SilverFox Posted 23 August 2004 Posted 23 August 2004 I was gutted after the Watford defeat, and I acknowledge there are problems at the club, but in the same breath I still believe in Micky Adams!!!! No money, reliance on free transfers, on and off the pitch drama. The guy has put up with more than any manager has had to, or even should have to. Judge him when we are 10-12 games in and the squad has had a chance to settle...judge him after he has had a chance to field his first choise 11. Remember Dublin, Makin, Tiatto have not yet had a chance to play together in the same team yet! How quickly some of you forget how Micky got us promoted in times of turmoil. Times when we could have ceased to exist as a club (Administration). You are all so quick to criticise the only man who stood up for Leicester through the La Manga affair. He put himself right in the firing line (press conferences etc) and took all the crap he didn't need to take. All of these things show something that only a few human being pocess...charecter. I'd like to see some of you cope with those pressures. He is still a good manager, Still highly rated by his peers, and still Someone I believe in! If there is anyone on this forum who wants to question this fair enough, but I warn you to reserve your judgements for a few games because I am convinced that you will look a fool when we get promoted and you have been calling for his head four games into the season. I remeber when people were calling for O'Neill's head...and that man didn't have to put up with half of what MA has had to put up with. He even had some money to spend! I know I will take flack for this post but I really don't care because at least I believe in something, and at least I'm willing to stand up and say I do, instead of jumping on the Adams out bandwagon. SUPPORT in difficult times. United we will stand, divided we WILL fall. MICKY ADAMS
SilverFox Posted 23 August 2004 Author Posted 23 August 2004 WELL SAID SILVERFOX!! 14570[/snapback] I guess we will be the only springs of hope then
andy_croydz Posted 23 August 2004 Posted 23 August 2004 I agree mate give him time he got us up the first time last time we was in this division petrescu thinks diffrent tho
SilverFox Posted 23 August 2004 Author Posted 23 August 2004 I agree mate give him time he got us up the first time last time we was in this division petrescu thinks diffrent tho 14576[/snapback] Well I'm sure when Petrescu has his coaching medals, has got Leicester promoted and has kept them in the premiership he will be qualified to criticise Only joking Petrescu...I just know how irratable you can be on this subject. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, as I am mine...I believe and I'm glad I'm not the only one!
Mad Dog Posted 23 August 2004 Posted 23 August 2004 I agree with you SilverFox. The problem here is that the average age is about 15/16, and they don't really have a clue about football, they've just been spoilt with the MoN era and so expect us to be that good again now. They only represent a minority of City fans, so don't let your head drop. You know as well as I do that there isn't anyone close to as good as Adams available to take over. Have you seen the suggestions those kids have been making? Jesus christ, Strachan & McAllister are the best they've come up with. I don't quite understand what goes through those little heads of theres
Guest Daniel Posted 23 August 2004 Posted 23 August 2004 I agree with you SilverFox.The problem here is that the average age is about 15/16, and they don't really have a clue about football, they've just been spoilt with the MoN era and so expect us to be that good again now. They only represent a minority of City fans, so don't let your head drop. You know as well as I do that there isn't anyone close to as good as Adams available to take over. Have you seen the suggestions those kids have been making? Jesus christ, Strachan & McAllister are the best they've come up with. I don't quite understand what goes through those little heads of theres Thats right, were all young, we all know nothing. Why come here? Petrescu has probably forgot more than you know about the game.
Rachel - WCF Posted 23 August 2004 Posted 23 August 2004 I agree with you SilverFox.The problem here is that the average age is about 15/16, and they don't really have a clue about football, they've just been spoilt with the MoN era and so expect us to be that good again now. They only represent a minority of City fans, so don't let your head drop. You know as well as I do that there isn't anyone close to as good as Adams available to take over. Have you seen the suggestions those kids have been making? Jesus christ, Strachan & McAllister are the best they've come up with. I don't quite understand what goes through those little heads of theres 14590[/snapback] spot on Mad Dog nobodys gonna touch this club thanks to all the problems we've had in the past everyone needs to chill all be ok in the end!!
kerryh Posted 23 August 2004 Posted 23 August 2004 We do have problems and it's the easiest thing in the world to blame it on MA. If he was a proven failure I too would be calling for his head - but he's had two bloody tough seasons with us, the first he got us automatic promotion against all odds. Last season we buggered it - but with no money spent we didn't expect to stay up. This season after FOUR games, people are calling for his head. A few weeks ago there were alot of excited people saying how well MA had bought, give the team a chance, we've played four games out of 46 and three of those were bloody tough ones. Let's back our team and our manager - look at the confidence boost we gave Benji at the Derby game, teams thrive on fans support we need to start showing it.
Mark Posted 23 August 2004 Posted 23 August 2004 Its all good and well saying that if it makes you feel better but lets get back to reality. I aint happy one bit. I thought pre season we had a pretty decent squad and i was looking forward to seeing them perform. Never did i imagine what the first 4 games would bring! We have the quality of players to play decent football but it aint happening. We got three midfielders in Nalis, Joey & Williams who are passing midfielders. Yet we cant seem to move away from hoofing it up the field EVERY time. Now if you still enjoy watching this after all these years fair enough Silverfox. But there has to come a time that it ends cause its becoming a joke. Mad_Dog, this site isnt full of 15/16 year olds, check General Chat for proof of that before you start slagging the site off.
SilverFox Posted 23 August 2004 Author Posted 23 August 2004 Its all good and well saying that if it makes you feel better but lets get back to reality. I aint happy one bit. I thought pre season we had a pretty decent squad and i was looking forward to seeing them perform. Never did i imagine what the first 4 games would bring! We have the quality of players to play decent football but it aint happening. We got three midfielders in Nalis, Joey & Williams who are passing midfielders. Yet we cant seem to move away from hoofing it up the field EVERY time. Now if you still enjoy watching this after all these years fair enough Silverfox. But there has to come a time that it ends cause its becoming a joke.Mad_Dog, this site isnt full of 15/16 year olds, check General Chat for proof of that before you start slagging the site off. 14606[/snapback] I never said I enjoyed watching longball football. I'm a Republic of Ireland fan...I've seen enough of it to last a lifetime (though thankfully we are growing out of it now). I just know that we are beginning from year 0 again. We live in a culture where people want things now, or even yesterday...thats why we got into trouble (administration)because we tried to buy that dream with Taylor...look where we got with that. It takes time to make a team (which Micky has done), and it takes just as much time to make it work. Lets be a bit patient and allow things to settle and gel. If it hasn't worked itself out in a month or so you can worry. I like you was disgusted with what happened at the weekend, but I haven't got my flaming tourch out to hunt any witches just yet. I don't think mad dog was slagging off your site. He is probably much like me because: I believe that children are our future Teach them well and let them lead the way Show them all the beauty they possess inside Give them a sense of pride to make it easier Let the children's laughter Remind us how we used to be Just feckin with ya, you kids know S*it
SilverFox Posted 23 August 2004 Author Posted 23 August 2004 I agree with you SilverFox.The problem here is that the average age is about 15/16, and they don't really have a clue about football, they've just been spoilt with the MoN era and so expect us to be that good again now. They only represent a minority of City fans, so don't let your head drop. You know as well as I do that there isn't anyone close to as good as Adams available to take over. Have you seen the suggestions those kids have been making? Jesus christ, Strachan & McAllister are the best they've come up with. I don't quite understand what goes through those little heads of theres Thats right, were all young, we all know nothing. Why come here? Petrescu has probably forgot more than you know about the game. 14595[/snapback] For intellegent debate chill your beans matey...theres no need in getting those hormones of yours in a twist. Remeber we are all Leicester fans, we all want the team to do well! Equally we are entitled to our opinions as you are yours. Oh and I was was a teacher, and there are many bright and wonderful kids out there...you aren't one, but keep trying...jokes...see there you go again getting all wound up over nothing Oh and on Petrescu's memory problem, I hope that gets better
SilverFox Posted 23 August 2004 Author Posted 23 August 2004 We do have problems and it's the easiest thing in the world to blame it on MA.If he was a proven failure I too would be calling for his head - but he's had two bloody tough seasons with us, the first he got us automatic promotion against all odds. Last season we buggered it - but with no money spent we didn't expect to stay up. This season after FOUR games, people are calling for his head. A few weeks ago there were alot of excited people saying how well MA had bought, give the team a chance, we've played four games out of 46 and three of those were bloody tough ones. Let's back our team and our manager - look at the confidence boost we gave Benji at the Derby game, teams thrive on fans support we need to start showing it. 14604[/snapback] Spot on Kerry, as fans (I mean the stadium as a whole, because I know many of you sing all match long) we were terrible. There was more noise in the local Library. The Walkers is too easy a place to come to...we need to somehow create an atmosphere so that teams will find it harder to play us at home. Lets all take a bit of responcibility and sing our hearts out for the lads!
Micky Posted 23 August 2004 Posted 23 August 2004 I agree with you SilverFox.The problem here is that the average age is about 15/16, and they don't really have a clue about football, they've just been spoilt with the MoN era and so expect us to be that good again now. They only represent a minority of City fans, so don't let your head drop. You know as well as I do that there isn't anyone close to as good as Adams available to take over. Have you seen the suggestions those kids have been making? Jesus christ, Strachan & McAllister are the best they've come up with. I don't quite understand what goes through those little heads of theres Thats right, were all young, we all know nothing. Why come here? Petrescu has probably forgot more than you know about the game. 14595[/snapback] For intellegent debate chill your beans matey...theres no need in getting those hormones of yours in a twist. Remeber we are all Leicester fans, we all want the team to do well! Equally we are entitled to our opinions as you are yours. Oh and I was was a teacher, and there are many bright and wonderful kids out there...you aren't one, but keep trying...jokes...see there you go again getting all wound up over nothing Oh and on Petrescu's memory problem, I hope that gets better 14626[/snapback] Absolutely spot on!
shelly Posted 23 August 2004 Posted 23 August 2004 Spot on Kerry, as fans (I mean the stadium as a whole, because I know many of you sing all match long) we were terrible. There was more noise in the local Library. The Walkers is too easy a place to come to...we need to somehow create an atmosphere so that teams will find it harder to play us at home.Lets all take a bit of responcibility and sing our hearts out for the lads! 14649[/snapback] But Tiatto said on the phone-in how he thought it was a great atmosphere!!
SilverFox Posted 23 August 2004 Author Posted 23 August 2004 Spot on Kerry, as fans (I mean the stadium as a whole, because I know many of you sing all match long) we were terrible. There was more noise in the local Library. The Walkers is too easy a place to come to...we need to somehow create an atmosphere so that teams will find it harder to play us at home. Lets all take a bit of responcibility and sing our hearts out for the lads! 14649[/snapback] But Tiatto said on the phone-in how he thought it was a great atmosphere!! 14661[/snapback] Yeah but he played for man city before and they are poo ...Sorry! Terrible atmosphere I thought
Ric Flair Posted 24 August 2004 Posted 24 August 2004 Its all good and well saying that if it makes you feel better but lets get back to reality. I aint happy one bit. I thought pre season we had a pretty decent squad and i was looking forward to seeing them perform. Never did i imagine what the first 4 games would bring! We have the quality of players to play decent football but it aint happening. We got three midfielders in Nalis, Joey & Williams who are passing midfielders. Yet we cant seem to move away from hoofing it up the field EVERY time. Now if you still enjoy watching this after all these years fair enough Silverfox. But there has to come a time that it ends cause its becoming a joke.Mad_Dog, this site isnt full of 15/16 year olds, check General Chat for proof of that before you start slagging the site off. 14606[/snapback] I never said I enjoyed watching longball football. I'm a Republic of Ireland fan...I've seen enough of it to last a lifetime (though thankfully we are growing out of it now). I just know that we are beginning from year 0 again. We live in a culture where people want things now, or even yesterday...thats why we got into trouble (administration)because we tried to buy that dream with Taylor...look where we got with that. It takes time to make a team (which Micky has done), and it takes just as much time to make it work. Lets be a bit patient and allow things to settle and gel. If it hasn't worked itself out in a month or so you can worry. I like you was disgusted with what happened at the weekend, but I haven't got my flaming tourch out to hunt any witches just yet. I don't think mad dog was slagging off your site. He is probably much like me because: I believe that children are our future Teach them well and let them lead the way Show them all the beauty they possess inside Give them a sense of pride to make it easier Let the children's laughter Remind us how we used to be Just feckin with ya, you kids know S*it 14625[/snapback] It does take time to build a football team and looking back at Adams record he has done remarkably well, with the exception of last season. I was Adams biggest fan up until midway through last season, when he continued to make the same mistakes and looks as though he still hasn't learnt from them. Now it would be very foolish of me to completely write Micky Adams off as I have a sneaky feeling there's still life in the man, but also I can't just keep saying 'give it time'. At present we aren't performing well at all, we haven't for a year or so. Granted, we were in the best league in the world last season but the manner we lost points was hard to except irrespective of whether we genuinly had a strong enough team to stay up. When a team doesn't have any money, they have got to look at all aspects of the club to try and achieve the best they can and at the minute I am unsure whether Adams is capable of doing this. He's made a decision again this season to bring in experience that might get us back up, might give us some money to then move up a gear, the word might is being used there. He could of said he was going to knock the whole foundations down and completely re-build them, taking 3 or 4 years. Either way if we didn't succeed there isn't going to be many City fans who would be happy with the goings on. We have been brainwashed by the O'Neill era (myself more than most, no doubt) and us as fans struggle to accept that we aren't the force we once were, but again I don't think this is wrong or a bad thing. There isn't a reason why we can't get things right and get back where we belong and I hope Adams can do this for us. My problem I have with him is the fact he doesn't learn from his mistakes and seems quite arrogant in his ways. When we don't have any money and one of the best academy teams in the region it makes sense to try and develop some of these youngsters in to your team, I have seen no evidence of this happening and again without going in to whether they are good enough or not I honestly think that doesn't matter to Adams. He signs some players without much knowledge of them, panic buying to fill the squad, then his excuse when they fail is that they were free transfers and they are always a gamble. Adams is going to be criticised when things aren't going right, that's inevitable. The problem is there are so many theories and solutions as to why we aren't performing, it's so complex and that's what makes being a football manager such a tough job. I say let's get behind him as much as we can, but not hide from giving your opinion if things continue to go wrong. Things need to change though, the style of play we incorporate isn't working, we have several players who don't suit the direct football we play yet instead of playing to these players strengths we continue to play this horrible hoof ball and then the fans blame the players such as Williams, Gudjonsson and Connolly for not performing when the ball just sails straight over their heads the majority of the time. That's another debate though, at the end of the day if hoof ball worked every team would play like that. Keep The Faith - For now.
dhermon Posted 24 August 2004 Posted 24 August 2004 Spot on Kerry, as fans (I mean the stadium as a whole, because I know many of you sing all match long) we were terrible. There was more noise in the local Library. The Walkers is too easy a place to come to...we need to somehow create an atmosphere so that teams will find it harder to play us at home. Lets all take a bit of responcibility and sing our hearts out for the lads! 14649[/snapback] But Tiatto said on the phone-in how he thought it was a great atmosphere!! 14661[/snapback] well he has to say that now dont he think about it. it was a dumb question in the first place. he was never going to say the place suxed on the weekend, well not in his first game there oh and i will swear listening on radio there was more noise when watford scored than i heard all day.
Connolly!!! Posted 24 August 2004 Posted 24 August 2004 At least give Micky till after the QPR game. That will be the 10th game of the season, and if we are still in the bottom half and playing like we did on Saturday, then it might be time to look at changing the manager. Four games in is abit early, especially as we still haven't fielded our first choice 11 due to suspensions to Dublin, Tiatto and Makin, and the fact that Connolly has had 4 different stike partners in 4 games doesn't help matters either. Is anyone going to Wolves on Saturday? I am taking my girlfriend to her first City game, and I expect the return of Dion to give her a winning start as a City fan.
Scow Posted 24 August 2004 Posted 24 August 2004 I'll be going Wolves on Saturday - But will be sitting in the press box for this one as I'm reporting for the BBC. I would rather be in the stands, but this will be a good experience for me - Might even get to meet Matt Jones, one of my all time favourite LCFC players. :: I have just read this thread for the first time - And I agree with everything Silverfox has said - Some very good points made, along with the likes of Kerry and Mad Dog. What I will say to Mad Dog is - If you percieve this forum to be full of 15/16 year olds, and you have a problem against that, why do you post on here? I personally think you make a good contribution to the forum, but you always seem to have a dig against the younger members. Just because a few people on here have grown up in the MON era, it doesn't mean to say that their view can not be taken in to account.
Scow Posted 24 August 2004 Posted 24 August 2004 Scowy, do you agree with what Hoof said? 14770[/snapback] Yes Hoofy, I agree with some of the points you made.
Guest Daniel Posted 24 August 2004 Posted 24 August 2004 What I will say to Mad Dog is - If you percieve this forum to be full of 15/16 year olds, and you have a problem against that, why do you post on here? I personally think you make a good contribution to the forum, but you always seem to have a dig against the younger members. Just because a few people on here have grown up in the MON era, it doesn't mean to say that their view can not be taken in to account. That is excatly what i have been thinking and was going to post, but im trying to advoid arguments and shit like that. Great post Scowy and congratulations in getting a place in the BBC ofice.
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