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The owners are the best thing to happen to the club since MON. Any doubt about them stems from the fact that they are foreign as we have all heard the horror stories about foreign owners elsewhere. But the fact is that they've been nothing short of superb since the day they arrived. We got incredibly lucky, and a bit of support shown towards them would be well deserved.

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But to me, the people who wanted Pearson to be replaced were using absolutely no common sense.

Exactly. The problem is not that the Thais spoke to Redknapp.

The problem is that the Thais, or anybody else for that matter, thought that sacking the manager was a remotely reasonable reaction to a start to the season in which we had played some very good, entertaining football and not got the results we deserved.

In a low-scoring game like football, the role of luck (particularly in a small sample of games) is so great that it can distort the perception of the way that a match has gone.

Guest MattP
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Exactly. The problem is not that the Thais spoke to Redknapp.

The problem is that the Thais, or anybody else for that matter, thought that sacking the manager was a remotely reasonable reaction to a start to the season in which we had played some very good, entertaining football and not got the results we deserved.

In a low-scoring game like football, the role of luck (particularly in a small sample of games) is so great that it can distort the perception of the way that a match has gone.

Spot on.

My trust in them is very low and they have made consistently bad decisions since they have been here and look like they were a whisker away from making another one, add that to the debt they have accumlated on the club and it's a pretty tragic situation.

Nigel Pearson is single handedly giving us optimism and making this club worth watching aat the minute and they fact they even considered getting rid before the end of September speaks volumes.

Guest Col city fan
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Weighing everything up I think the owners have done an awful lot for the football club. The stadium looks superb, we've spent money on signings and they had the courage to sack Sven and to bring Nige back.

If the rumours are true though and they did speak to Arry, then I don't like that. I think anything that might undermine the existing manager is a wrong thing to do. I hope it's all bollox to be honest.

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i think the owners appear to want promotion more badly that the fans, and will go about getting it at any cost.

it will be intersting come jan when the transfer window opens and some big clubs come sniffiing aound you know who.this will show whether they are in it for the money or the long term

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Weighing everything up I think the owners have done an awful lot for the football club. The stadium looks superb, we've spent money on signings and they had the courage to sack Sven and to bring Nige back.

If the rumours are true though and they did speak to Arry, then I don't like that. I think anything that might undermine the existing manager is a wrong thing to do. I hope it's all bollox to be honest.

I'm going to have to disagree with you there Col. In what way does it look superb? Ok, they've done up the megastore, I wonder why?

But it's still a crap looking stadium, arguably even crapper with their company's name all over it and more empty seats. The stadium's going to take a lot of work to make it look 'superb'.

I think they made a good decision by dropping Sven for Pearson (Pearson wasn't my first choice at the time but in hindsight it's looking a good call) but they appointed Sven in the first place which was a poor move. The money they're spending is just loans, I was pleased with the spending at first but it's actually got us nowhere.

We've made very little progress on the pitch in two years and for most of that time we've gone backwards and stagnated. As a result the mood of the fans has got worse up until very recently. Even now, with the team performing well, we can't be sure they weren't planning to make another reckless decision. In general, I get the impression from a lot, and for me personally, the fans are being valued less than ever, which is an issue.

I'm not trying to make out they're evil supervillains, but by my reckoning they've not really improved the club.

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Exactly. The problem is not that the Thais spoke to Redknapp.

The problem is that the Thais, or anybody else for that matter, thought that sacking the manager was a remotely reasonable reaction to a start to the season in which we had played some very good, entertaining football and not got the results we deserved.

In a low-scoring game like football, the role of luck (particularly in a small sample of games) is so great that it can distort the perception of the way that a match has gone.

Good post but maybe they didn't and they sat tight, but as it did not blow over knew they had to do something ?

Could one of the well informed fond out why they choose now to comment ? Now that us sarcasm

for you

Guest shearfox
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...seems at an all time low. Even lower than Mandaric! A report by the Daily Fail got everyone whipped up into such a frenzy, yet we are 2nd. A few years ago we would have laughed off this report. Just shows how little we seem to think about our owners. Do you trust them to make the best decisions for the football club? Are they EVEN less trustworthy than Mandaric?

I have no reason to not trust them, they are keeping quiet and just letting Pearson get on with his job, allowing Pearson to sign the players he wants not the players they want. They are backing Pearson and are doing good for the club in my view.

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Exactly. The problem is not that the Thais spoke to Redknapp.

The problem is that the Thais, or anybody else for that matter, thought that sacking the manager was a remotely reasonable reaction to a start to the season in which we had played some very good, entertaining football and not got the results we deserved.

In a low-scoring game like football, the role of luck (particularly in a small sample of games) is so great that it can distort the perception of the way that a match has gone.

They didn't sack Nigel Pearson. We don't even know if they spoke to Redknapp. Even if they did, being prepared is good for business. No-one knew we were going to win the last three. What if we'd have lost the last three and then the next two and were sitting bottom of the table, what if they'd sacked NP at that point without a replacement lined up? Sure as hell you'd be moaning then. Even if they did speak to Redknapp, which has been denied, there was nothing wrong with that given the situation we were in. They didn't sack NP so did show faith. You are using a false theoretical scenario to complain about the owners. You are moaning at them for doing things which never actually happened. Are you on drugs? Wake up bro.

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What if we'd have lost the last three and then the next two and were sitting bottom of the table, what if they'd sacked NP at that point without a replacement lined up?

You are using a false theoretical scenario to complain about the owners. You are moaning at them for doing things which never actually happened.

And you are using a false theoretical scenario to justify them going behind Pearson's back and trying to find someone to replace him with.

We've not lost 5 in a row, we've won 4 in a row, making them look foolish and your defence of them weak.

Guest shearfox
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And you are using a false theoretical scenario to justify them going behind Pearson's back and trying to find someone to replace him with.

We've not lost 5 in a row, we've won 4 in a row, making them look foolish and your defence of them weak.

To be honest, there isn't any evidence to say they did go behind Pearsons back, Redknapp denies it and so do the owners, sure that is what you would expect but what else could they say to make you think otherwise?

Guest Col city fan
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I'm going to have to disagree with you there Col. In what way does it look superb? Ok, they've done up the megastore, I wonder why?

But it's still a crap looking stadium, arguably even crapper with their company's name all over it and more empty seats. The stadium's going to take a lot of work to make it look 'superb'.

I think they made a good decision by dropping Sven for Pearson (Pearson wasn't my first choice at the time but in hindsight it's looking a good call) but they appointed Sven in the first place which was a poor move. The money they're spending is just loans, I was pleased with the spending at first but it's actually got us nowhere.

We've made very little progress on the pitch in two years and for most of that time we've gone backwards and stagnated. As a result the mood of the fans has got worse up until very recently. Even now, with the team performing well, we can't be sure they weren't planning to make another reckless decision. In general, I get the impression from a lot, and for me personally, the fans are being valued less than ever, which is an issue.

I'm not trying to make out they're evil supervillains, but by my reckoning they've not really improved the club.

I think we have a stadium to be proud of Kitch, I really do. The pitch is like a snooker baize, the big screens in the corners are grand for seeing repeats of all the lovely goals we are scoring and the empty seats... Well that's not a fault of the studium is it? That's down to two things IMO. Firstly, some dross football over recent times and secondly the pricing structure.

Tell you something... If we happen to get promotion this season I bet our ground will be nearly full for many games, even if prices go up further.

I have to agree with Davie G... If the team bring us success on the pitch, attendances will increase and the atmosphere will improve massively.

And we have a stadium which can hold its own in the Prem any day of the week.

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Why should we trust them, they have ultimate power of the club we all support, if there are rumours that they're going to do something detremental to the club then of course people are going to question them and want to be reassured that those rumours are rubbish. I don't trust the curent owners, not because they've given me any reason not to trust them, but becuase they have the future of the football club in their hands and so of course they're going to have to do a lot more than loan the club money and bring in a few high reputation players to earn people's trust. I'll feel a lot more trusting when they've been at the club 5-10 years, been sensible in terms of the financial state of the club and made sensible descisions. We shouldn't just trust them automatically because they're rich enough to own a football club, but I'm hopefull that they have the best interests of the club at heart as well as what's good for them.

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They didn't sack Nigel Pearson. We don't even know if they spoke to Redknapp. Even if they did, being prepared is good for business. No-one knew we were going to win the last three. What

if we'd have lost the last three and then the next two and were sitting bottom of the table, what if they'd sacked NP at that point without a replacement lined up? Sure as hell you'd be moaning then. Even if they did speak to Redknapp, which has been denied, there was

nothing wrong with that given the situation we were in. They didn't sack NP so did show faith. You are using a false theoretical scenario to complain about the owners. You are moaning at them for doing things which never actually happened. Are you on drugs? Wake up bro.

Not really sure where to start with this.

Firstly, there is no smoke without fire. I am pretty confident that Redknapp was sounded out about the job based on some things I've heard. I can't and won't elaborate further, so if you don't agree, that's fine.

Secondly, I agree that sounding out Redknapp if you were thinking of ditching Pearson is a sound approach from a business perspective. The last thing anyone wants is for us to waste 4 or 5 games with a caretaker.

Thirdly, you are the one creating a hypothetical scenario, saying "what if we lost 4 or 5 on the bounce?"

As I've repeatedly stated, and as is made clear to anybody who has any interest in engaging in the content of my post, what I'm angry about here is the fact that anybody, and especially the

Thais, could have thought that firing Pearson was going to be at all useful when we were playing some really good football.

Oh, and I absolutely would not be moaning if we took 6 points every 5 games playing inthe manner we had done in those first five games. I'd far rather see us play enterprising football and lose unluckily than stodgy football and bore our way to victory (survival permitting).

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To be honest, there isn't any evidence to say they did go behind Pearsons back, Redknapp denies it and so do the owners, sure that is what you would expect but what else could they say to make you think otherwise?

Pearson's agent said he had it on good authority that they'd spoken with him, they were asked about it and they didn't deny it, even in the statement they didn't flat out deny they hadn't spoken with him.

People like moosebreath are trying to say they would have been right to do so, which I don't agree with.

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Perhaps the owners are reading this forum!!!

After losing 3 away games the forum gave the impression the majority wanted Pearson to be replaced now after winning the last 4 games he is the best Manager in the league.

Most people on here must be aware Rednapp has said he only wants a Premier club and in the south of the country so if the owners did speak to him it would have been highly unlikely he would have come here so lets get on with it, give Pearson at least until the end of the season and see how the team is doing then. Even if we don't get promotion this season Pearson may still be the man for next season but on a positive note,

we will get promoted this season.

Leicester No1

Pearson No1

:pearson::scarf::thumbup:

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Yeah I've read the statement, but the fact they had to put one out shows no-one trusts them in the main. Even Pearsons agent was getting nervous. I was just wondering if our owners are liked or trusted by our fans, because it really doesn't seem so.

jeez they cant win..

we must have had what 10 pages off people wanting them to put a statement out, even though i dont feel they had any reason to and the media have been draggin it out. now they do put one out and so people are asking if there to be trusted because of it..

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Pearson's agent said he had it on good authority that they'd spoken with him, they were asked about it and they didn't deny it, even in the statement they didn't flat out deny they hadn't spoken with him.

People like moosebreath are trying to say they would have been right to do so, which I don't agree with.

thought he said he heard it form someone at the club who had been reliable before.. thats like bert, hes had reliable information before, but dont mean everything is fact..

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Perhaps the owners are reading this forum!!!

After losing 3 away games the forum gave the impression the majority wanted Pearson to be replaced

Apart from the poll that I'm sure we had which suggested something like 80% thought we'd be stupid to sack him at the time.

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jeez they cant win..

we must have had what 10 pages off people wanting them to put a statement out, even though i dont feel they had any reason to and the media have been draggin it out. now they do put one out and so people are asking if there to be trusted because of it..

I have no issue with them putting out a statement, not what I meant. My comments were purely about the fans reaction to the Daily Mail article. The worry it caused, for me, shows that we do not trust our owners NOT to sack a manager that is winning games. If we did, we wouldn't have cause such hysteria and forced them to make a statement.

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Why should we trust them, they have ultimate power of the club we all support, if there are rumours that they're going to do something detremental to the club then of course people are going to question them and want to be reassured that those rumours are rubbish. I don't trust the curent owners, not because they've given me any reason not to trust them, but becuase they have the future of the football club in their hands and so of course they're going to have to do a lot more than loan the club money and bring in a few high reputation players to earn people's trust. I'll feel a lot more trusting when they've been at the club 5-10 years, been sensible in terms of the financial state of the club and made sensible descisions. We shouldn't just trust them automatically because they're rich enough to own a football club, but I'm hopefull that they have the best interests of the club at heart as well as what's good for them.

Aren't they the ones who brought Pearson back to the club? Given the extreme pro-Pearson stance of most of your posts I'm surprised you can't bring yourself to give credit for that.

After two seasons of heavy losses, the Thais could easily have cut and run. Instead they stuck with the manager, gave him a decent transfer budget (one that most managers in the league would kill for) and let him sign the players he wanted. After some turbulent teething troubles, the results of that policy are now appearing to bear fruit.

Of course, even if we won the league this season, cut the ticket prices and made £20m profit for each of the next five years, there would still be some here who will never accept the idea of "gooks" in charge of the club. Such dinosaurs should be treated with the contempt they deserve.

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I think we have a stadium to be proud of Kitch, I really do. The pitch is like a snooker baize, the big screens in the corners are grand for seeing repeats of all the lovely goals we are scoring and the empty seats... Well that's not a fault of the studium is it? That's down to two things IMO. Firstly, some dross football over recent times and secondly the pricing structure.

Tell you something... If we happen to get promotion this season I bet our ground will be nearly full for many games, even if prices go up further.

I have to agree with Davie G... If the team bring us success on the pitch, attendances will increase and the atmosphere will improve massively.

And we have a stadium which can hold its own in the Prem any day of the week.

Me and you obviously just have different views on what makes a good stadium. :thumbup:

To me, the pitch and the screens are positives but they're not majorly important. Besides the pitch isn't really the stadium, that's just the playing surface, which, in fairness, is up there with the best in the country. Our stadium is bland and boring, looks far smaller and less impressive than 32,000 when you compare it to toher grounds of similar size and even some smaller ones, the seats are a horrible faded colour, and King Power is written all over it. That's just the aesthetics, I won't get in to the acoustics or the distance of the stands from the pitch. I realise we are not really in a position where they could make major positive changes right now because that would require an increase in capacity and a lot of money. But I hardly think they should be praised with making the stadium superb because I still think it's pretty shit.

The empty seats aren't the fault of the stadium no but it is partly the fault of the owners. They haven't taken into to account important factors which would have told them that attendances would drop this season.

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