicts, you can be caught on camera killing people these days and get away scot free.*

Actually, sod all that. Feed him to the pigs Erroll.

* = Only works when wearing police uniform.

[Guest]

I'm saying if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it might be a duck.

As a lawyer, if something "might" be a duck, it doesn't necessarily follow that it actually is a duck.

Well done for completely disregarding the first half of my post. So go on, as fleckneymike asks, what happened here? What do you know, that you are 100% sure of that proves his guilt? What do you know that proves it wasn't an accident followed by a moment of panic in hiding the body? What do you know that proves it wasn't Granny?

Careful, you might be accused of being the new Sherlock Holmes, or of making up stories.

[Jace]

Doesn't surprise me he hasn't been charged yet it looks like the Police have had Officer Barbrady on this case all week its taken so long to find her

[heskeyisabeast]

You would have to look like him to bury a body in your own house

[fleckneymike]

Some nice advice for the press

http://davidbanksmedialaw.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/contempt-of-court-and-how-to-avoid-it/

[Guest MattP]

You would have to look like him to bury a body in your own house

When I looked at the picture of him today that was accompanied by the "do not approach this man, wanted in connection" etc I thought you didn't even need a crime with it.

Anyone who looks like that shouldn't be approached by anyone full stop, the day where these scumbags are burnt out of their slums and tarred and feathered by the masses can't come quick enough.

How much longer we'll carry on paying them to keep breeding I have no idea.

[fleckneymike]

Start at 5:01 and see why context is everything

[fleckneymike]

Sadly it appears that the Grandmother has also now been arrested on suspicion of murder.

[sphericalfox]

When I looked at the picture of him today that was accompanied by the "do not approach this man, wanted in connection" etc I thought you didn't even need a crime with it.

Anyone who looks like that shouldn't be approached by anyone full stop, the day where these scumbags are burnt out of their slums and tarred and feathered by the masses can't come quick enough.

How much longer we'll carry on paying them to keep breeding I have no idea.

Good thing he wasn't poor, and black eh?

What kind of brain do you possess that a thought like that can occur, and your inner impulse was to share it with everyone, what an utter twat you are. Have you actually seen yourself? I can make many sweeping generalisations based simply on the way you look that wouldn't be very kind, and you would argue not very fair. But I wouldn't need to make those judgements as I have all the evidence I need to cast my assumptions based on the moronic postings you make.