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I believe that first and second generation migrants from the ex-Empire saw themselves as British, or British-Indian, British-Jamaican, but almost never English. That's changed in recent years, partially due to football to be honest. I would dissolve the union just to avoid all this confusion. I see myself as English and would like a passport that says the same thing, though that seems unlikely to happen in my lifetime.

I think we're mixing up all sorts of things here. There is citizenship and there is ethnicity. Then there are names, which are linguistic (sounds like your mates name will probably be English), and now you're bringing in 'nationality'. For all I know the attacker may feel ethnically Welsh, maybe speaks some Welsh. Maybe not.

hmm, that's not how I understood that document tbh.

I seem to vaguely remember Balotelli getting citizenship on his 18th birthday.

Would have the option, but not automatically. Also maybe I'm reading it wrong but you need to also live there until you're 18: "Babies born in Italy from parents holding a permit of stay will get a family permit ('permesso di soggiorno per motivi familiari' in Italian)."

I am sure being born in the UK like a lot of countries doesn't automatically make you a citizen. There are tourists, immigrants working on short term contracts, etc. If my girlfriend and I went to Italy to teach for a year and she gave birth there, the kid wouldn't be an Italian citizen, nor would we want it to be.

If there is a Welsh citizenship test I'm taking it

Only one of those that's 'British' is Welsh

Well technically UK is GB + NI. GB was used up until I would say the early 2000s to mean the UK, I am sure. Now it's rarely used. watch speeches by say Tony Blair and Keir Starmer.

I don't think there is Welsh citizenship but I am not an expert on devolution and such stuff Also I believe being born here doesn't necessarily mean you are a British citizen. We had this conversation a few weeks ago. An interesting one

This is pretty naive. There is I imagine in this country a pretty widely held belief that young black lads are disproportionately involved in violent knife crime. I doubt racists are going to ignore this incident now.

Genuine question - is he Welsh? because I don't know much about citizenship or the constitution but I would guess not.

I guess they don't speak Welsh either.

Not really sure what point you're making here. Guéhi is not an English name.

When people say a name is/isn't English/Welsh/Spanish/whatever I always assumed they're talking linguistically. Like 'Smith' is an English name, 'Gonzalez' Spanish, although they are the most common surnames in N and S America I believe.

As far as I'm aware all we know about this kid is that he has a Rwandan name. Nothing about religion or motivation.

Yeah what've you done with him?

I just realised I wrote "Kiki" and I'm going to leave it like that because I like it.

Yes I sometimes feel like ridiculing the EDL and 'gammons' act as a kind of pressure valve for people as it allows them to vent on the obviously shit state of British society in an acceptable way.

he's a strange guy

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With a Kiki commentator I'm just always distracted from the sport by the wacky vowel sounds.

Russians seem to be obsessed with us and believe the UK is behind every misfortune that has befallen their country, from the Bolshevik revolution to their present day struggles in Ukraine. At the same time in the UK, every time there is social unrest or any kind of slightly radical political movement (e.g. Brexit or Corbyn), lots of people here put it down to Russian interference and 'disinformation' peddled by St Petersburg based social media trolls. There is some truth to both but nowhere near the extent that some claim. And I think it's interesting how we've both become scapegoats in each other's country for our own societal ills that we obviously find difficult to truly come to terms with.

There's a book that needs to be written on the relationship between Britain and Russia in the 2020s. Two stumbling ex-Empires blaming each other for their own societal and political failings.

I know they refer to different things but 'Great Britain' is so much better than 'the UK'. I don't know exactly when or why the latter became the more popular term but it's a shame it did.