Rincewind Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 . He went so they could assess his right to benefits. No doubt if he had been seen and was able to lift an arm he would have been declared fi. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Man-wheelchair-labelled-hazard/story-19342242-detail/story.html
Ross-Kemp Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 Why is it a farce ? He's in a wheelchair, what would happen if there was a fire ? Non story.
Rincewind Posted 27 June 2013 Author Posted 27 June 2013 If he was told that he was able to work and said he was unable to because of the wheelchair he would have been san ctioned. Yhis is the Centre that accesses peoples ability to work and do noy have facilities for disabled workers which is law in most places.
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 A spokeswoman for Atos, who carry out medical assessments for disability benefit claims, said: “We let people know about access prior to scheduling appointments to try to ensure no one goes to a centre that is not appropriate for them. If people can't be bothered to read and check correspondence then why should I have any sympathy for them?
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 They probably thought he was a fire risk as he is the double of Mick Philpott not because of his wheelchair.
Rincewind Posted 27 June 2013 Author Posted 27 June 2013 They probably thought he was a fire risk as he is the double of Mick Philpott not because of his wheelchair. So people with disabilities do not deserve respect and rights?
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 So people with disabilities do not deserve respect and rights? Rights - absolutely. Respect - No, you earn respect whether you are able bodied, disabled, blind, black, white, yellow, rich or poor. Going to your local newspaper to moan about a place throwing you out because of your wheelchair when you couldn't be bothered to read a letter whilst actually also admitting you can 'walk a bit' probably won't help your cause in a lot of peoples eyes.
ADK Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 It is pretty bad, they are an agency supposed to assess the disabled but they have no wheelchair access? Surely that can't be right?
Rincewind Posted 27 June 2013 Author Posted 27 June 2013 It is pretty bad, they are an agency supposed to assess the disabled but they have no wheelchair access? Surely that can't be right? That is the point that I was making. The Goverment is going on about the disabled should be assessed like others yet they do not have facilities.
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 It is pretty bad, they are an agency supposed to assess the disabled but they have no wheelchair access? Surely that can't be right? Not every building has wheelchair access. It takes time to install if you haven't and it's expensive. Therefore they made sure people in wheelchairs shouldn't go to that centre and instead use a different one. He couldn't bothered to read that could he? I hope he loses his benefits for stupidity.
stix Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 They probably thought he was a fire risk as he is the double of Mick Philpott not because of his wheelchair. I'm sorry but I can't let this just get buried into the thread without lol lol lol
MooseBreath Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 If this cherry picked and tactically interpreted article is the worst example of supposed 'mistreatment' of a disabled person you can find then all that says to me is that everything seems almost suspiciously rosy. It's also a bit offensive to all the people who have actually committed their own time and effort towards improving things like disabled access to then have scumbags whinging and moaning and trying to get compensation because not every little thing is perfect. In truth people have bent over backwards to make things better for disabled people in this country (not in a showing off way) and I bet if you asked some respectable disabled people about their experiences instead of that degenerate scum you would get a much more positive story.
ADK Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 Not every building has wheelchair access. It takes time to install if you haven't and it's expensive. Therefore they made sure people in wheelchairs shouldn't go to that centre and instead use a different one. He couldn't bothered to read that could he? I hope he loses his benefits for stupidity. We don't really know. He claims they didn't mention it. They did a home visit in the end so there was no alternative centre. I still find it strange to use a building with no disabled access for a disability assessment.
Zingari Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 Not every building has wheelchair access. It takes time to install if you haven't and it's expensive. Therefore they made sure people in wheelchairs shouldn't go to that centre and instead use a different one. He couldn't bothered to read that could he? I hope he loses his benefits for stupidity. Why put a disability assessment centre in a building with poor disability access ? Doesn't that seem a pretty stupid thing to do in the first place ?
MooseBreath Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 Why put a disability assessment centre in a building with poor disability access ? Doesn't that seem a pretty stupid thing to do in the first place ? What percentage of disabilities for which people claim benefits require good disabled access?
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 Why put a disability assessment centre in a building with poor disability access ? Doesn't that seem a pretty stupid thing to do in the first place ? Not reall, as I understand it a lot of people are being assessed. They might not enough wheelchair accesable places, if that's the case it would be sensible to use somewhere else and divert the ones not on wheels to that place.
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 We don't really know. He claims they didn't mention it. I read, just before the bit where we find out he can walk a bit. Wonder who I believe?
Rincewind Posted 27 June 2013 Author Posted 27 June 2013 The bloke that does a hour spot on DNO's radio show brought this up. He is a campaigner for disabled rights. He is in a wheelchair homself. The battery do not last the same in each model so making a trip out of town would be difficult. He has to jave a PA to drive him around which costs money. He thought it was a strange story. I only went into the studio as he was finishing commenting so do not know his true thoughts.
Zingari Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 What percentage of disabilities for which people claim benefits require good disabled access? I really have no idea , but surely if you are an agency specifically utilised to assess disabilities , the first thing anyone with an ounce of sense would do is to ensure good access .
MooseBreath Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 I really have no idea , but surely if you are an agency specifically utilised to assess disabilities , the first thing anyone with an ounce of sense would do is to ensure good access . Depends on the disabilities we're talking about. There are a lot of disabilities which don't involve a wheelchair. I suspect the place where people with 'wheelchair disabilities' get assessed does indeed have good wheelchair access. This place doesn't deal with wheelchair claims so doesn't need the access. All you need to do is make sure you inform the claimer where they need to go, which it sounds like they did but the claimer couldn't be bothered to read it.
Zingari Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 I'd imagine mobility problems are pretty common. Quite so , if they couldn't envisage the likelihood of a disability centre encountering people with mobility problems it pretty much sums their ineptitude .
Rincewind Posted 27 June 2013 Author Posted 27 June 2013 The chap who does the radio spot can walk a little but only with a walking frame Does not mean he can run a four minute mile or negotiate himself around a building that sole purpose is to access his ability to negotiate himself around a buildings that has disability access.
Zingari Posted 27 June 2013 Posted 27 June 2013 Depends on the disabilities we're talking about. There are a lot of disabilities which don't involve a wheelchair. I suspect the place where people with 'wheelchair disabilities' get assessed does indeed have good wheelchair access. This place doesn't deal with wheelchair claims so doesn't need the access. All you need to do is make sure you inform the claimer where they need to go, which it sounds like they did but the claimer couldn't be bothered to read it. Surely when he filled in the forms to claim , he would have told them he had mobility problems , and had to use a wheelchair ,
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