Leicfox Posted 29 June 2013 Posted 29 June 2013 Why? I've seen plenty of stories were Atos have declared very sick people fit to work then for them to go and die. That to me comes under this http://www.hse.gov.uk/corpmanslaughter/index.htm, although it would never happen in our corrupt courts.
Webbo Posted 29 June 2013 Posted 29 June 2013 I've seen plenty of stories were Atos have declared very sick people fit to work then for them to go and die. That to me comes under this http://www.hse.gov.uk/corpmanslaughter/index.htm, although it would never happen in our corrupt courts. People who have never been seen by atos die too. Unless someone has died in an industrial accident caused by their disability I don't see how it can be called manslaughter. Even then it's a bit iffy.
Rincewind Posted 30 June 2013 Author Posted 30 June 2013 Well as moose would say they probably caused it themselves by living it up down the pub when not working.
MPH Posted 30 June 2013 Posted 30 June 2013 Yes but he turned up at the wrong building. You can't just pick and choose where you want to go for these things. He was given an address for a place with wheelchair access but he ignored it and went somewhere else. He might as well have had himself hoisted to the top of the shard and made the same complaint from there. Would have been just as valid. Really cant be bothered to read the article again but didn't his wife offer to take the wheelchair back to his car? He can walk short distances she said so could of managed...
Saxondale Posted 1 July 2013 Posted 1 July 2013 One sided? I give my view based on the people that I have met who have worked and been through the system not newspaper headlines or an Ian Beale portrayal.
Rincewind Posted 2 July 2013 Author Posted 2 July 2013 Don't know how that relates to the topic. It does show how opinions can be swayed. I must say though the present storyline in EE is being dealt with well. I've noticed there are no disabled characters in soaps. Maybe because most of the scenes are shot in pubs which do not have ramps.
Zingari Posted 2 July 2013 Posted 2 July 2013 Don't know how that relates to the topic. It does show how opinions can be swayed. I must say though the present storyline in EE is being dealt with well. I've noticed there are no disabled characters in soaps. Maybe because most of the scenes are shot in pubs which do not have ramps. There's a girl in Corry in a Wheelchair (Izzy , I think her name is)
Guest MattP Posted 2 July 2013 Posted 2 July 2013 Phoenix Nights did more for disabled people than Stephen Hawking.
Zingari Posted 2 July 2013 Posted 2 July 2013 little Britain's Andy Pitkin earned wheelchair users huge respect .
Rincewind Posted 2 July 2013 Author Posted 2 July 2013 There's a girl in Corry in a Wheelchair (Izzy , I think her name is) I stand corrected. I don't watch Corrie. Anyway I think this thread is exhausted now. However I believe there are many more stories of cock ups by ATOS if anyone wants to do a search. I can't be bothered and I have been over doing it and need to leave it be.
Guest MattP Posted 2 July 2013 Posted 2 July 2013 I stand corrected. I don't watch Corrie. Anyway I think this thread is exhausted now. However I believe there are many more stories of cock ups by ATOS if anyone wants to do a search. I can't be bothered and I have been over doing it and need to leave it be. You get some rest you sound like you have had a hard day.
Zingari Posted 2 July 2013 Posted 2 July 2013 You get some rest you sound like you have had a hard day. That's a bit below the belt ! shame on you !
Rincewind Posted 2 July 2013 Author Posted 2 July 2013 That's a bit below the belt ! shame on you ! No worries It was quite funny. I am a changed man. I just hope I can keep it up after being hit below the belt.
Guest MattP Posted 2 July 2013 Posted 2 July 2013 That's a bit below the belt ! shame on you ! He knows I'm only kidding.
Zingari Posted 2 July 2013 Posted 2 July 2013 He knows I'm only kidding. i think we've sussed you out now
charlie 9 Posted 1 August 2013 Posted 1 August 2013 The reading of information on forms is surely a basic necessity. My partner who works at Wycombe Hospital, is forever having people turn up, when the appointment letter clearly states it is elsewhere. It's people's incorrect assumptions that are the root cause of so many such problems. Iam the person that you are all slagging off, it said bring all medication and medical aids and did not say any thing about not going in a wheel chairs DWP new 2 months before that i would have to use one when i got there because of the pain , people think i am scronger but i do not claim any thing else i have to pay for anything i have medication, glass's,teeth, everything. If i could do a part time job i would get more money , what the hell do people think i can do with prolaps disc's in the neck and base of spine pressing onto the spinal cord with sciatica in leg hands and feet . so don't call me a scrauner like some of the others on this web site if i could work i would my wife and daughter work full time ,i went by all the information i was told and we were even helped into the room by there staff who never said anything about me being in a wheel chair until we got to the desk in the waiting room
RobHawk Posted 1 August 2013 Posted 1 August 2013 Iam the person that you are all slagging off, it said bring all medication and medical aids and did not say any thing about not going in a wheel chairs DWP new 2 months before that i would have to use one when i got there because of the pain , people think i am scronger but i do not claim any thing else i have to pay for anything i have medication, glass's,teeth, everything. If i could do a part time job i would get more money , what the hell do people think i can do with prolaps disc's in the neck and base of spine pressing onto the spinal cord with sciatica in leg hands and feet . so don't call me a scrauner like some of the others on this web site if i could work i would my wife and daughter work full time ,i went by all the information i was told and we were even helped into the room by there staff who never said anything about me being in a wheel chair until we got to the desk in the waiting room To be fair if you read all the comments the forum gives quite a balanced view of the situation overall! Also we could only base some things on what were in the article so knowing exactly what was and wasn't in the letter was not something we knew but could only speculate. Finally, you will always get some complete idiots spouting nonsense so don't get upset! There's plenty of balance in the thread due to the people who support you rather than have a go!
Zingari Posted 1 August 2013 Posted 1 August 2013 Iam the person that you are all slagging off, it said bring all medication and medical aids and did not say any thing about not going in a wheel chairs DWP new 2 months before that i would have to use one when i got there because of the pain , people think i am scronger but i do not claim any thing else i have to pay for anything i have medication, glass's,teeth, everything. If i could do a part time job i would get more money , what the hell do people think i can do with prolaps disc's in the neck and base of spine pressing onto the spinal cord with sciatica in leg hands and feet . so don't call me a scrauner like some of the others on this web site if i could work i would my wife and daughter work full time ,i went by all the information i was told and we were even helped into the room by there staff who never said anything about me being in a wheel chair until we got to the desk in the waiting room Good to hear from you . We aren't all slagging you (or anyone else) off . Many of us do recognise problems caused by ill health aren't always so readily apparent . Many of us sympathise and realise your predicament is tough best o' luck edit ; the last person on this forum to quote as an example of the attitude of the forum is "Dangerous Tiger" . He seems a nice enough bloke , but not the most diplomatic if you catch my drift
Captain... Posted 1 August 2013 Posted 1 August 2013 Iam the person that you are all slagging off, it said bring all medication and medical aids and did not say any thing about not going in a wheel chairs DWP new 2 months before that i would have to use one when i got there because of the pain , people think i am scronger but i do not claim any thing else i have to pay for anything i have medication, glass's,teeth, everything. If i could do a part time job i would get more money , what the hell do people think i can do with prolaps disc's in the neck and base of spine pressing onto the spinal cord with sciatica in leg hands and feet . so don't call me a scrauner like some of the others on this web site if i could work i would my wife and daughter work full time ,i went by all the information i was told and we were even helped into the room by there staff who never said anything about me being in a wheel chair until we got to the desk in the waiting room Fair play for posting, what you have to realise is that this forum has a number of trolls, some who paticularly like winding up Rincewind, so don't take the comments personally it was more to get a reaction out of other posters. If you read a few other threads you will see a lot boil down to the "scrounger debate".
Guest MattP Posted 1 August 2013 Posted 1 August 2013 Come on then own up, wheres Moosebreath?! No scrauners or scrongers in here.
Captain... Posted 1 August 2013 Posted 1 August 2013 Come on then own up, wheres Moosebreath?! No scrauners or scrongers in here. If that was Moose he is probably in the shower scrubbing himself after posting that.
Leicfox Posted 1 August 2013 Posted 1 August 2013 I was just reading an article regarding ATOS and this thread popped up at the top so I'll post a link... http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mum-of-three-elenore-told-find-job-2074333 It's just another example of many who have been subjected to; Atrocious Treatment Of Sick = ATOS.
charlie 9 Posted 1 August 2013 Posted 1 August 2013 Fair play for posting, what you have to realise is that this forum has a number of trolls, some who paticularly like winding up Rincewind, so don't take the comments personally it was more to get a reaction out of other posters. If you read a few other threads you will see a lot boil down to the "scrounger debate". thanks for the comments but didn't like the one that said i looked like Mick Philpott bastard he was ----but if you are on the receiving end of all the abuse i have had form people not just on this forum you wouldn't like it . i have has social services out was ready to commit suicide because of this hassle had disabilty taken away two and half years ago and still fighting DWP because of atoss lies. but thanks for your kind words
Zingari Posted 1 August 2013 Posted 1 August 2013 Atos chief's £280k pay rise adds insult to injury for the disabled tricked out of their benefits It is sickening that the boss of benefits assessment firm Atos has received a huge pay rise while his company inflicts misery on thousands of disabled people HANDS up who thinks the boss of Atos is worth a £280,000 pay rise after helping to heap misery on thousands of disabled people? Don’t worry, that wasn’t one of Atos’s own tests to see if by raising your hand you can be declared fit for work. The French firm are the face of the ÂGovernment’s fitness for work tests, who cut the benefits from disabled claimants by declaring them able to work, sometimes regardless of what the person being Âinterviewed tells them. The tests are devised to move people off benefits – a good thing – but manages to do so with less respect for those concerned than an average battery hen receives. Still, someone must think chief executive Thierry Breton is worth his salt, even if the way his company run the disabled work tests is questionable. The failure of the Atos-run system is clear in the 40 per cent success rate of appeals that overturn the original decisions. full article http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/record-view-atos-chiefs-280k-1985526
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