hamptonfox Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 I have always looked on 70 points as the "magic barrier" to getting in the Play Offs and 20 Wins usually get you into that sort of total. The last 10 years bares this out, where no team has got into the Play Offs without accumulating 70 points or more (record of 6th placed team is between 70 points and 75 points) in the last decade with 8 years of the 10 the 6th placed team has 73-75 points. So whatever our fate this year, in any other year in the last decade we wouldn't have made the Play Offs with the points we have accumulated. That's backed up by the bottom teams already having record highs and someone will get relegated with 54-57 points this year (only 3 wins different to our points total). We have 11 points less than Pearsons side achieved when finishing 5th three years ago, and we have 2 points less than 2010/11 with Erikson and 1 point less than last year. Therefore its not good enough, its not getting better, and in a year when record lows are required we still look like we wont get enough!!! Anyone think the owners are going to keep on pumping the cash in to finish with 67 then 66 and now 65 points (+Forest match to go)? With relegated Prem clubs coming down, more and more laden with cash, it cold get tougher at the top in the next two or three years to get into the top 2. We missed a golden opportunity this year, I just don't know whether Pearson and his coaching staff are really "all that". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 There are a large number of teams who will be claiming exactly the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetintedspecs Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 All valid points Hampton! I have been saying for months I think it will be the lowest total points to reach play offs and crazily we still have a shout! Until the fat lady sings I will cling on to the belief it can happen. COYB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueBrett Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 Yeah and let's not forget that being a football manager is a really difficult job. Run some, gym some, stand in this shape, move in this pattern and kick it like this. Utterly boggling for all but the greatest minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuliasz Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 Can't say your theory is particularly sound. Say Barnsley or Posh go down in 22nd place, they will have had better seasons than last year because they have accumulated more points. The importance of the league position is more important the amount of points. If we don't make the playoffs, we will have marginally underachieved this year but every season is different and I don't particularly agree that comparing points over seasons is a good way of assessing performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamptonfox Posted 28 April 2013 Author Share Posted 28 April 2013 Too right. The greatest minds don't all become football coaches, or football club owners. Lets hope Palace blow out, and Bolton too, and we can push our way into the PO's with a win at Forest. It still feels like we were running on at least one flat tyre for the last 10 weeks, but maybe everyone else has been too. One last Hurrah. Still a very average season even c/w the Sven points totals - I honestly thought it would be so much better under Pearson, its 11 points worse (so far) then when Alex Bruce and Wayne Brown were at the back for us 3 yrs ago (frightening). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjslcfc Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 Think about it, we're going to have the record points tally for being relegated from the championship. More lower teams have taken more points, points are spread a lot more evenly across the league, so it's highly likely it will be a very low points tally for the play offs. There's still slight hope. At least we have something to play for last game, the excitement is still there as the nearly impossible could still happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamptonfox Posted 28 April 2013 Author Share Posted 28 April 2013 What else is there to assess a League Season other than points? Points are the TRUE Barometer of a League Season - its no better than the Erikson/Sousa/Pearson-part seasons over the last two years and much poorer than when we got 76 points with a worse group of players - three years ago. its points that get you promoted, not possession. The bottom teams have more points because the top teams are weaker, not the other way round. In reality too many of the better players we have are 2012/13 underachievers and the coaching staff too. We are 11 points better than the relegation zone - WOW that's impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedlock Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 This underlines the opportunity that has gone begging since January. You could say it's been a competitive league. It seems to me it's been mediocre....and City have lost too often against mediocre sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach0000 Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 Actually this shows what a hard league it has been this season. It means this season the sides at the bottom have been stronger and more likely to take points of the side at the top. So this could actually show that leicester haven't done as badly as people think seeming the quality in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritwalker Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 67pts, 66pts, and now 65pts, well on the bright side, at least it will take another 15yrs before we are relegated again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuliasz Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 What else is there to assess a League Season other than points? Points are the TRUE Barometer of a League Season - its no better than the Erikson/Sousa/Pearson-part seasons over the last two years and much poorer than when we got 76 points with a worse group of players - three years ago. its points that get you promoted, not possession. The bottom teams have more points because the top teams are weaker, not the other way round. In reality too many of the better players we have are 2012/13 underachievers and the coaching staff too. We are 11 points better than the relegation zone - WOW that's impressive! League position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedlock Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 It is bizarre,having shown relegation form since January ,that it is still mathematically possible for us to make the play-offs. ......funny old game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 It's a particularly competitive division is season which means it's harder to accumulate points, thus the points total needed is low. So other teams are struggling in the same way we are - it's a much more level playing field which affects everyone. The teams at the bottom are taking more points of those at the top which brings the points total down - it's not that those teams at they top are any worse than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 I have always looked on 70 points as the "magic barrier" to getting in the Play Offs and 20 Wins usually get you into that sort of total. The last 10 years bares this out, where no team has got into the Play Offs without accumulating 70 points or more (record of 6th placed team is between 70 points and 75 points) in the last decade with 8 years of the 10 the 6th placed team has 73-75 points. So whatever our fate this year, in any other year in the last decade we wouldn't have made the Play Offs with the points we have accumulated. That's backed up by the bottom teams already having record highs and someone will get relegated with 54-57 points this year (only 3 wins different to our points total). We have 11 points less than Pearsons side achieved when finishing 5th three years ago, and we have 2 points less than 2010/11 with Erikson and 1 point less than last year. Therefore its not good enough, its not getting better, and in a year when record lows are required we still look like we wont get enough!!! Anyone think the owners are going to keep on pumping the cash in to finish with 67 then 66 and now 65 points (+Forest match to go)? With relegated Prem clubs coming down, more and more laden with cash, it cold get tougher at the top in the next two or three years to get into the top 2. We missed a golden opportunity this year, I just don't know whether Pearson and his coaching staff are really "all that". fair points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 28 April 2013 Share Posted 28 April 2013 Competitive levels at historic highs is the reason you get points levels at historic lows. Not really surprising that everyone struggles is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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